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Good luck everybody after 18 months called congressman got some kind of answer”return without action” if you get Angela Edwards as examiner good luck 6 detailed messages no returned calls. They told me she is in the office and can explain what they need. I still got sent to her voicemail. Maybe since Walmart replaced the specials with robots. The must of landed at the ATF. Fuuuuhhk
Better then pending another 6 months.
Better then pending another 6 months.
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I’m so drained with this bullshit! Every time I read this thread I’m brought down. I feel like I’m watching main stream, endless bad news.
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for those that have called their congressional rep, ask them to copy and paste the atf’s response to their inquiry. they won’t forward the original email but they should be able to provide the written response they received. below is what the response that was sent to my rep. it appears, to me, that my background check was approved and waiting for processing. but i can’t verify that to be true of false.
received this on 08/25/22. i’m sitting on 180 days right now.
eForm 4was received on 03-17-2022. As of 03-17-2022, the application is PENDING.
received this on 08/25/22. i’m sitting on 180 days right now.
eForm 4was received on 03-17-2022. As of 03-17-2022, the application is PENDING.
Fuck. I'm 60ish days in. This thread brings me down every time I look at it 
170 days now and Nothing Some other people Waiting 190 days and nothingFuck. I'm 60ish days in. This thread brings me down every time I look at it
7/5 certified here. I think im sitting at 66 days right now.Fuck. I'm 60ish days in. This thread brings me down every time I look at it
I’d like this to be the official picture for the thread so everyone knows what they’re getting into.
Roughly following the posts on the reddit NFA thread, appears the efile delays increase +1 day every day or so. So if you someone submitted 60 days prior to your application then posted approval today, you're looking at quite a bit more than the 60 day difference in approval.
Wtf. Guess it is time to start paper filing again.
I received a forward of the AFT response to my Senator’s staffer inquiry. Dunno why they wouldn’t
And I have zero idea what the fella is experiencing w “returned no action”. I believe Thayer can either issue an approval or a deny.
am in understanding that your senator forwarded you the email they received back from ATF? my congressional rep said she couldn’t because it would violate their cyber security protocols. i figured she didn’t want me to have a direct email contact info at the atf, but what the hell do i know. haha.
Ok, looking at them now.
Yes, I was forwarded the exact email from the ATF from my Senator’s constituent service weenie.
HOWEVER, the header was either modified (most likely) or for some IT reason it does not show sender info. Only “To”, “Subject”, and date/time stamp.
But no “From”...see below.
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Paper form 4 surefire rc2 556
Check cashed: 7/13/2021
Approved: 8/15/2022
In hand: 9/10/2022
420+ days
Check cashed: 7/13/2021
Approved: 8/15/2022
In hand: 9/10/2022
420+ days
thanks for going to the trouble of looking it up.
as a side note, don’t feel bad about forgetting about breakfast. i’m 60, and i get up off the couch and walk into the kitchen and forget what i went after, then go sit back down and remember. hahahaahaha.
Efile submitted to ATF 2/24/2022 aka 200 days and waiting, Single Shot Trust.
Efile submitted to ATF 3/9/2022 aka 187 days and waiting, Single Shot Trust.
Got off the phone with the NFA Branch and all they could tell me is that it is pending. The guy answering the phone was very nice and courteous.
Efile submitted to ATF 3/9/2022 aka 187 days and waiting, Single Shot Trust.
Got off the phone with the NFA Branch and all they could tell me is that it is pending. The guy answering the phone was very nice and courteous.
Paper form 4: CGS HYPERION
Bought: 9/30/2021
Check cashed: 10/26/2021
Approved: Who knows.....
In hand: See above
I have almost given up all hope. Even the efile process is creeping upwards 7-8 months. Before long, efile will be running even with the paper form wait times the way its going.
Bought: 9/30/2021
Check cashed: 10/26/2021
Approved: Who knows.....
In hand: See above
I have almost given up all hope. Even the efile process is creeping upwards 7-8 months. Before long, efile will be running even with the paper form wait times the way its going.
My first E-file took about 90 days…I bought two more suppressors about a month after the first…still waiting, currently around 140 days….
Luckily I’m not in a hurry
I have plenty from the paper form 4 times. 
Luckily I’m not in a hurry
I have plenty from the paper form 4 times.
My last paper was cashed 11/9/2021. If I see mine by Christmas, I'll be a happy camper. But I don't expect to.
You are correct, the ATF doesn't give "status updates" or anything of that sort, the only real communication you received is the approval/disaproval. With Late Feb and early March approvals coming in yours could be soon. - Chase
This is based off of the last 7 days of approvals received, it's designed to help give a realistic expectation of current wait times. We're being as transparent as possible about what we are seeing, and relaying that to everyone.What is this
My first eForm was certified May 17, and my 2nd is Aug 19. I wish they would do a batch approval. It would cut down on time and workload by an inordinate amount for the ATF. Especially with the eForms, since they're all digital. They only would have to do 1 background check, and then approve all the pending eForms under my name.
It would be so much simpler, and would help alleviate a huge portion of their workload by avoiding having to do the same thing every time for each and every NFA item. That's the definition of inefficiency. I know it's the bloated bureaucracy that is government, but at some point, the examiners must want to make their life exponentially easier and help alleviate their workload by simply doing a couple extra clicks of the mouse to approve all the pending Form 4's, after having to only run 1 background check.
C'mon man, you're applying logic (and sound logic at that) to the illogical.My first eForm was certified May 17, and my 2nd is Aug 19. I wish they would do a batch approval. It would cut down on time and workload by an inordinate amount for the ATF. Especially with the eForms, since they're all digital. They only would have to do 1 background check, and then approve all the pending eForms under my name.
It would be so much simpler, and would help alleviate a huge portion of their workload by avoiding having to do the same thing every time for each and every NFA item. That's the definition of inefficiency. I know it's the bloated bureaucracy that is government, but at some point, the examiners must want to make their life exponentially easier and help alleviate their workload by simply doing a couple extra clicks of the mouse to approve all the pending Form 4's, after having to only run 1 background check.
Most gov employees are there to serve time to retire. I know worked for county, state and fed.
Interesting take, sir!My first eForm was certified May 17, and my 2nd is Aug 19. I wish they would do a batch approval. It would cut down on time and workload by an inordinate amount for the ATF. Especially with the eForms, since they're all digital. They only would have to do 1 background check, and then approve all the pending eForms under my name.
It would be so much simpler, and would help alleviate a huge portion of their workload by avoiding having to do the same thing every time for each and every NFA item. That's the definition of inefficiency. I know it's the bloated bureaucracy that is government, but at some point, the examiners must want to make their life exponentially easier and help alleviate their workload by simply doing a couple extra clicks of the mouse to approve all the pending Form 4's, after having to only run 1 background check.
My purchases are through Silencer Shop using single shot trusts. I just bought 3 suppressors like a month ago. Local dealer called last week to say he had them but obviously no stamps. I just got email from Silencer Shop saying to go to the dealer to certify my eform 4.
I guess this is done through their portal at the dealer but what the hell does this mean? Certify it?
I guess this is done through their portal at the dealer but what the hell does this mean? Certify it?
It means that your time hasn't even started yet.
You'll still be drinking heavily and reading this thread in 2024.
You'll still be drinking heavily and reading this thread in 2024.
I was looking at knives the other night and went to Randalls site. Only a 6 year wait these days.
For some damn 440C.
They use the same steel for the knives they sell down at the truck stop. Ninja stars too I think.
They use the same steel for the knives they sell down at the truck stop. Ninja stars too I think.
You should have waited until 9/15/21 then it would still be under a year. - The government
I'm still waiting on a 8/2/2021 paper Form 4. Looking at the Reddit wait time thread, maybe it's going to get approved any day. Or maybe it's already been "returned without action" and I won't know until I bug my lame-duck representative.
Is returned without action applicable to paper forms as well? I htought it was just e form.
Edit: The atf finally picked up the phone and says it was received Dec 6th, still pending. I know I was that cap armory had the status of mailed very shortly after I bought it. What the heck.
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You get the "Ready to Certify" email once all of the steps to submit your application are complete, you will just follow the link in the email and enter your username and pin connecting to your ATF eForms account. Once you and your dealer certify your application, the tax stamp payment is processed and your application is sent to the ATF. You can certify remotely actually, no need to use the dealer's kiosk for this step. - Chase
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