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Mine hates the 143 factory load. To the tune of 1.5-2moa while the 147s have settled in to around half moa. Primers are flat on both, 143 PH produces hard bolt lift occasionally and brass is much harder to rechamber than from the 147 match.
In speaking with my smith who has built many he has seen a lot of good results from 4831sc.
He also suggested his best accuracy was often 20-30 thousand off with the eld bullets. My first reloads are almost finished and will be rl26 under a 147 20 thousand off. Hope that was useful in some way.
What reamer was used? There is the original 130 (?) free bore, then the 180 freebore came out to accommodate the factory ammo, to load them to a COAL of 2.95 (I can't remember what the Ogive measurement is).
This is helpful information, thank you. Seems like a far jump. Anything to do with fitting in magazine or 100% for use of accuracy? I could care less about fitting in magazine. I ordered 147's and when I get the chance will load up and report.
Typical short action magazines restrictions being what they are and if in fact Hornady’s factory ammo offerings, specifically the 147 ELD-M load, shoot better when seated near or in the lands, why did Hornady finalize the SAAMI chamber with the longer .188 throat?
Based on their response, this appears to be common to rifles with positive plunger ejection. My only other bolt action rifle is a Winchester Model 70 SG in 7mm-08 and I certainly don't see a scratch like this on my fired 7mm-08 brass. But since the GAP Crusader uses the Templar action which I'm pretty sure is based on a Remington action, comparing the two rifles would be like comparing apples to oranges as the saying goes.The scratch on brass is from Ejection, the ejector pushes the casing to the right and it drags the shoulder and neck against the inside of the receiver till it meets the ejection port and flings out of the rifle. It’s normal and every rifle with positive plunger ejection does it and not a big deal it effects nothing in any way.
RL-26 is the king of 6.5 PRC.. I use RL-33 in my 338 AII'm waiting for PVA to start work on my barrel so no actual experience.
I'm wondering if Reloder 33 might not be a good choice for heavy bullets.
Has anyone tried RL-33?
Now if they would get enough made to satisfy the current market demand. I have not seen any but a couple 1# cans either locally or online since January. Let alone H1000, or Retumbo. About to try RL25 or RL23.RL-26 is the king of 6.5 PRC.. I use RL-33 in my 338 AI
Now if they would get enough made to satisfy the current market demand. I have not seen any but a couple 1# cans either locally or online since January. Let alone H1000, or Retumbo. About to try RL25 or RL23.
Hell, even Factory ammo appears to have been a limited run...along with Hornady Brass.
Almost starting to regret getting in on this one....almost.
Powder Valley RL26 1# jars, back in stock!
I have a question if that's OK.
I notice that every fired round (only 20 so far) out of my new GAP Crusader in 6.5 PRC has a distinct scratch on the shoulder that starts just below the neck and extends a little ways down the side of the case. It's not very deep - it's mostly cosmetic - but it takes quite a bit of rubbing with 0000 steel wool to remove it. It doesn't happen when I eject an unfired cartridge. I only see it on ejection after firing. I've attached a photo so people can see what I'm talking about. My first thought was maybe there's a tiny burr in the chamber. But I sent the photo to the folks at GAP and asked about it and was told the following:
Based on their response, this appears to be common to rifles with positive plunger ejection. My only other bolt action rifle is a Winchester Model 70 SG in 7mm-08 and I certainly don't see a scratch like this on my fired 7mm-08 brass. But since the GAP Crusader uses the Templar action which I'm pretty sure is based on a Remington action, comparing the two rifles would be like comparing apples to oranges as the saying goes.
Anyway, I was hoping to get some feedback from some of the more experienced shooters here just to be sure this is normal.
Thanks for the help.
What did you end up at with the hybrids and 4831 ??? I’ve been playing with H1K and 140 hybrids, I’m not impressed and may switch to 4831 . In my 284 H4831 gave best accuracy but H1000 gave me the velocity.Yea man I hear ya on h1000, I was dead set on it since I have alot, and really liked it in my 338L. If I don't stop jacking around with load development I will be able to give you a round count on this barrel soon. Lol! I am working with some 140 hybrids and 4831sc right now that I am VERY impressed with!
Stats - Average | 2926.09 |
Stats - Highest | 2939.11 |
Stats - Lowest | 2910.19 |
Stats - Ext. Spread | 28.92 |
Stats - Std. Dev | 9.15 |
Shot ID | V0 |
1 | 2914 |
2 | 2929 |
3 | 2935 |
4 | 2933 |
5 | 2926 |
6 | 2928 |
7 | 2919 |
8 | 2910 |
9 | 2929 |
10 | 2939 |
Stats - Average | 2959.1 |
Stats - Highest | 2970.28 |
Stats - Lowest | 2950.73 |
Stats - Ext. Spread | 19.55 |
Stats - Std. Dev | 5.76 |
Shot ID | V0 |
1 | 2957 |
2 | 2952 |
3 | 2951 |
4 | 2958 |
5 | 2970 |
6 | 2960 |
7 | 2958 |
8 | 2958 |
9 | 2962 |
10 | 2965 |
Stats - Average | 2979.17 |
Stats - Highest | 2988.69 |
Stats - Lowest | 2971.88 |
Stats - Ext. Spread | 16.81 |
Stats - Std. Dev | 5.52 |
Shot ID | V0 |
1 | 2974 |
2 | 2989 |
3 | 2982 |
4 | 2980 |
5 | 2973 |
6 | 2985 |
7 | 2981 |
8 | 2972 |
9 | 2975 |
10 | 2981 |
Stats - Average | 2987.93 |
Stats - Highest | 2992.12 |
Stats - Lowest | 2982.38 |
Stats - Ext. Spread | 9.74 |
Stats - Std. Dev | 4.19 |
Shot ID | V0 |
1 | 2992 |
2 | 2985 |
3 | 2990 |
4 | 2982 |
5 | 2990 |