My employer mandated the vaccine. Anyone else?

However, I do have customers that are starting to ask if I am vaccinated.

I have a good friend in that situation. Her business relies on being in person with people, and being in fairly close contact with groups of people. She was shamed and financially forced into getting the vaccine by her customers.

There is no 'employer' but without customers, she has no income.
 
I have a good friend in that situation. Her business relies on being in person with people, and being in fairly close contact with groups of people. She was shamed and financially forced into getting the vaccine by her customers.

There is no 'employer' but without customers, she has no income.


That’s not “forced” or “shamed” it’s meeting customer/market demands. She could have said no and her customers would have found someone they liked better.
 
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That’s not “forced” or “shamed” it’s meeting customer/market demands. She could have said no and her customers would have found someone they liked better.
English is a tricky language

You can use whatever words you like
The idea is the same

Customers told her they were leaving if she did not show a vax card
Make up your own words however it makes sense to you
 
Question for those smarter than me.

spike protein in the vax is causing inflammation in the bodies organs.

is it the same spike that is also present in covid itself? Meaning if you get the rona these spikes are attacking your body the same way?
 
English is a tricky language

You can use whatever words you like
The idea is the same

Customers told her they were leaving if she did not show a vax card
Make up your own words however it makes sense to you
I suppose that could be true, I've quit going to businesses that require I wear a mask. Worst one was my dentist cause thy were really good.
 
Question for those smarter than me.

spike protein in the vax is causing inflammation in the bodies organs.

is it the same spike that is also present in covid itself? Meaning if you get the rona these spikes are attacking your body the same way?
No, my understanding is that getting natural covid, herd style does not present you with the spike proteins, they are only present in the "vaccine".
 
Considering there isn't one bed available in a large hospital and they are activating 1500 national guard to help at hospitals and set up field tents, not really a joke.....

It's not exactly new that hospitals set up tents with patient overflow....

 
Question for those smarter than me.

spike protein in the vax is causing inflammation in the bodies organs.

is it the same spike that is also present in covid itself? Meaning if you get the rona these spikes are attacking your body the same way?
Yes and No. Not a doctor but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night 😊

My understanding is with the vax, the issue is they're introducing the spike by itself as the "hey look at me" target for your immune system, or so the theory goes, by itself without the actual 'virus'

The problem is, the spike is causing the same symptoms as the virus. The assumption was the spike wasn't in and of itself toxic, it was just a method of attachment for the real toxic material in the virus.

I believe the actual wuflu your immune system recognizes the foreign invaders and will respond and attack appropriately. It's not able to pass the blood/brain barrier and it's killed off as a singular unit.

The issue with the vax is these spikes are floating around by themselves, in the bloodstream, they are passing the blood/brain barrier, not unlike cancer cells in that they're basically floating system wide and landing everywhere.

Where they land they start causing inflammation and reactions to it and depending on your age and health and how your body is able to cope with the inflammatory response in that organ/area you may or may not have a major fucking problem.

The fuckup was in the assumption that the spike was benign by itself, it's not. It causes the same symptoms as the disease so you're essentially injecting live virus.

If you've never had it, your body appears better able to cope. If you've had it and recovered, then get bombarded again, people don't seem to be doing so well in some cases the second time around.

That's what I've gleaned from the docs brave enough to go against the grain and say hey this is fucky we shouldn't be doing it, here's why.
 
I have a good friend in that situation. Her business relies on being in person with people, and being in fairly close contact with groups of people. She was shamed and financially forced into getting the vaccine by her customers.

There is no 'employer' but without customers, she has no income.
For all you self employed business owners buy this tshirt
 
Yes and No. Not a doctor but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night 😊

My understanding is with the vax, the issue is they're introducing the spike by itself as the "hey look at me" target for your immune system, or so the theory goes, by itself without the actual 'virus'

The problem is, the spike is causing the same symptoms as the virus. The assumption was the spike wasn't in and of itself toxic, it was just a method of attachment for the real toxic material in the virus.

I believe the actual wuflu your immune system recognizes the foreign invaders and will respond and attack appropriately. It's not able to pass the blood/brain barrier and it's killed off as a singular unit.

The issue with the vax is these spikes are floating around by themselves, in the bloodstream, they are passing the blood/brain barrier, not unlike cancer cells in that they're basically floating system wide and landing everywhere.

Where they land they start causing inflammation and reactions to it and depending on your age and health and how your body is able to cope with the inflammatory response in that organ/area you may or may not have a major fucking problem.

The fuckup was in the assumption that the spike was benign by itself, it's not. It causes the same symptoms as the disease so you're essentially injecting live virus.

If you've never had it, your body appears better able to cope. If you've had it and recovered, then get bombarded again, people don't seem to be doing so well in some cases the second time around.

That's what I've gleaned from the docs brave enough to go against the grain and say hey this is fucky we shouldn't be doing it, here's why.

And vaxxed people are actually shedding spike proteins.....there is that as well.



So all you smart guys into this "science" thing. Do you know what is meant by "standard methods"?
Do you know why it is so important to our current argument?
 
If you've never had it, your body appears better able to cope. If you've had it and recovered, then get bombarded again, people don't seem to be doing so well in some cases the second time around.

That's what I've gleaned from the docs brave enough to go against the grain and say hey this is fucky we shouldn't be doing it, here's why.
Meaning if you get actual covid, recover and get actual covid again?
 
Employers can mandate vaccinations so long as those vaccinations are FDA approved. That precedent has been around for many decades.

There's some pretty sick historical precedent out there. Buck v Brown comes to mind.

I digress... this started with Google, then swept through the fortune 500 like a tidal wave. Why? Can't say for sure, but these same companies in nearly the same order just a few months ago called ALL of their workers back into the office as soon as the Delta variant was found in India. Coincidence? Sure...

My suspicion is that the Biden administration has given some guarantees to these companies that either they can't be litigated or that the FDA will be approving the vaccinations soon enough that it would moot any employee litigation.

In covid land.. everything seems to run in 2 week cycles. A few weeks, a month or two from now -- it'll be a whole new story. They need this thing to stay on wheels or they'll lose 2022 and they know it.
 
Taking a break in my AC cooled back room w my Gadsden to take the chill off.

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Meaning if you get actual covid, recover and get actual covid again?
I'm not sure that's happening the way they say it is. Let me put it this way. I had the wuflu in early Jan of 20' and other than a few hours of feverish/crampy shit that hit me one afternoon around April of 20' I've been healthy as a horse.

My AO is super high exposure, high interaction with the public, huge numbers of people, different people, every day.

Had 20+ people in my office test positive since this started

IF I was going to get it, or any variant of it, again... I think I would have by now🤷🏼‍♂️

The risk I was speaking of is for people who got actual Covid, recovered, then got vaccinated.
 
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There was these three fellers one time. They was being bullied by their government. They was told to bow several times or else. Finally them boys said, "Listen hoss, we aint skeered of you, now let that sink in. We aint gonna do what you want, we aint gonna worship your toy. Our God will deliver us, or he won't, dont matter, we aint gonna bend a knee either way. We aint skeered."
Shadrack, Mesach, Abednego.
 
I have a good friend in that situation. Her business relies on being in person with people, and being in fairly close contact with groups of people. She was shamed and financially forced into getting the vaccine by her customers.

There is no 'employer' but without customers, she has no income.
It's also about supply and demand. Construction industry where I am is very busy with a bunch of hacks. I have no problem walking away from a job because I can get another one right down the road. I havent spent a dime on advertising in years. If I walk, they will have to sit in their home with work half done for the rest of the year or more. In fact, many times I tell people I'm too busy just because I don't like the feeling I get from the first meeting. Or I will give them a price they can't say yes to and I can't say no to. Within the first 5-10 mins I generally know if its a job I want or not.

I have a pretty small operation with little to no overhead and I live well beneath my means. I would rather sit home and do nothing than be frustrated and stressed. Sometimes the best job is the one you dont take. If you don't know that, you either suck at your job or you haven't been doing it long enough.
 
I know...right! The sky is falling. Everyone is dead here too
Not once did I say they are all dying. The issue is people that need surgeries, certain cancer treatments, and a hospital bed after an ER visit can't get them because all the beds are full and the ventilators are all in use. As my wife says, if I were in a serious car crash I would likely have to be sent somewhere else as they have no space. That's the issue. All the damn covid patients are sucking up the resources....
 
Not once did I say they are all dying. The issue is people that need surgeries, certain cancer treatments, and a hospital bed after an ER visit can't get them because all the beds are full and the ventilators are all in use. As my wife says, if I were in a serious car crash I would likely have to be sent somewhere else as they have no space. That's the issue. All the damn covid patients are sucking up the resources....
You're about 14 months late with this post 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
Not once did I say they are all dying. The issue is people that need surgeries, certain cancer treatments, and a hospital bed after an ER visit can't get them because all the beds are full and the ventilators are all in use. As my wife says, if I were in a serious car crash I would likely have to be sent somewhere else as they have no space. That's the issue. All the damn covid patients are sucking up the resources....
How much does your local hospital earn in FED bucks if "COVID" patients die while on ventilators?
 
It's a first in our area and first time in the 20 years we've been here that the guard is being called in to help...

Come on, you're smarter than that. A Marxist governor deploying the national guard is political theatre to stretch out the ridiculous COVID hysteria. Just like the guard in DC after Jan 6th, or how about that hospital ship that never got used in NY.
 
Work in healthcare here. Employer hasn't mandated it yet, but our client (hospitals) are ALL over it like white on rice in a fucking snow storm.
 
Not once did I say they are all dying. The issue is people that need surgeries, certain cancer treatments, and a hospital bed after an ER visit can't get them because all the beds are full and the ventilators are all in use. As my wife says, if I were in a serious car crash I would likely have to be sent somewhere else as they have no space. That's the issue. All the damn covid patients are sucking up the resources....
That's ok. We all die sometime.
 
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Come on, you're smarter than that. A Marxist governor deploying the national guard is political theatre to stretch out the ridiculous COVID hysteria. Just like the guard in DC after Jan 6th, or how about that hospital ship that never got used in NY.
What hysteria. My wife works in the main hospital in town and sees it everyday first hand that they are at capacity. That's not some made up bullshit. If you don't want to get a covid shot, that's great, but you also shouldn't be allowed to go to the hospital if you get it and need treatment. Leave the bed space for people that really need it then....
 
If you don't want to get a covid shot, that's great, but you also shouldn't be allowed to go to the hospital if you get it and need treatment. Leave the bed space for people that really need it then....

Holy shit. You people really are this fucking crazy aren't you?
Do you see what you wrote.
I'm sure you see nothing wrong with it.

Pay attention folks. And let this shit sink in real good. You can't combat this shit with reasoning.
 
What hysteria. My wife works in the main hospital in town and sees it everyday first hand that they are at capacity. That's not some made up bullshit. If you don't want to get a covid shot, that's great, but you also shouldn't be allowed to go to the hospital if you get it and need treatment. Leave the bed space for people that really need it then....

Hospitals at capacity is not abnormal. Empty hospitals go broke. I linked you to an article showing in 2018 they were putting up tents in the parking lots. This stuff happens. If we were in a true historic pandemic, we would be tripping over bodies in public spaces. Either way, it's no excuse to break down society into a communist hell.

What about the people who took the shots and are "taking up beds for people who really need them"? We should turn them away too since they are clearly defective human beings. Shots didn't work on them, no use trying to help them. Throw them in the street for people who deserve healthcare that will not go to waste. 🙄
 
Hospitals at capacity is not abnormal. Empty hospitals go broke. I linked you to an article showing in 2018 they were putting up tents in the parking lots. This stuff happens. If we were in a true historic pandemic, we would be tripping over bodies in public spaces. Either way, it's no excuse to break down society into a communist hell.

What about the people who took the shots and are "taking up beds for people who really need them"? We should turn them away too since they are clearly defective human beings. Shots didn't work on them, no use trying to help them. Throw them in the street for people who deserve healthcare that will not go to waste. 🙄
As my Dr buddy and wife said, the percentage with covid in the hospital that had the shot are less than 10% at their hospital and it's literally all old people with weekened immune systems. Unlike the initial strain, they have a ton of people in their 20s and 30s that did not get the shot that have all the beds and ventilators used up. Again, the shot should not be mandated. But you also should not be allowed in the hospital if you refuse it and get covid.... Pretty simple fix really
 
As my Dr buddy and wife said, the percentage with covid in the hospital that had the shot are less than 10% at their hospital and it's literally all old people with weekened immune systems. Unlike the initial strain, they have a ton of people in their 20s and 30s that did not get the shot that have all the beds and ventilators used up. Again, the shot should not be mandated. But you also should not be allowed in the hospital if you refuse it and get covid.... Pretty simple fix really

How about we turn away obese people too? They clearly don't deserve healthcare. Let's add smokers, drug users, anyone who risks their body for entertainment in athletics or outdoor activities. Oh, and people that don't wear enough sunscreen and get skin cancer. Pretty simple fix, really. You should be a hospital CEO, would make billions.
 
How about we turn away obese people too? They clearly don't deserve healthcare. Let's add smokers, drug users, anyone who risks their body for entertainment in athletics or outdoor activities. Oh, and people that don't wear enough sunscreen and get skin cancer. Pretty simple fix, really. You should be a hospital CEO, would make billions.
Except those people aren't spreading their issue to other people that could potentially kill them. Big difference, huh
 
As my Dr buddy and wife said, the percentage with covid in the hospital that had the shot are less than 10% at their hospital and it's literally all old people with weekened immune systems. Unlike the initial strain, they have a ton of people in their 20s and 30s that did not get the shot that have all the beds and ventilators used up. Again, the shot should not be mandated. But you also should not be allowed in the hospital if you refuse it and get covid.... Pretty simple fix really

You are a fucking sociopath.

So I guess ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine aren't working on this new strain huh?
 
What hysteria. My wife works in the main hospital in town and sees it everyday first hand that they are at capacity. That's not some made up bullshit. If you don't want to get a covid shot, that's great, but you also shouldn't be allowed to go to the hospital if you get it and need treatment. Leave the bed space for people that really need it then....
So refuse hospital beds to people who refuse an experimental drug? What about the people developing organ problems because of the shot? We should definitely refuse them hospital space also since the morons took and expirmental drug, I mean what did they think was going to happen?

y’all get your big hospital boat in or did it already sink with the all the dead bodies on it?

holy shit look 11 people died out of 3000 cases in Washington today. Man that’s like .8 percent! Whatever will we do!? Probably get like 5 more jabs will probably do the trick.

I literally can’t even imagine what it would be like living my life in perpetual fear.

20-34 yr olds make up 9.8% of hospitalizations in WA. And how many of them eat McD every meal or have health problems?

go back in your house and put your double mask back on. The gov will come tell you when it’s safe to come out again.
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As my Dr buddy and wife said, the percentage with covid in the hospital that had the shot are less than 10% at their hospital and it's literally all old people with weekened immune systems. Unlike the initial strain, they have a ton of people in their 20s and 30s that did not get the shot that have all the beds and ventilators used up. Again, the shot should not be mandated. But you also should not be allowed in the hospital if you refuse it and get covid.... Pretty simple fix really
And this is why Oregon has A governor like Kate Brown and a mayor like Ted wheeler because of Oregon thinking hahah
 
What hysteria. My wife works in the main hospital in town and sees it everyday first hand that they are at capacity. That's not some made up bullshit. If you don't want to get a covid shot, that's great, but you also shouldn't be allowed to go to the hospital if you get it and need treatment. Leave the bed space for people that really need it then....

We’re all equal, it’s just that some are more equal than others. Enjoy your apartheid.
 
What hysteria. My wife works in the main hospital in town and sees it everyday first hand that they are at capacity. That's not some made up bullshit. If you don't want to get a covid shot, that's great, but you also shouldn't be allowed to go to the hospital if you get it and need treatment. Leave the bed space for people that really need it then....
Why would a board of conservatives want to hear your libtard commie views? Welcome to ignor retard.