Suppressors Form 4 wait time

[arnygollott3]

Silencerco Saker
Form 4 (trust)
Mailed 8/16/13
Check cashed 8/23/13
Pending
Approved 5/16/14
Stamp Received 5/22/14

2 x SBR
Form 1 (trust)
Mailed 9/4/13
Check cashed 9/10/13
Pending
Approved
Stamps Received 6/2/14

CGW 'X' .458 Socom Suppressor
Form 4 (trust)
Mailed 9/17/13
Check cashed 9/24/13
Pending
Approved
Stamp Received

SWR Spectre II
Form 4 (trust)
Mailed 9/23/13
Check cashed 10/1/13
Pending
Approved
Stamp Received

Templar Tactical Archangel .30
Form 4 (trust)
Mailed 11/29/13
Check cashed 12/5/13
Pending
Approved
Stamp Received

 

[Alpha2]

You know, there's been a lot of noise lately about the feds wanting to eliminate the "trust" route for NFA items, has it occurred to anyone else that maybe they're dragging their feet so they can shut it down?

I hope not, mine's been in the system for 9 months now.

 

[corey4]

shut down the NFA?

 

[1000yard]

1. NFA Item: Suppressor TBAC 30P-1
2. Form Type: Form 4
3. Transferee Type: Trust
4. Forms Sent: 06FEB2013
5. Check Cashed: 13FEB2013
6. Pending Date:
7. Approved Date: 22NOV2013
8. Forms Received:02DEC2013

Stamp in hand, almost 10 months
it wasn't too hard a wait, since I had a demo letter, and have been using it for a few months.

 

[hunter-steve]

sent 1/29/13
pending 3/12/13
approved 11/18/13
Still no word from Dealer

My last one that was approved Sept 20th did not arrive till October 19th

 

[waveslayer]

Dumb question, how are you able to check the status of your Form 4. I call my dealer and he just says, "no word"...

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

 

[donp326]

NFA Item: Suppressor

Form Type: Form 4

Transfer Type: Trust

Form 3 submitted for approval 12-03-2012

Form 3 Approval Texas Received and suppressor shipped: 01-09-2013

Suppressor received by Class 3 SOT in Kentucky: 01-15-2013

Form 4 Trust Sent: 1-22-2013

Cheque cashed: 02-15-2013

Pending: 03-26-2013

Approved: 11-21-2013

Received Stamp: 11-30-2013

12-01-2013 a little over 8 months from pending and now the YHM is attached to my AR, priceless.

 

[corey4]

Dumb question, how are you able to check the status of your Form 4. I call my dealer and he just says, "no word"...

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Tapatalk

call the NFA branch in WV: 304-616-4500

you need your serial number, your name or trust name, and who you bought it from.

 

[Lowlight]

Had my SF SOCOM 7.62 clear this week,

The paperwork was filled out on January 9th 2013... cleared November 25th... pitiful.

 

[glockaholic]

Same here. SBR on Trust, submitted Jan 2013, stamp in hand Nov 28, 2013. Very slow compared to previous items.

 

[bluto77]

I have heard that some Texas dealers are saying they're getting Form 4 approvals in ~4 months using the e-form system. The Form 3's that we've had done on eforms are taking 6 weeks.

 

[koz]

eForm.
Sent 8/30/13.
Approved today via email.
Don't know when I'll get the paperwork back.

 

[vinsonr]

eForm.
Sent 8/30/13.
Approved today via email.
Don't know when I'll get the paperwork back.

Holy shit! Time to eForm some SBR's.

 

[Conrad101st]

I think you have it. They should have given you a PDF of the stamped form 1 or 4 as applicable when they notified you of completion. They don't appear to actually mail a hard copy if you Efiled.

Maybe I'm wrong but that's what I garnered from the chatter.

 

[koz]

I think you have it. They should have given you a PDF of the stamped form 1 or 4 as applicable when they notified you of completion. They don't appear to actually mail a hard copy if you Efiled.

Maybe I'm wrong but that's what I garnered from the chatter.

Doubled checked the email, but no PDF attached. Just a permit/control number and some other info. If I don't see something in a few days, I'll give them a call.

Thanks!

 

[texas_vet00]

If anyone cares...

SBR
Form 1 (trust)
Mailed 2/18/13
Check cashed 2/26/13

Still scratchin' my ass waitin' on something to show up...

 

[Conrad101st]

I'm curious about the Efile now too. After its approved, maybe you go to the website and log in to your account and the attacment can be pulled?? Right now when I check in it shows the submitted form under "MY FORMS". Perhaps after completion, the form will automatically be changed to show the stamp when you hit view and pull it up on the screen.

Under "my forms" on the left side of the screen does it still say "submitted/in process" or "completed"?

Tap the blue status bar and then tap the listed form. After your row listing the application appears, can you tap a link under actions? I see an eyeball icon under actions. Then maybe hit "view" form near the top of the screen.

Anybody else know the techie side of this?

 

[Sendero_Man]

Tell me more about efile

 

[0724/1030]

Paperwork sent: 5 Nov 2012
Pending: 24 Jan 2013
Approved: 12 Aug 2013
Reissue request #1: 21 Oct
Reissue request #2: 18 Nov
Received: 27 Nov 2013 (actually stamp)

 

[farmerted]

Stamp in hand, almost 10 months
it wasn't to hard a wait, since I had a demo letter, and have been using it for a few months.

I know SOT's can get a demo letter for items like post 86 samples. Is this demo letter you obtained different?

 

[uracowman]

sent 1/29/13
pending 3/12/13
approved 11/18/13
Still no word from Dealer

My last one that was approved Sept 20th did not arrive till October 19th

I'm in the same boat you are. My latest can got approved on the 18th, but I haven't heard a thing from my dealer.

 

[1000yard]

I know SOT's can get a demo letter for items like post 86 samples. Is this demo letter you obtained different?

Demo letter from ,copy of license/SOT, for demo use by employee/agent of dealer, just a formality when using store stock/demos for possession by dealers employees/agents
same as for samples with Manufacturer reps.

 

[PatrickChewing]

Pending: 2/14/13
Stamps Received: 12/4/13

 

[koz]

I'm curious about the Efile now too. After its approved, maybe you go to the website and log in to your account and the attacment can be pulled?? Right now when I check in it shows the submitted form under "MY FORMS". Perhaps after completion, the form will automatically be changed to show the stamp when you hit view and pull it up on the screen.

Under "my forms" on the left side of the screen does it still say "submitted/in process" or "completed"?

Tap the blue status bar and then tap the listed form. After your row listing the application appears, can you tap a link under actions? I see an eyeball icon under actions. Then maybe hit "view" form near the top of the screen.

Anybody else know the techie side of this?

Ok some more info.

When you log in the eForm system, you'll see "My Forms". Under this I now have Submitted and Approved. If you click on Approved it shows Form 1. When you click on this, it gives a line of the approved forms. If you click on the line it will go to where it looks like when you first submitted the eform.

BUT - you can see the buttons that say SAVE, CANCEL, VIEW FORM, & GO HOME. If you click on View Form, then a button at the bottom where you can click for the PDF file. Click this and it opens Adobe and then you can print your Form with the stamp.

Hope this helps.

 

[Conrad101st]

Good to know. Thanks.

 

[Unsichtbar]

NFA Item: One each .223,.30, .338 Templar Tactical Firearms
Trust - Form 4
Forms Sent: Feb. 8 Received Feb 11
Check cashed: Feb. 25
Pending: April 8
Second Pending: July 25
Approved: December 5 2013

Supposedly being mailed, do I dare believe this this has reached conclusion? Not until I have them in my hand and 5 miles down the road.

 

[Conrad101st]

Suppressor
Form 4
Corporate purchase
Sent - February 18, 2013
Pending - April 9, 2013
Approved - December 5, 2013
Just waiting on the mailman now!!

 

[Charger442]

NFA Item: One each .223,.30, .338 Templar Tactical Firearms
Trust - Form 4
Forms Sent: Feb. 8 Received Feb 11
Check cashed: Feb. 25
Pending: April 8
Second Pending: July 25
Approved: December 5 2013

Supposedly being mailed, do I dare believe this this has reached conclusion? Not until I have them in my hand and 5 miles down the road.

interesting.

my ARk30 was
mailed Feb 5
check cashed Feb 12
pending March 21
second pending July 15
Approved: Not yet.

 

[Oleshep]

Same boat here. Pending 3-13-13 and still waiting.. WTF??

 

[glockaholic]

Don't forget... they had some days off when the govt shut down occurred.

 

[RHunter]

Santa arrived early!

Forms sent March 5th, 13
Stamps arrived December 9th, 13

New quicksand for my LR rifle and an AAC for my blackout waiting for some gas...

I called 2 weeks ago and they told me I would not see them until Feb, 14 but I was pleasantly surprised when the LGS called me today and told me to come get my crap out of their safe.

They also told me I have 6 months to file new forms on a trust before the forms will require a LEO signature due to a change in the BATFE policy...

Has anyone else heard anything about that?

 

[CWSShooter]

The "change" they are referring to is under review and tonight is the last night to make comments opposing the mandatory CLEO signature. Go to regulations.gov and post your comments now! It doesn't surprise me that they are saying that there is already a change coming.

 

[springer01]

NFA Item: One each .223,.30, .338 Templar Tactical Firearms
Trust - Form 4
Forms Sent: Feb. 8 Received Feb 11
Check cashed: Feb. 25
Pending: April 8
Second Pending: July 25
Approved: December 5 2013

Supposedly being mailed, do I dare believe this this has reached conclusion? Not until I have them in my hand and 5 miles down the road.
interesting.

interesting.

my ARk30 was
mailed Feb 5
check cashed Feb 12
pending March 21
second pending July 15
Approved: Not yet.

My 2 TTF cans went pending Feb 15 haven't heard a thing.

 

[karb]

My 2 TTF cans went pending Feb 15 haven't heard a thing.

Time to make a phone call bro.

 

[karb]

Santa arrived early!

Forms sent March 5th, 13
Stamps arrived December 9th, 13

New quicksand for my LR rifle and an AAC for my blackout waiting for some gas...

I called 2 weeks ago and they told me I would not see them until Feb, 14 but I was pleasantly surprised when the LGS called me today and told me to come get my crap out of their safe.

They also told me I have 6 months to file new forms on a trust before the forms will require a LEO signature due to a change in the BATFE policy...

Has anyone else heard anything about that?

Who exactly told you "6 months" ? Your dealer? This is the FIRST time I've heard
A solid number being spoken of from ANYWHERE in the NFA community about a
Supposed cut off date.

Please enlighten !

 

[RHunter]

Who exactly told you "6 months" ? Your dealer? This is the FIRST time I've heard
A solid number being spoken of from ANYWHERE in the NFA community about a
Supposed cut off date.

Please enlighten !

The dealer told me they talked to a deputy from the Sheriffs Office that deals with all the BATFE and the class 3 stuff, the info supposedly came from this deputy.

I thought it was a bit odd since the comments were still being taken on the BATFE website making me assume nothing had been decided, but on the other hand, considering all the crap coming out of Obama, I also get the feeling the comments are noting more than a ruse and those in the know- know something more than we do if they are telling gun dealers that trusts ad LLC's applications will only be good for the next 6 months and after that the LEO signature will be required and our Sheriff will not be signing anything...

I am only passing on info I was told, the reason for me asking the forum was to see if anyone else heard anything similar to see if there was any validity to these comments. As you know it is a little difficult to get the real story, especially when you call BTAFE and they tell you that you will have your stamps in February 2014 and they arrive not even 2 weeks later.

I personally feel the Trust and LLC route for owning NFA items will be shut off regardless of the comment effort. We can squeal all we want and there is not a damn thing we can do about it since it really has nothing to do with taking our guns away, it only limits the toys we have been able to get, short barrel rifles and shotguns, pre ban full autos, suppressors, etc... All the things the general public will not have a lot of sympathy over when us gun nuts loose the right to buy them.

I only hope, if this happens, we go get a grace period to buy our last rights before we are relegated to oil filters.

I tell you, all this crap from Obama is REALLY getting old, ALL OF IT. Whatever happened to our right to the pursuit of happiness?

 

[karb]

The dealer told me they talked to a deputy from the Sheriffs Office that deals with all the BATFE and the class 3 stuff, the info supposedly came from this deputy.

I thought it was a bit odd since the comments were still being taken on the BATFE website making me assume nothing had been decided, but on the other hand, considering all the crap coming out of Obama, I also get the feeling the comments are noting more than a ruse and those in the know- know something more than we do if they are telling gun dealers that trusts ad LLC's applications will only be good for the next 6 months and after that the LEO signature will be required and our Sheriff will not be signing anything...

I am only passing on info I was told, the reason for me asking the forum was to see if anyone else heard anything similar to see if their was any validity to these comments. As you know it is a little difficult to get the real story, especially when you call BTAFE and they tell you that you will have your stamps in February 2014 and they arrive not even 2 weeks later.

I personally feel the Trust and LLC route for owning NFA items will be shut off regardless of the comment effort. We can squeal all we want and there is not a damn thing we can do about it since it really has nothing to do with taking our guns away, it only limits the toys we have been able to get, short barrel rifles and shotguns, pre ban full autos, suppressors, etc... All the things the general public will not have a lot of sympathy over when us gun nuts loose the right to buy them.

I only hope, if this happens, we go get a grace period to buy our last rights before we are relegated to oil filters.

I tell you, all this crap from Obama is REALLY getting old, ALL OF IT. Whatever happened to our right to the pursuit of happiness?

Thanks for the reply.

 

[sunburned]

Paid for Gemtech Trek 10-15-2012
Arrived at dealer and Form 4 Trust sent in 3-8-2013
Pending 5-13-2013
Stamp to dealer today, 12-5-2013 postmark on the envelope, 12-03-2013 on the stamp
Albert Lamberger

 

[RHunter]

Albert Lamberger

Albert did mine also, he must be doing Florida. I was 3 days before you sending it in and received 2 stamps 3 days ago.

 

[gunshinestate]

Are there examiners for each state or are they assigned a region?
I ask because I am in Ga. Mine went pending May 6 of this year...and I was told to expect it in Feb of '14

 

[M.Sanchez]

Does anybody know who does NM? I have two stamps currently waiting...

 

[msrtex]

Time to make a phone call bro.

I have a pending date of Feb 28 and made a call last week. Was told January before I see it. Sucks when I see others pending in March and getting their stamps back already.

 

[corey4]

what i don't get is before the shutdown, you could gauge within 2 weeks of the reports on here of approved F4s from submission to approval. you had a pretty good idea of when you will be getting your form back.

now, it is all over the place. reports are ranging from january to march submissions coming in.

for once in my life i got lucky. i had my sparrow, door to door, in 8 months, feb 4 to oct 4.

i am 8 months one week in on my octane 9.

 

[Charger442]

interesting.

my ARk30 was
mailed Feb 5
check cashed Feb 12
pending March 21
second pending July 15
Approved: Not yet.

update:

my ARk30 was
mailed Feb 5
check cashed Feb 12
pending March 21
second pending July 15
Approved: December 2nd


those with TTF cans approved but no stamps in hand, picking up directly from TTF, have you talked to them yet about whether they have been seeing the stamps arrive?

 

[dvdt]

SF 556RC
mailed late Jan
Pending 20 Mar
Approved 25 Nov

SF 762RC
efile 31 Aug (Sat)
Approved 4 Dec

All on a trust.

 

[ShootsBlanks]

I have a pending date of Feb 28 and made a call last week. Was told January before I see it. Sucks when I see others pending in March and getting their stamps back already.

I believe ATF is managing expectations. If you are told December and don't get it, you make more calls. If you are told January and it arrives in December, you are happy and don't call.

 

[Pusher591]

AAC Cyclone & Surefire 556RC

Payment Sent: 10/30/2013
Checks Cashed: 11/05/2013
Pending: As of today not yet
Approved: Maybe one day

 

[Slug-O]

Surefire Mini
Bought and check sent 3/19
Check cashed 3/23
Pending 5/19
Approved 12/7 or a day or two..... I'm on vacation and I got the call to come get it....

 

[KillShot]

Surefire Mini
Bought and check sent 3/19
Check cashed 3/23
Pending 5/19
Approved 12/7 or a day or two..... I'm on vacation and I got the call to come get it....

That is GREAT news!

 

[msrtex]

I believe ATF is managing expectations. If you are told December and don't get it, you make more calls. If you are told January and it arrives in December, you are happy and don't call.

I agree but still sucks when I see others pending in March and getting their stamps back already.