Well it only took one day of having that video up for them to try and call me, so I’m guess that’s a yes. I told them if they want to talk that id prefer to do it over email or text. Didn’t get a reply yet.Does Nightforce have a presence on here?
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Well it only took one day of having that video up for them to try and call me, so I’m guess that’s a yes. I told them if they want to talk that id prefer to do it over email or text. Didn’t get a reply yet.Does Nightforce have a presence on here?
Well it only took one day of having that video up for them to try and call me, so I’m guess that’s a yes. I told them if they want to talk that id prefer to do it over email or text. Didn’t get a reply yet.
I take no offense to wanting to know the whole story. There are 3 sides to every one. However, I've defended them where they deserved it and I'm trying to be objective. If you scroll back and read I said I do believe that they believe it isn't defective. They tested it themselves and found no faults. However shooting 2 groups on a different rifle with a different range of erector travel does not mean there is no defect.No offense to the OP but I’m gonna play devils advocate here and say there’s got to be more to this story. We’re only getting one side so far and there’s always two sides.
I take no offense to wanting to know the whole story. There are 3 sides to every one. However, I've defended them where they deserved it and I'm trying to be objective. If you scroll back and read I said I do believe that they believe it isn't defective. They tested it themselves and found no faults. However shooting 2 groups on a different rifle with a different range of erector travel does not mean there is no defect.
It's the dismissive nature of NF. Skott flat out told me no refund, no replacement. I told him if they did not take care of this issue I would be forced to take them to small claims. Skott replied that they will not be threatened. I did not mean it as any sort of intimidation tactic but rather to make sure they knew I would not just roll over and get stuck with $2400 worth of scrap metal.
Obviously everyone who buys Nightforce scopes is fucked.
Right. I was being facetious. A bunch of guys are reading this one-sided thread and cursing Nightforce forever. I have no reason to discredit the guy having issues here, however with that said I’ve seen it so many times where a one-sided story makes you think the other party is doing something out of malicious intent, only to find out when they finally get a chance to speak their piece that it was really some left-field thing that happened and both parties were on a different page. I despise how Internet forums are the center of cancel culture, where one guy has a problem one time and suddenly 500 people will never buy from that company again due to this anecdotal feedback.It's not that you might get lemon, chances are very slim you will. NF's QC is likely one of the best in the industry and why they're so well regarded. It's just how they are handling this situation.
Most consider NF a top tier manufacturer and would assume the customer service would be top tier as well just like their QC. Most of us are scratching our heads as to why NF is being so bull headed on this particular scope. One would think NF would just swap it out regardless of what they're seeing after receiving so much push back from the OP.
It seem that NF is butting heads with the OP for whatever reason but doesn't make a whole lot of sense when looking at the big picture. Sure, maybe he's an asshole and doesn't deserve a new scope but the optics, pun intended, aren't good for NF regardless of who's right. It's not like they're hanging on by a string financially and need every $1 that's coming in. Not to mention they can QC the returned scope and bring it back to "new" condition and sell it.
Right. I was being facetious. A bunch of guys are reading this one-sided thread and cursing Nightforce forever. I have no reason to discredit the guy having issues here, however with that said I’ve seen it so many times where a one-sided story makes you think the other party is doing something out of malicious intent, only to find out when they finally get a chance to speak their piece that it was really some left-field thing that happened and both parties were on a different page. I despise how Internet forums are the center of cancel culture, where one guy has a problem one time and suddenly 500 people will never buy from that company again due to this anecdotal feedback.
I wouldn't expect them to chime in while they're working through the matter with their customer that filed suit against them.Shout out to night force if you care you need to respond. Period. If you don’t care, well enough said.
I don't really think I will get a lemon. In fact, the scope arrived yesterday and it looks great so far. I did a lot of research before spending that kind of money and honestly, even if I had read this prior to the purchase, I still would have bought the scope. Nightforce has a great reputation for their products and probably 9 times out of 10, their customer service is great too. I was just disappointed to hear about this one situation. If the OP's scope really is defective, and it was not his fault, they should have replaced it a long time ago.I quoted you by mistake. I meant the quote the post above yours.
I don't really think I will get a lemon. In fact, the scope arrived yesterday and it looks great so far. I did a lot of research before spending that kind of money and honestly, even if I had read this prior to the purchase, I still would have bought the scope. Nightforce has a great reputation for their products and probably 9 times out of 10, their customer service is great too. I was just disappointed to hear about this one situation. If the OP's scope really is defective, and it was not his fault, they should have replaced it a long time ago.
Len's a fucking tool, he's all about selling advertisements and promoting moron group think
LRH is a total joke of a forum
Makes you wonder how many others were treated like this, and did not have the knowledge or confidence to stand up to them. How many are out there that don't track, that the user thinks its their own fault.I agree. Probably better than 9 of out 10 times as well. Just goes to show how just one incident can tarnish an otherwise superior reputation. Head scratcher for sure. Enjoy your scope. Mine's great as well. Hard pressed to find something like the NX8 at its price point and quality.
Hard pressed to find something like the NX8 at its price point and quality.
It’s almost like..... we’re only seeing one side of the story.It's one scope.
Why would they dig their heels in over one scope, when even one of their own distributors has assessed it?
Kind of makes you wonder if this is a potentially larger issue with their scopes.
Let the court decide.
Best of luck.
It’s almost like..... we’re only seeing one side of the story.
I trust OP too. It isn't a trust issue. It's that the only thing anyone in this thread has to go on is one person's opinion. The amount of possibilities not visible to that person are endless. It isn't a trust issue.I trust OP.
I purchased this optic over a year ago at a hole in the wall gun store after they first came out. Every other store in the area was out and this store not only had it but gave me a discount. Skeptical but I gladly took it.
For the past year + I have isolated the terrible accuracy problems I have been having to this optic.
I have put it on three of my rifles and they all produce the same results with the NX8.
I have put other optics on the same rifles and had normal good results. Even with cheap $400 scopes instead of the $2400 NX8.
I have had many very experienced shooter’s test it out including one of the accuracy testers at axial precision, and a PRS shooter from this site who won the last competition. Everyone has said the same thing. I couldn’t shoot this bad of a group if I tried.
I have Purchased and tried several different rings and had the same results. The optic has been re-mounted several dozen times including a bunch by a night force dealer using the exact same tools they use set to the same torque settings.
The optic has been back tonight for twice now, only to be sent back as “not defective.”
Night force blamed me, the other gunsmiths, and their own dealer not using proper mounting procedures as the issue. It’s not rocket science. Their dealer mounts hundreds of scopes a year without issue.
Today I took my suppressed Tikka T3 X chambered in .223 out after getting the NX8 back. Same shit as the past year. It really is as if the scope is moving despite everything having been done exactly right countless times. A lot of times I will get two impacts touching or nearly touching, and then one flyer several inches away. Sometimes I will even get a lucky sub MOA group, but the vast majority of the time the groups are between two and 6 inches.
Im not starting this thread to bash any companies or start a fight. I seriously don’t know what else to do at this point and it seems I have a $2400 paperweight.
Night force has said it’s fine twice now and there’s nothing left they can do. Advice?
Why would NF be so reluctant to replace or refund? In the grand scheme of things I’m sure this is peanuts to them. That’s what I don’t get. Been in and out of following this thread since it started. A real wtf situation. Have sent several scopes back myself across multiple manufacturers. None the least bit hesitation to make it right. Not to pass judgment but I’d like to hear the why come from NF. Im sure we all would. Even the OP.
This isn't in defense of NF and shouldn't be taken as such.. but they probably get, what, maybe a hundred calls or emails a week saying "my scope doesn't track" or a line similar to that. When they know they all passed a QC tracking test prior to leaving Idaho. It's probably hard to take all the fudds super-seriously.
I don't think that's the case here and the OP has done a good job of isolating and confirming the issue is with the optic.
Not that it matters, but my experience with NF CS was very professional and personable.
I would imagine they do.Nightforce would have to know this thread exists for them to respond to it.