But you gotta have the right anodizing on your knob and hanger, the right knob style, the right bolt head.. Lots of options.
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So back to the order of product release. I went back and looked to see if it was actually said somewhere by ARC, but I don’t think it was.
I assumed it would be
1. RH SA
2. LH SA
3. RH LA
4. LH LA
But I don’t think that was actually confirmed. Or will it be both RH and then the LH after?
I assumed it would be
1. RH SA
2. LH SA
3. RH LA
4. LH LA
But I don’t think that was actually confirmed. Or will it be both RH and then the LH after?
My barrel just shipped from preferred barrel blanks yesterday. All I need is the action. Super excited!
The only reference to a swept bolt handle that I can remember is from Ted saying they made the handle straight so it could be modified by the end user if they wished.
Personal preference. with non-nuclear loads, the handle doesn't pivot.
I ran 75 rounds of 308 yesterday. Handle didn’t pivot once.
IMO the CDG pivot spring is a little stiffer than the Archimedes, not a bad thing.
Anyone planning on sweeping their handle themselves? I wouldn't think of it but it hits the stock on my magpul pro chassis and I would really like it to fold over the bolt handle
I may have my local smith do it. i love the AI look without the AI price and thinking of bending mine with the round knob
Never thought I would say this about another guys knob but that sure is purdy.
Ran the CDG in a PRS match today. Tac class 308, ran flawless, nut behind the trigger needs a little work.
The extended AW mag worked like a champ.
One stage required single feeding 10 rounds & that big ol port was easy to toss rounds into.
Pretty sure barrel sped up, but wont know till I get to range with magneto & the leftover rounds. Started at 2785 with 169smk’s 44.6 Varget .018 jump 26”PVA Osprey.
3rd out a 10 for Tac & mid pack overall. First PRS since 2021, I’m very pleased with the CDG. Archimedes is right there neck and neck with it. No plans to sell the Archimedes.
The only gripe & it’s not a big one is that it tends to eject brass forward in front of firing line. I may order a spare ejector blade from ARC & see if I can mod it to eject 3-4 o’clock.
The extended AW mag worked like a champ.
One stage required single feeding 10 rounds & that big ol port was easy to toss rounds into.
Pretty sure barrel sped up, but wont know till I get to range with magneto & the leftover rounds. Started at 2785 with 169smk’s 44.6 Varget .018 jump 26”PVA Osprey.
3rd out a 10 for Tac & mid pack overall. First PRS since 2021, I’m very pleased with the CDG. Archimedes is right there neck and neck with it. No plans to sell the Archimedes.
The only gripe & it’s not a big one is that it tends to eject brass forward in front of firing line. I may order a spare ejector blade from ARC & see if I can mod it to eject 3-4 o’clock.
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The stock AW does act as a bolt stop when empty.
I beveled it so I’d be able to single feed. Glad I did.
Well finally got the CDG torqued onto the barrel and the TT Diamond installed. I have to say, I love the action. This is my first ARC action and it is so unique compared to my deviants. The more I play with it the more I absolutely love it. I just need to get my chassis back from anodizing so I can get out and shoot. Thanks Ted for the killer action. I’ll be buying another soon
I have only fondled mine while wait for my trigger to arrive. I agree it takes more force to pivot the handle on the CDG. If you didn’t tell someone they might not even know it pivots.
One thing I don’t care for at this point is the cocking force is considerably more on the CDG than my Archimedes. Like a lot more! The Archimedes takes much less effort to lift and is way smoother in doing so. I’m hoping installing the trigger will somehow even up the difference between the two.
@Rex_Allen I hope mine is the same when built. I don’t have a trigger installed yet, maybe that is the difference in force required? As for smoothness maybe that will come with lots of bolt cycling.
My buddy who also has one on order and owns a Nucleus thought the same thing. He was like damn, this bolt lift is heavy! That’s a pretty big statement as he runs the 23 pound striker spring in his Nuke.
My buddy who also has one on order and owns a Nucleus thought the same thing. He was like damn, this bolt lift is heavy! That’s a pretty big statement as he runs the 23 pound striker spring in his Nuke.
Mine seems a touch heavier than my Origins but a touch lighter than my Nuke with a 16lb spring.
That is encouraging as I love the bolt lift my Nukes with 16# springs, they seem very close to the Archimedes.
So glad I got my 16# Spring Nukes. Multiple barrels. Having a lot of fun. Don't much care about the CDG order anymore. Whenever it shows I'll figure something out. POW training...trust no dates and promises.
I thought the same thing at first. After adjusting the trigger hanger and actually having it in a chassis in position the bolt lift is pretty light.
Date was on the 8th and order finally went through I want to say 10:30 after you tickets kept crashing the servers lol.
SO-036939 order number
Mine is SO-036909 and all it says is preparation. Funny because my higher numbered one was already delivered so don’t think the actual number has anything to do with shipping timelines… they’re both carbon copies of one another so that’s not the delay.. oh well, I just have to get home to actually pick up the one I actually already received
I've come to peace with it all. gives me time for PVA to finish my barrel, and time for me to order my AT-X chassis from euro optic
I dont even bother looking up my order number or status. It’ll ship when it ships and I’m ok with that.
Compared to multiple kickstarters that I’ve backed this is nothing.
Compared to multiple kickstarters that I’ve backed this is nothing.
Nice to have a base line. I ordered on the 10 and am almost order number 800+ afterwards
So, had about 200 rounds sent downrange a few days ago. All is well so far however I have noticed the the rear trigger hanger screw (not the set screw) keeps working itself loose and makes the trigger wobble left to right. Put some Vibra Tite VC3 on the threads and ran another 100 rounds. Seems to have fixed it. This rifle is an absolute tack driver. Absolutely drills golf balls at 300 yards with factory ammo. No more scratches on the back of the casings. Must have been a sharp edge on the bolt face that worked itself out.
I shot 50 rounds the other day and thought I felt it once or twice while running it fast. Just cause it doesn’t do it doesn’t mean it has to each round.
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It will only pivot if the case is stuck in the chamber enough to overcome the spring pressure holding the handle in the forward position, or when you keep applying rearward pressure to the bolt handle with the bolt open and all the way back against the bolt stop.
Archimedes works the same way. Unless the case is stuck and needs the lever movement to assist in extraction, the bolt handle won't pivot.
I've got 4000ish rounds through my Archimedes and I don't think I've ever felt the bolt handle pivot when opening the bolt after firing-- because I've never had a tight case stuck in the chamber that needed the lever assist for extraction.
Oh ok. Like, whenever does that happen? Hot rodding a load to stuck case situation is fucking stupid.
Purposely hot rodding a load beyond max pressure is stupid? Don't tell the Sherman Improved guys about that.
I've had a couple stuck cases over the years, mostly in my early days of reloading when I was advised that "you only need to neck size most of the time, you might only have to FL size every 3rd or 4th reload." Tried that and ended up dealing with a couple of hard bolt closes and stuck cases. Messed up a stock R700 extractor or two trying to get the bolt back open and the case ejected at the range when I didn't have a cleaning rod with me to tap the case out.
There's always the dirty barrel to spike pressure, or a damp/wet case that can also cause pressure signs and a possible sticky case. Pivoting handle is sure nice to have for those situations but 95%+ of the time you'll never need it or feel it pivot. You're more likely to feel it pivot when running the bolt hard and hitting the bolt stop with gusto. If you feel it frequently pivoting on extraction that's a sign there are chamber/brass/load issues you need to address.
When I built my first Archimedes I purposely chambered an unsized piece of brass that was fired in another rifle with a larger chamber and had to firmly tap the bolt closed on it, just because I wanted to see how well the lever extraction worked. The bolt lift was very "draggy" but the lever popped it right back out of the chamber with minimal effort and no damage to the case rim.
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I shot a match this weekend and had my bolt pivot first time ever(archimedes). Running 115 dtacs at 2860 from a 28" 6gt, low psi load. Something was odd about this particular case, first time ever experienced. Who knows maybe it was a piece of someone else brass I unknowingly picked up last match and they have ran the piss out of it swelling web in an oversized chamber.
I don’t think the plan is to get cases stuck on purpose….
If you never get a stuck case - mint, you’ll never have to use the pivoting handle, or even notice it’s there. Better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
Absolutely incredible the difference once you get the trigger hanger adjusted properly... Make sure to watch the video as I stumbled thru and wasn't getting any benefit until I got the adjustment just right.
Easy, I shot a round that was fine in two other barrels but not in a incorrectly cut carbon six barrel. One finger extraction in a proof barrel but required me holding the stock to my chest and yanking the bolt back sending the case probably 20 ft away.
Any other action and I’d have had to beat the bolt open twice to get the case out.
