They are available now, the bad news is that they are $6,500.
No that would be an additional $2,400 sir.
6500 seems a bit salty for my liking.
I have two staccatos lol but no atlas (id love onw). I guess I'm referencing the "large frame" market
I think the 6500 is a representation of the .gov upcharge
Not even close to the same thing. Like comparing a Camry to a Ferrari. At least educate yourself on the product and its capabilities before making wild assumptions.
Awww it's feelings got hurt. Change your tampon Sally.
Abuse? Your a pussy cat house bitch. I don't even know who you are or remember you. That's how much I give a fuck about your abuse. Tell us more about how your shitty Kmart guns are comparable to a MRGG.
Wrong wrong wrong and wrong. Atleast you are consistently wrong. Feel free to come out to a match and drop your nuts. Well see who the pussy is.
I never ever said I was a jags assistant rofl. The only person making up shit / pathological liar is you. Maybe get your meds checked, you seem off level.
The new Atlas definitely makes the $6500 more palatable but the mrgg will most likely be in the $5500 range from what i'm hearing. It still better shoot half moa and be dead nuts reliable or I'll just get an LMT with a Bartlein barrel. Regardless the custom 2011/1911 game makes expensive guns seem more reasonable but the quality and performance still have to match.
The 1911 game is a black hole from which there is no return. I passed the event horizon years ago and haven’t hit rock bottom.
True though its gotten worse over the past few years, like many things.
The prices have ramped up dramatically for new builds and old customs in the past 4-5 years. Most of the best builders are pushing into 5 figures with 2-3 year wait times.
I know that LMT, LaRue, FN and a few others. I was told it was close between the LMT MWS and the Geissele.
There are medications for this.
I searched but could not find a single comprehensive list and was surprised that Knights Armament did not
No, it is like comparing a Toyota Tacoma to a Toyota Tacoma TRD model that is priced at 3x as much. Are there small improvements? Yes? Are you getting 3x in performance? Likely, in almost all circumstances, no, you are not. A Ferarri is a race car with race car parameters. A Camry is an eminently reliable consumer automobile. The MRGG-S is $2000 worth of parts and a performance (accuracy) requirement upsold for a Government contract. There is very little "proprietary" involved in it, and very little that distinguishes it from many similar offerings, other than SOCOM viewed it as the "most bestest" and in winning said "most bestest" distinction, just like the MRAD or a bunch of other military contract weapon offerings that can also be sold on the civilian market, Geissele earns the right to charge an obscene amount for it, and still have happy customers, when they deign to offer it for sale, in assuredly limited numbers. Much like the FN SCAR-H, LMT MWS, KAC SR25, etc, etc. It is just Geissele's turn. It is a good looking rifle, but it is still a ~$2000 large frame AR.
You manage to ruin every thread you post in with your constant BS.
It would be fun to hear the KAC guys discuss why they did or didn't want to play in this (MRGG) game.
+1 I'd really like to hear a good insider-info breakdown...ie, on how all these guns are actually working...eg, in the field...and behind the scenes and during trials, etc...
The 2024 base retail on just that upper, before cerakote, is nearly $4700. Is that one of your dealers, can’t really call that secondary can you?
And you manage to be wrong about everything relating to the mrgg-s. Had you actually left mom's basement maybe you would have had a chance to see them in action. There will probally be a few this weekend at the giessle match.
I've got a lot of time on actual gov SR25s. Really awesome platforms, but at such a weight penalty. It can do everything you want it to, mount NV, bipods, etc, etc. But 12-14 pounds starts to be absurd when you are just slinging 168 or 175 308 around, and that is without the can on it. I've only used it on the range or in training, or in vehicle turrets, and they were always 1.2-1.5 inch guns, with FGMM match or LC match. Which, I always say, was totally fine for the intended usage. But we couldn't pass our Sniper qual with them normally, and it isn't that punishing of a qual, presuming your gun can shoot 1-1.2 MOA or better. And that is honestly what I'm the most excited about with the Geissele offering, that they some how figured out a 3/4 MOA gasser, at scale, which would be a big leap forward (I know, I know, everyone on this site built an AR10 that shoots .25 MOA groups). For me, it becomes hard to really assess reliability, in the case of the SR25 because it just isn't an assaulter rifle and you'd need different optics to accomplish that. So it is more of a support rifle or sniper substitute. You do get more suppressing ability, if that is something you want. Follow up is quick. Accuracy is fine.
New M110s and SR-25 are pretty much completely different rifles than the Mk 11 and M110 SASS models.
Thats the kinda douchy move that makes us (technical contracting and program leads, IE COR's) hate contracting officers. Obviously the rules and terms of the RFP/Proposal need to be followed but they need to be designed in such a way that simple mistakes and oversights can be corrected by the vendor as not to DQ them. This latitude is provided in the FAR/DFAR but needs to be written into the documentation. In the end, The customer gets a better product and knows that the competition was legitimate, and not won on some bullshit technicality that truthfully, you could find a reason to DQ any product submitted due to the bullshit they shove into each contract.
