I think you'll be better off finding a black one and painting, VS waiting a year for one from AI!
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Accuracy International AT-X
- Thread starter Peter Laurvick
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This right here. They aren’t hard to take apart and put back together. Just take pics along the way. AI would probably scold you for doing it but not hard. I had my AXSR stock cerakoted to match my ATX.
Shit I’ll keep my old crusty ass ATX. Like a cast iron skillet, nothing makes up for time and use. Might increase the value on these sumbitches!
Assuming that’s the base model? Without bridge/hinge and weights?
I’m assuming Mil/LE model will be a decent amount more?
May have to wait until after SHOT for final pricing on each specific variation. That's ballpark that was given to my guys at SHOT.
But, details still being released/finalized.
But, details still being released/finalized.
Guys,
The US version is not like any of the UK models shown above. Those were released on the AIUK site. It is closest to the comp/pro model. The US model is to be 6crd or 6.5 crd only (26 and 24" respectively, threaded and capped), and at the $6500ish price will INCLUDE the top bridge, rail and hinge. Hopefully after shot show we will have the actual part #s and be able to take backorders. 4 color options red/blk/sage green/dark earth
The pics of the dark earth above are the closest to production rifle
First deliveries of the ATXC are to be april.
The US version is not like any of the UK models shown above. Those were released on the AIUK site. It is closest to the comp/pro model. The US model is to be 6crd or 6.5 crd only (26 and 24" respectively, threaded and capped), and at the $6500ish price will INCLUDE the top bridge, rail and hinge. Hopefully after shot show we will have the actual part #s and be able to take backorders. 4 color options red/blk/sage green/dark earth
The pics of the dark earth above are the closest to production rifle
First deliveries of the ATXC are to be april.
Do we know for a fact if production is discontinued on the AT and AX 308 models? Or will AXSA still be available?
Asking because here it states the mil/LE model will replace the AT and AX 308. Will that be the only low end option for a factory 308? Since the model you state above is only 6/6.5 for US
Also will the Mil/LE model be available in US? Or to civilians in general
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That's pretty sweet. So $1250ish more than the 2023 MAP of the ATX (probably would have been a price increase if it carried over) but you get over $600 worth of parts included with the hinge, rail, and bridge and a totally redesigned and upgraded action AND best of all you don't have to try to source a hinge that's been a unicorn.
I don’t think the AX308 has been available to civilians for a while now. Unless it was new old stock.
$6500 for the least expensive AI...
AI is crushing dreams here... I was thinking I was on my way to not being poor, but AI confirms that I am still poor.
AI is crushing dreams here... I was thinking I was on my way to not being poor, but AI confirms that I am still poor.
Im glad i got my gen 3 when i did and on sale. Now it was like having a coupon for 2k off. Lol
Mile high still has blue and red in stock at the 4200 sale price.
If you want an AI on the cheap get your checkbook ready, you’ll see some ATX’s being dumped for cheap over the next 6 months. I wouldn’t even be surprised to see them close to the $3K mark.
I think the AXSR style action is cool and definitely the direction they should move. But having just snagged a black gen 3 6 creed for $3999, Im not motivated to dump mine for this newest gen. These “old” actions feel like butter after some break in so I can’t imagine this new style being light years better. The Mil version does look cool though with the color-matched action.
I wonder if the AT-X MIL has the lightening cuts on the receiver the same as the AT-XC? I don't see from the pictures on AI's website the MIL version opposite the bolt...
Yeah mine as well, also wondering if the MIL is bonded. In the Comp/Pro model they go out of their way to say:
However this is missing on the MIL version. Now, I called AINA last year asking about bonding the action into the chassis and they said "no".
They explained it was not needed, nor was there room (allowance for the bonding agent). So, I wonder about the MIL version, since all the other MIL version are bonded I think? Not sure about the brand new ones, but I think they still are?
Finally, I have heard from people that the AXSA can be easily made very compact, where the AT-X can't. So for some people that is very important, but if they get rid of the AXSA and replace it with the MIL version of the AT-X I wonder if they plan to address easily removing handguard parts to make the rifle be able to pack small?
Doesn't appear to me that AI is even hinting at 223 or mag bolts.
Can y’all find out what the holdup
Is getting parts for existing rifles? Would love a complete bolt for a AT with SFP and replacement LFP themselves and they seem to be unobo
I left the AI booth @ SHOT and they mentioned the new Gen 4 will use a new receiver/bolt that WONT interchange w previous models.
Will prefit barrels still headspace the same?
I am guessing the answer is "YES", but we won't know until someone asks directly, or else they chime in here. Though the bolt and receiver are different, I expect the tennon dimensions are likely the same for the barrels - but who knows if they decided to change that as well at the same time...
Somebody should probably also ask about the new actions bedding block/surfaces.
the AXMC and axsr are the same so I would bet the AT and new short action are backwards compatible
I think one thing they posted in the AT-XC thread is the new action uses 6 bolts instead of 4 in the AT-X.
If you look close in the picture, you'll see that the "new" action is bolted into an AT-X chassis.
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That’s the quickloc screw…that does not hold the action to the chassis
So who’s actually gonna drop the coin on this “new” ATXC once it hits? think I saw street price around $6500? Big jump and trying to see where the extra $ really goes
Hell no. They got me the first time. Not again.
It's 100% confirmed from AI that it's 6 bolts instead of the current 4. Regardless of what is written on the side of a chassis in a pic.
Nobody round here has an axsr to play with, personal or retail! My friends ain't that rich!
Someone needs to get ahold of one and give it a few dry fires.
Personally I don’t care about the bolt lift on mine. Yeah it’s a bit heavier than my AT. Its the OG in the 12lbsboltliftgang
But it doesn’t sit right that they take only that rifle to shot without a firing pin in it. For some reason that bothers me and makes me think the “improved” action isn’t anything to brag about
And let’s be honest. The $6500 model comes with what most of us add anyways. Only you can pick up a Gen 1-3 with those accessories for south of $4k in the px
I’m not saying they’re trying to deceive a customer. It is however ironic that they would know this action change will have some people interested. But the fact that they won’t have legit reports on how it operates until they have a backlog of pre orders irritates me
We should be discussing this gun in full now that it’s at shot. But we still aren’t
Ray from X ring spent about 6 seconds on his video as he walked by the AI booth showing the new rifle. All the others like DD and holosun he interviewed and spent some time at. You’d think this show would be the chance to say “hey we listened” and let some gun guys handle the new model and brag it up
We all know what the other upgrades look like. The action is where I want to know what I’m getting for an extra 2 grand
Personally I don’t care about the bolt lift on mine. Yeah it’s a bit heavier than my AT. Its the OG in the 12lbsboltliftgang
But it doesn’t sit right that they take only that rifle to shot without a firing pin in it. For some reason that bothers me and makes me think the “improved” action isn’t anything to brag about
And let’s be honest. The $6500 model comes with what most of us add anyways. Only you can pick up a Gen 1-3 with those accessories for south of $4k in the px
I’m not saying they’re trying to deceive a customer. It is however ironic that they would know this action change will have some people interested. But the fact that they won’t have legit reports on how it operates until they have a backlog of pre orders irritates me
We should be discussing this gun in full now that it’s at shot. But we still aren’t
Ray from X ring spent about 6 seconds on his video as he walked by the AI booth showing the new rifle. All the others like DD and holosun he interviewed and spent some time at. You’d think this show would be the chance to say “hey we listened” and let some gun guys handle the new model and brag it up
We all know what the other upgrades look like. The action is where I want to know what I’m getting for an extra 2 grand
Wait a year or two for the gen improvements to be released. The shit show ATX shouldn’t be forgotten. People paying full price just to watch new gens being pumped out for a discount. Completely ridiculous
My point was that it's bolted into an AT-X chassis. It says AT-X on the magwell, not AT-XC
I'm very happy with my AT-X. The new version raises the price $1250 dollars but includes a hinge and bridge that combined, cost $520 dollars. Despite AI's faults and missteps, I really like their rifles. But at $6500 dollars, the value is hard to see. I think I will dynamically spend my money on something else.
For the $6500 I could be into a completely new rifle with some Alpha glass and possibly enough money left over for a steak dinner and a beer
I like my AT-X. That being said, I shot one of my FN SPRs yesterday. For $1,400 - 1,700 new (non-A3G) plus a $850 rebarrel (all in). It was and is still one of the best values to ever hit the market.
It's not as smooth as my AI, and the McMillan stocks aren't as adjustable. However, it isn't giving up anything in accuracy, reliability and pure shooting enjoyment.
When I eventually get another rifle, I'll certainly be starting with a base action and assembling it myself. Like you said, you can put an entire rifle together yourself with pretty premium parts for $3,500 - $4K...and have enough left over for a good optic to throw on top.
I still regret not snagging a FN when TacCord blew them out
Maybe one day.
I’ll never sell the AT but for my next toy, I’m gonna get a local guy to spin me up a impact action and drop it into a chassis and rock on with another Steiner and have plenty of money left over for ammo
After having been to SHOT, IIRC the bolts are required to be removed from a safety standpoint. Some vendors get away with complete removing the firing pin - or use a modified firing pin that can't protrude into the headpace to set off a primer. I am guessing they wanted people to be able to handle the new version without having to one of the above to make it inoperable.
Also, I found this for the guy asking about the AXSA
Im getting confused between the two threads talking about the same stuff....
Im getting confused between the two threads talking about the same stuff....
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We’ve all seen the part you underlined in red. We’re trying to figure out if theres an AI cheaper than the $6500 ATX available after all of this.
It’s clear the AT won’t be. 308 AX won’t be. So assuming unless mil/le you’re limited to a $6500
ATX?
What is the alternative? If you had to pick an alternative FACTORY rifle that would perform similarly or better to the AT-X / AT-XC what would you pick then? MRAD? FN? I am familiar with Desert Tech, but looking for apples to apples - it should have a quick change barrel system and be a rugged rifle...
That's the impression I'm getting. If you want an AI as civilian, it's either ATXC or AXSR.
As .mil/LE, I'm less clear. There's the ATXMil.......but traditionally, other models have been available (AXMC-LE for example).
I am thinking your correct, no low cost option anymore...
