Accuracy International Picture Thread

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FUNCTIONAL said:
Bunch of guys at the 1000yrd deck had arken a few weeks ago. Kept telling me how great they were until they couldn't see their misses, hits or track right. Had to break out my spotter to tell them how much they were sucking.
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I compared my EP5, ZCO 527 and NF ATACR 735 in low light. I still own all three

When the knobs on a grill at 550 yards became hard to see with the NF the ZCO 527 could still see them

The Arken could barely make out the house it was sitting next to

They are not the same. I know it’s hurts peoples feeling but they’re not

If you shoot on a range only at 10 am. Yes they’re very close so buy the Arken
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ZCO527 vs NF ATACR 7-35 vs Arken EP5- (Last Light Comparison)

First, Im not an optics snob. Reliability is my #1 concern. But I have wondered what my 527, 735 and EP5 would look like against each other at last light. Both the 735 and 527 have been used for the same application. Even though it’s mounted on a Vudoo here Primary use for my high end optics is...
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hafejd30 said:
I compared my EP5, ZCO 527 and NF ATACR 735 in low light. I still own all three

When the knobs on a grill at 550 yards became hard to see with the NF the ZCO 527 could still see them

The Arken could barely make out the house it was sitting next to

They are not the same. I know it’s hurts peoples feeling but they’re not

If you shoot on a range only at 10 am. Yes they’re very close so buy the Arken
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ZCO527 vs NF ATACR 7-35 vs Arken EP5- (Last Light Comparison)

First, Im not an optics snob. Reliability is my #1 concern. But I have wondered what my 527, 735 and EP5 would look like against each other at last light. Both the 735 and 527 have been used for the same application. Even though it’s mounted on a Vudoo here Primary use for my high end optics is...
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22 day matches I could see them having a place but there is a better option for just about every scenario I could think of. What I try to tell people is the amount of ammo and time you will waste with a budget optic could have been saved and spent on a better optic. Usually it's in one ear and out the other.

Same guys on the deck ribbed me a bit thinking I wouldn't be able to see the 10" plate at 1k because my scope maxed out at 12x. It's a s&b 3-12x50 pmii. Walked my 308 from 300-1000, went 3/5 on the 1moa plate (switchy winds) and Walked right back in. Packed up and left, all after spotting for them for 45 minutes because none of then could see shit. People need to understand glass quality over power and the just don't.
 
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xxflyingturtlexx said:
I ordered an atacr coming in tomorrow. I always end up with a nf should have known better😂
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A NF optic is like a Glock. You know it will always work and you can trust your life with it, but you’ll be looked down on by snobs because it isn’t cool anymore.

I’ll die on this hill… the toolless zero feature on the TT should be on EVERY high end optic out there. I just love it so much hahaha
 
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@HD1911 @FUNCTIONAL @xxflyingturtlexx @M8541Reaper

Okay I’ll play TT fan boy. I have owned TT 525P, NF ATACR 7-35 & 4-16, S&B PMII 5-25, Minox ZP5 5-25, Vortex AMG and Razors, Steiner T5xi, Leupold MK6, and Kahles 525. I have not owned a Leupy MK5, Henny, nor ZCO, but have looked through and shot through enough to make a fair call on them.

I would honestly only consider TT, ZCO, Minox, S&B, and NF “top tier”.

Minox ZP5 reticle is awesome, pretty much set it and forget it parallax, and glass is in line with TT and ZCO. Cost is great, but you have to live with that a warranty issue will take a while to resolve or you have an expensive brick. Turrets are okay, not great.

ZCO I can’t get past the turrets, reticles, or parallax. The image is massive and a pleasure to look through, but it’s not enough to edge out over other options.

S&B and NF are not the best at any one thing, nor does anything really stand out as excellent / great, but is good at everything. Just all around solid scopes

TT parallax and turrets are second to none. Image is top tier, if not the best. The reticle Gen2XR and Gen3XR took a while to get used to, its not as intuitive as other reticles, but once figured out worked really well.

I sold my first TT for a Atacr 7-35 and I would have no problem going back to an ATACR 7-35 MIL-XT if I had to, but I am plenty happy with the TT.
 
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blbennett1288 said:
@HD1911 @FUNCTIONAL @xxflyingturtlexx @M8541Reaper

Okay I’ll play TT fan boy. I have owned TT 525P, NF ATACR 7-35 & 4-16, S&B PMII 5-25, Minox ZP5 5-25, Vortex AMG and Razors, Steiner T5xi, Leupold MK6, and Kahles 525. I have not owned a Leupy MK5, Henny, nor ZCO, but have looked through and shot through enough to make a fair call on them.

I would honestly only consider TT, ZCO, Minox, S&B, and NF “top tier”.

Minox ZP5 reticle is awesome, pretty much set it and forget it parallax, and glass is in line with TT and ZCO. Cost is great, but you have to live with that a warranty issue will take a while to resolve or you have an expensive brick. Turrets are okay, not great.

ZCO I can’t get past the turrets, reticles, or parallax. The image is massive and a pleasure to look through, but it’s not enough to edge out over other options.

S&B and NF are not the best at any one thing, nor does anything really stand out as excellent / great, but is good at everything. Just all around solid scopes

TT parallax and turrets are second to none. Image is top tier, if not the best. The reticle Gen2XR and Gen3XR took a while to get used to, its not as intuitive as other reticles, but once figured out worked really well.

I sold my first TT for a Atacr 7-35 and I would have no problem going back to an ATACR 7-35 MIL-XT if I had to, but I am plenty happy with the TT.
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I was hesitant about the Gen3XR Fine reticle but after using it in an ELR and PRS match, it’s kind of grown on me. I think the toolless zero feature is enough to get me to keep it moving forward.

Then again…another Arken video popped up randomly in my feed so maybe I should just sell it and buy 15 Arken scopes.
 
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Any of the AXSR owners here ever compile an actual list of the hardware specs on the complete rifle?

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blbennett1288 said:
@HD1911 @FUNCTIONAL @xxflyingturtlexx @M8541Reaper

Okay I’ll play TT fan boy. I have owned TT 525P, NF ATACR 7-35 & 4-16, S&B PMII 5-25, Minox ZP5 5-25, Vortex AMG and Razors, Steiner T5xi, Leupold MK6, and Kahles 525. I have not owned a Leupy MK5, Henny, nor ZCO, but have looked through and shot through enough to make a fair call on them.

I would honestly only consider TT, ZCO, Minox, S&B, and NF “top tier”.

Minox ZP5 reticle is awesome, pretty much set it and forget it parallax, and glass is in line with TT and ZCO. Cost is great, but you have to live with that a warranty issue will take a while to resolve or you have an expensive brick. Turrets are okay, not great.

ZCO I can’t get past the turrets, reticles, or parallax. The image is massive and a pleasure to look through, but it’s not enough to edge out over other options.

S&B and NF are not the best at any one thing, nor does anything really stand out as excellent / great, but is good at everything. Just all around solid scopes

TT parallax and turrets are second to none. Image is top tier, if not the best. The reticle Gen2XR and Gen3XR took a while to get used to, its not as intuitive as other reticles, but once figured out worked really well.

I sold my first TT for a Atacr 7-35 and I would have no problem going back to an ATACR 7-35 MIL-XT if I had to, but I am plenty happy with the TT.
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Gen 2xr is actually one of my top preferred reticles. I need something between the Gen2xr and Tremor3 to have a perfect reticle. I like how the gen2xr is less busy but I do like a lot of the features of the T3. If the T3 had a lot of the fluff thats not needed pulled from it, make the wind dots smaller, add a little on the top horizontal for hold unders and it would be perfect.

Other than that I agree with your overall assessment. The glass on the ZCO and TT are more clear but it was the edges that screwed with my head. Had I had either for a longer time I probably would have learned to like it but I also didnt feel they offered enough to abandon my S&Bs and ATACRs.

I owned a Premier 3-15 and like an idiot sold it. That was easily my second favorite scope I've ever owned. Turrets, zeroing, parallax were all perfect with exceptional glass. My 3-12x50 PMii is my gold standard when it comes to glass and parallax forgiveness. Nothing has topped it for me in those 2 categories.
 
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blbennett1288 said:
@HD1911 @FUNCTIONAL @xxflyingturtlexx @M8541Reaper

Okay I’ll play TT fan boy. I have owned TT 525P, NF ATACR 7-35 & 4-16, S&B PMII 5-25, Minox ZP5 5-25, Vortex AMG and Razors, Steiner T5xi, Leupold MK6, and Kahles 525. I have not owned a Leupy MK5, Henny, nor ZCO, but have looked through and shot through enough to make a fair call on them.

I would honestly only consider TT, ZCO, Minox, S&B, and NF “top tier”.

Minox ZP5 reticle is awesome, pretty much set it and forget it parallax, and glass is in line with TT and ZCO. Cost is great, but you have to live with that a warranty issue will take a while to resolve or you have an expensive brick. Turrets are okay, not great.

ZCO I can’t get past the turrets, reticles, or parallax. The image is massive and a pleasure to look through, but it’s not enough to edge out over other options.

S&B and NF are not the best at any one thing, nor does anything really stand out as excellent / great, but is good at everything. Just all around solid scopes

TT parallax and turrets are second to none. Image is top tier, if not the best. The reticle Gen2XR and Gen3XR took a while to get used to, its not as intuitive as other reticles, but once figured out worked really well.

I sold my first TT for a Atacr 7-35 and I would have no problem going back to an ATACR 7-35 MIL-XT if I had to, but I am plenty happy with the TT.
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It took 15 shots with a 5-27 ZCO for me, nope! You are pretty spot on
 
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M8541Reaper said:
A NF optic is like a Glock. You know it will always work and you can trust your life with it, but you’ll be looked down on by snobs because it isn’t cool anymore.

I’ll die on this hill… the toolless zero feature on the TT should be on EVERY high end optic out there. I just love it so much hahaha
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Hey, I have been carrying a glock since 2003. I can own pretty much any pistol I want, but default setting is pretty kosher :D
 
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M8541Reaper said:
Any of the AXSR owners here ever compile an actual list of the hardware specs on the complete rifle?

Pic tax as it’s almost match time:
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Is that the SKB case cut for an AX from EuroOptic or is that a #TacClassHeroSpecial?
 
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xxflyingturtlexx said:
Hey, I have been carrying a glock since 2003. I can own pretty much any pistol I want, but default setting is pretty kosher :D
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My main go to since 2006 has been my Gen3 G17. Might be getting a staccato P as an end of season gift in October. All the cool kids here have em so I obvi wanna be cool too…plus they’re tired of me outshooting them with my 17 😂

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Is that the SKB case cut for an AX from EuroOptic or is that a #TacClassHeroSpecial?
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Sir…that is absolutely a #TacClassHeroSpecial hahaha
 
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It’s judgement free because nobody has posted a pic of an arken yet

As for case, I’m just using the eberlestock scabbard. I kinda want a cool custom cut foam one but getting on a plane these days is a death wish so I don’t guess I need a hard case
 
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taliv said:
Hey what do you guys use for height over bore on an AXSR?
(Ie height from center of bore to top of pic rail? Plus the 1.53” mount)
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Wut? No you fold the stock to the side get out your measuring stick and measure from the center of your scope occular to the firing pin cocking indicator
 
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diggler1833 said:
Post a photo of your rig wearing an Arken and then say that... :D
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Can you put the link up for the source of the Bipod, please? I'm wondering if that will work on an AI-AT... Here you go: https://www.eliteiron.com/product/revolution-bipod-standard-steel-model/ I’d check out the Long Range Accuracy bipod that EuroOptic carries as well
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its_sean said:
I put an mlok attachment for a QD sling and didn’t realize for the last couple days it was pushing my barrel to the side. 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️

Shouldn’t affect it right? Just rezero maybe. I’m sad lol barrel has scars now
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You realize that is the exact reason they come with keyslot
 
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its_sean said:
I suppose the handgard moved not the barrel so probably not a big deal. The barrel contour gives less clearance there so I’ll have to be more careful. 🥲
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You didn’t damage it if that’s what you’re worried about

This is exactly the argument made for the keyslot “penis” system.

Not only is the keyslot much stronger due to the design. But the screws sit flush with the inside of the forend

What you did is minimal. Having rails on there and removing/installing barrels with screws sticking could damage tenon threads or very least scratch the barrel. It also limits your barrel profile size as it takes up room inside the forend vs keyslot

Keyslot for the win. Other than rails and maybe a QD sling mount I can’t think of a lot more you’d really need to attach.

People mention cheaper accessories and I mean yeah the rails are expensive but if $80-$90 is holding you back from getting one for your $10,000 AI then you probably went down the wrong road to begin with
 
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hafejd30 said:
You didn’t damage it if that’s what you’re worried about

This is exactly the argument made for the keyslot “penis” system.

Not only is the keyslot much stronger due to the design. But the screws sit flush with the inside of the forend

What you did is minimal. Having rails on there and removing/installing barrels with screws sticking could damage tenon threads or very least scratch the barrel. It also limits your barrel profile size as it takes up room inside the forend vs keyslot

Keyslot for the win. Other than rails and maybe a QD sling mount I can’t think of a lot more you’d really need to attach.

People mention cheaper accessories and I mean yeah the rails are expensive but if $80-$90 is holding you back from getting one for your $10,000 AI then you probably went down the wrong road to begin with
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Yeah it all makes sense to me now. I just wanted a longer forend rail with integrated arca for my axsa so i grabbed the first one and it happened to be the mlok model. Wasn’t a money thing more of availability.

Only things I’m attaching are 2 round quiver (which doesn’t seem to touch the barrel even by the widest contour), weights, and a QD attachment.
 
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stanley_white said:
I have filed down many an MLOK screw to avoid touching a barrel.

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Right filing down is the best way. I had to file my screws down for my lmt mws I’m working on now. But that can’t change the barrel with mlok accessories on it

The mlok vs quad lmt reminds me of the mlok vs keyslot argument

The thickest part of the barrel has to pass the forend accessories on an AI like the lmt. Which if you have rails in every side can limit the barrel profiles.

I know guys here have tested straight 1.25 barrels on ATX and AX or 1.35 taper to 1.25 or whatever the AXMC/AXSR are and had issues with the forend making contact while firing.

Maybe I’m wrong but it seems mlok would be a tight squeeze if you wanted to run comp profiles
 
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Ammo testing with 20" and 24" Lothar Walther 1:12 Twist barrels AT308s. They seem to like Federal Gold Medal match 175gr, and Norma Golden Target 175gr. The 24" barrel really likes Hornady Black A-Max 168gr but, I'm still testing to see how true this is. I still can't get either AT308 to shoot real well with Hornady TAP ELD Precision 168gr, but the tan AT is getting 0.8MOA from it, while I need to do more testing to know what the green AT can do.

I've removed and reinstalled both barrels, and torqued to 49 inch/lbs with Fixit Stick dedicated torque limiter. Tan rifle was 2 click, Green rifle 3 click to slightly over-torque. I'm still trying to find one round for both that 1) groups 0.6 MOA or better (10 round) and 2) gets me to 1000 yards effectively, 900 yards consistent. At this point, I'm completely open to factory ammo suggestions that both barrels would like. I'm considering a heavier ELD round, going with Hornady Precision Hunter ELD-x 178gr. If anyone has experience with this ammo from the Walther barrels, can you tell me about it?
 
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HKSniper11B said:
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Ammo testing with 20" and 24" Lothar Walther 1:12 Twist barrels AT308s. They seem to like Federal Gold Medal match 175gr, and Norma Golden Target 175gr. The 24" barrel really likes Hornady Black A-Max 168gr but, I'm still testing to see how true this is. I still can't get either AT308 to shoot real well with Hornady TAP ELD Precision 168gr, but the tan AT is getting 0.8MOA from it, while I need to do more testing to know what the green AT can do.

I've removed and reinstalled both barrels, and torqued to 49 inch/lbs with Fixit Stick dedicated torque limiter. Tan rifle was 2 click, Green rifle 3 click to slightly over-torque. I'm still trying to find one round for both that 1) groups 0.6 MOA or better (10 round) and 2) gets me to 1000 yards effectively, 900 yards consistent. At this point, I'm completely open to factory ammo suggestions that both barrels would like. I'm considering a heavier ELD round, going with Hornady Precision Hunter ELD-x 178gr. If anyone has experience with this ammo from the Walther barrels, can you tell me about it?
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No big offense to you, but are you capable of .6" 10rd groups consistently? I'd pick the ammo that's shooting best right now that you can get a lot of and get plenty of trigger time before you list criteria like that.

As for torque, many of us found 55inlb was a more constant torque when swapping barrels. Once it's clamped in at 49 or 65 the accuracy won't change, it just effects the repeatable poi when swapping.
 
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