Re: DTA vs. Savage vs. AI vs. Sako
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mwroseberry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Just another example of gun snobs at work. Guys lets face it if you spend 1/2 as much on a savage you can make it just as accurate as an AI or a TRG (I know flame suit on). The simple fact is money is money. It just takes less of it on savage to get the same accuracy level. Once you do that to the savage any of those three rifles will be more accurate than you are capable of driving it. So the best advise I can give you is build yourself a custom savage rig, replace the accutrigger with something more reliable, spend money on good glass and then take the money you saved and go up to TVP and pay Tom Sarver to teach you how to drive what you have. Once this is all said and done I promise you will be more accurate than you would be if you spent 4k on an AI and had no training.
Just my $0.02....
Good luck,
Merritt </div></div>
So we're gun snobs because we want a battle proven purposefully built platform not a hunting rifle that's been accurized? Why don't you go ahead and keep fixing up that Honda Civic? It will make a great drag car.
Let me point out where your mistakes are.
First, this has never been a question of accuracy. In fact, the accuracy argument is not even worth having because AI only has a 1 MOA guarantee (BTW, accuracy guarantees are like flowers for a fat chick, they're only meant to make the recipient feel good). So if your Savage is "as accurate" as the others, good for you. Accuracy was <span style="text-decoration: underline">never</span> the question.
Next, you have to replace the Accu-trigger in the Savage. Great, the rifle is so durable, you have to take the piece of crap trigger and replace it. Whereas the AI has a great trigger and the TRG trigger is reputed to be one of the best. Even JRose admitted it was the sweetest trigger he's felt.
Next, where is the hi-cap drop down mag for the Savage? What is it going to cost to put a great stock, i.e. Manners, or buy the Savage with an Badger inletted stock? Sure, it comes with a McMillan stock but not the detachable bottom metal. OR, you could buy the 10 BA but then you're looking at a MSRP of $2100.
And although I agree that taking training is a good idea, I would also argue that good training with a top of the line rifle is going to beat good training with a decent rifle.
So I will ask you the same question. If you're going to war with the most <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="text-decoration: underline">DURABLE</span></span></span> rifle available, is Savage your first choice?
<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mwroseberry</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Just another example of gun snobs at work. Guys lets face it if you spend 1/2 as much on a savage you can make it just as accurate as an AI or a TRG (I know flame suit on). The simple fact is money is money. It just takes less of it on savage to get the same accuracy level. Once you do that to the savage any of those three rifles will be more accurate than you are capable of driving it. So the best advise I can give you is build yourself a custom savage rig, replace the accutrigger with something more reliable, spend money on good glass and then take the money you saved and go up to TVP and pay Tom Sarver to teach you how to drive what you have. Once this is all said and done I promise you will be more accurate than you would be if you spent 4k on an AI and had no training.
Just my $0.02....
Good luck,
Merritt </div></div>
So we're gun snobs because we want a battle proven purposefully built platform not a hunting rifle that's been accurized? Why don't you go ahead and keep fixing up that Honda Civic? It will make a great drag car.
Let me point out where your mistakes are.
First, this has never been a question of accuracy. In fact, the accuracy argument is not even worth having because AI only has a 1 MOA guarantee (BTW, accuracy guarantees are like flowers for a fat chick, they're only meant to make the recipient feel good). So if your Savage is "as accurate" as the others, good for you. Accuracy was <span style="text-decoration: underline">never</span> the question.
Next, you have to replace the Accu-trigger in the Savage. Great, the rifle is so durable, you have to take the piece of crap trigger and replace it. Whereas the AI has a great trigger and the TRG trigger is reputed to be one of the best. Even JRose admitted it was the sweetest trigger he's felt.
Next, where is the hi-cap drop down mag for the Savage? What is it going to cost to put a great stock, i.e. Manners, or buy the Savage with an Badger inletted stock? Sure, it comes with a McMillan stock but not the detachable bottom metal. OR, you could buy the 10 BA but then you're looking at a MSRP of $2100.
And although I agree that taking training is a good idea, I would also argue that good training with a top of the line rifle is going to beat good training with a decent rifle.
So I will ask you the same question. If you're going to war with the most <span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-style: italic"><span style="text-decoration: underline">DURABLE</span></span></span> rifle available, is Savage your first choice?
