My employer mandated the vaccine. Anyone else?

[oneshot86]

I have 4 jobs available and no vaccine required.
All that is required is a good honest work ethic and the ability to just shut the fuck up. Work while shutting the fuck up.
No bums, no felons. Do what I want as I want it. I'm cool, but a fast moving cool.

1. a welding fabricator, 20 bucks an hour.
Probably 3 weeks work.
2. wood splitter, 15 bucks an hour, 7 months work.
3. chainsaw operator, 20 bucks hour, 7 months work.
4. Remodeler, my house needs some interior remodeling, and my very large wood deck needs repaired cleaned and retreated. 20 bucks an hour, probably 2 months of work.

No bullshit, if you need a good place to work, it's w me.
I just will not put up w bullshit.
I drink, I cuss and if you are a feelings type, fuck off, don't call.
Thankyou have a fucking glorious day

 

[seanh]

Question for those smarter than me.

spike protein in the vax is causing inflammation in the bodies organs.

is it the same spike that is also present in covid itself? Meaning if you get the rona these spikes are attacking your body the same way?

That is what is happening to many pepeople with adverse reactions

 

[supercorndogs]

I think a big difference is going to be in the amount of spike proteins in your body. The shot is causing your body to produce the spike proteins throughout your body. As opposed to having a virus that uses them as attachment points.

 

[DocRDS]

No but they are taking up beds that wouldn't be if they took care of themselves.

I've worked emergency medicine for 25yrs now and I have done it in both civilian and army worlds.

Both places, the fat soldiers/civilians and ones who have unhealthy lifestyles take up 90% of our resources...

So theres that....

Doc

And just to stir the pot--people with out their 'vaccine' now are part of the 'unhealthy lifestyles'

 

[Aries256]

*Foghorn Leghorn voice*
I’m not gonna get the vax doodah! Doodah! You nazis can kiss my ass ohh a doodahday! Eat a bag of dicks, you asshole commie pricks! I’m not gonna get the vax, ohhhh a doodahday!

 

[DocRDS]

I have 4 jobs available and no vaccine required.
All that is required is a good honest work ethic and the ability to just shut the fuck up. Work while shutting the fuck up.
No bums, no felons. Do what I want as I want it. I'm cool, but a fast moving cool.

1. a welding fabricator, 20 bucks an hour.
Probably 3 weeks work.
2. wood splitter, 15 bucks an hour, 7 months work.
3. chainsaw operator, 20 bucks hour, 7 months work.
4. Remodeler, my house needs some interior remodeling, and my very large wood deck needs repaired cleaned and retreated. 20 bucks an hour, probably 2 months of work.

No bullshit, if you need a good place to work, it's w me.
I just will not put up w bullshit.
I drink, I cuss and if you are a feelings type, fuck off, don't call.
Thankyou have a fucking glorious day

What you got at $100 an hour?

Asking for a friend

 

[Aries256]

Mine is contemplating it. I already told my boss I’m gone if they do. Don’t want to work for such a slimy, nazi-ish, disrespectful company. Even if the pay is semi-good. Fuck that.

 

[oneshot86]

What you got at $100 an hour?

Asking for a friend

maybe one day

 

[Dildobaggins]

-lawyers provide legal advice, not a group of angry retirees on the internet
-skylining yourself by coming on a public forum to say “I’m going to commit fraud” is also a bad idea.
-sorry about your situation.

Where did he say he was going to commit fraud? You listed zero of the medical conditions he may have. He also never said anything about his religious beliefs, therefore...no absolutely 100 percent not fraud.

 

[Jamesr1]

Just wait until the FDA approves one of the vaccines. That’s when you will see all kinds of vaccine mandates. I bet things will get spicy this fall.

Funny thing is, I read that even the placebo group got vaxxed so the long term study is fubar.

 

[Jamesr1]

I suppose that could be true, I've quit going to businesses that require I wear a mask. Worst one was my dentist cause thy were really good.

Yeah, I walked out on a dentist appointment (cleaning) when they asked if I had a mask said, it was in my car, got in and went home.

 

[Jamesr1]

The VA allows for medical exemptions and religious exemptions to the Covid Vaccine. You need to fill out a form 10-263 Covid Vaccine form. On that form you can mark you have received the vaccine, you can mark you have a medical exemption with Dr. signature, or you mark religious exemption and have your supervisor sign off. Then send the completed form into Occupational Health.

A religious exemption does not have to align with a theological organization and can simply be a "deeply held moral or ethical belief". If you need a copy of the VA 10-623 and can't find it, PM me and I'll email you a blank.

Not all heroes wear capes.

 

[Schroedernd]

Yeah, I walked out on a dentist appointment (cleaning) when they asked if I had a mask said, it was in my car, got in and went home.

Such a bad ass

 

[norcalAF]

My military unit just emailed all of us today and said it is mandated that we get at the very least the FDA approved vaccine, of course they didn't say that they just said get the covid vaccine and send us proof.

The actual order from the head of the DoD states that only the FDA approved vaccine will be mandatory, but any of the vaccines under EUA will fulfill the requirements. I did a little research to find out that nugget that my unit health monitor left out....

 

[Schroedernd]

My military unit just emailed all of us today and said it is mandated that we get at the very least the FDA approved vaccine, of course they didn't say that they just said get the covid vaccine and send us proof.

The actual order from the head of the DoD states that only the FDA approved vaccine will be mandatory, but any of the vaccines under EUA will fulfill the requirements. I did a little research to find out that nugget that my unit health monitor left out....

My unit email was a little different yesterday. Straight up said we need your name if you do not plan on getting it so that you can be separated from the national guard.

 

[norcalAF]

My unit email was a little different yesterday. Straight up said we need your name if you do not plan on getting it so that you can be separated from the national guard.

My unit email was a little different yesterday. Straight up said we need your name if you do not plan on getting it so that you can be separated from the national guard.

I'm in an Air Force Reserve Medical unit, they are a bit kinder lol

 

[Schroedernd]

My military unit just emailed all of us today and said it is mandated that we get at the very least the FDA approved vaccine, of course they didn't say that they just said get the covid vaccine and send us proof.

The actual order from the head of the DoD states that only the FDA approved vaccine will be mandatory, but any of the vaccines under EUA will fulfill the requirements. I did a little research to find out that nugget that my unit health monitor left out....

My unit email was a little different yesterday. Straight up said we need your name if you do not plan on getting it so that you can be separated from thr national guard.

I'm in an Air Force Reserve Medical unit, they are a bit kinder lol

I'm air guard out of Alaska. I was rather shocked how they asked that lol

 

[Jamesr1]

?

 

[whitehawk]

Nurse manager of a medical covid unit. Mandated to get vaxed or get out. Wondering what other jobs my experience can get me…. Considering a move to Montana.

 

[Dragonscout25]

One of my best friends lost one of his two restaurants when he had to close it because his last 3 employees at that location and one asst. manager took the state "lazy pay" and he couldn't find the staff for that location... I'm a fed employee and they mandated half of the agency a month ago. I tried to turn in my exemption form then. The employee health staff wouldn't take it since I wasn't the right job class. I told them "you know the rest is coming and my doctor sez I can't get the shot." The NEXT DAY they opened up the rest of the agency to the mandate. I called the same woman and said didja get my RE-send?? We need to see documentation. NO that's a HIPAA violation and you can't have it. Everybody got quiet then...

 

[bigdaddydmd]

My unit email was a little different yesterday. Straight up said we need your name if you do not plan on getting it so that you can be separated from thr national guard.

I'm air guard out of Alaska. I was rather shocked how they asked that lol

Army Guard here. Still waiting for email from unit with the shit or get off the pot wording. I'm in the MEDCOM so figure it will hit soon. Supposedly DOD is still working on medical exemptions and religious exemptions and Sec Def Austin mentioned them the other day so there is some hope. As I understand it (it will be branch specific) it looks like I have to meet with a Medical Officer and Chaplain and apply for Religious exemption. I do not know the regulations/memo formats/what this will exactly entail. No clarification or steps have been published yet, but it still appears exemptions will be a possibility. If I find out what this whole shitshow process will entail I will be sure to post up here for my fellow brothers and crayon eaters.

*edit. It may take some time for me to find out. September drill was cancelled due to lack of budget so I won't be back on duty until Oct. Guess we spent all our training dollars on Jan 6th capital response and Congress hasn't reimbursed NGB yet.

 

[Snuby642]

Was that not a title 10 gig?

 

[Snuby642]

Nurse manager of a medical covid unit. Mandated to get vaxed or get out. Wondering what other jobs my experience can get me…. Considering a move to Montana.

You can probably add Texas to this.

https://www.kansascity.com/news/coronavirus/article253732383.html

 

[Bonjourjr]

FML

 

[bigdaddydmd]

Was that not a title 10 gig?

I believe it was a Title 32 state response "gig". My opinion is it did not fall under Title 10 orders to avoid the whole Posse Comitatus concerns. I will have to research what type of orders were cut for Capitol security as I am unsure. What I do know is I received a Land Component Commander letter in late July telling us of budget woes for NGB across the board.

excerpt "Many of you may be aware of the National Guard's shortage of funds for the current fiscal year. This is due to the $521 million spend from the National Guard's budget to send more than 25,000 troops to the Capitol to provide security after the elections. The National Guard funded the response with FY21 dollars earmarked for training, operations, equipment, and maintenance-- funds which are still yet to be reimbursed by the U.S. Congress."

 

[Snuby642]

So title 32 for state funded deployment, I thought was disaster relief.

Depending on how you look at it maybe that was appropriate.

 

[bigdaddydmd]

So title 32 for state funded deployment, I thought was disaster relief.

Depending on how you look at it maybe that was appropriate.

Copy and paste since i am lazy and don't feel like typing. Basically Title 32 can be used by States for state responses like disaster relief, fighting fires, but Title 32 can be used for Federal Missions while the troops remain under state control. (Like what occurred in DC, Border security missions, etc). Title 10 is true Federal Activation and under Federal Control. Governor of the state approves the use of state NG and releases them to Active Duty component for a specific length of time.

"out-of-state National Guard troops were there under the authority of 32 U.S.C. § 502(f)." in reference to the soldiers sent to D.C.

"When on duty, state National Guard troops can wear three different “hats.” The first, and most common, is “State Active Duty” (SAD) status, in which they are exercising state functions at the request of the state government and are generally governed by state law. For example, when Minnesota Governor Tim Walz mobilized the Minnesota National Guard to help restore order in Minneapolis in the midst of the protests and violence arising from the murder of George Floyd, those troops were there in their SAD capacity. This first “hat” is often described as “Title 32” status (a reference to that part of the U.S. Code that deals with the National Guard), but that’s incorrect. “Title 32” status is actually the second “hat,” pursuant to which the state National Guard troops remain subject to state command and control but are used for federal missions authorized by Congress—and, perhaps most importantly, are usually paid for by the federal government.

Finally, the third hat, “Title 10” status, is when state National Guard units are “federalized” by the president of the United States pursuant to one of the specific statutory authorities for doing so. Once federalized, National Guard troops come under the full command and control of the Pentagon—specifically the secretary of defense. In essence, National Guard troops become part of the federal military until and unless they are returned to state status."

 

[DarnYankeeUSMC]

They can print more.

I believe it was a Title 32 state response "gig". My opinion is it did not fall under Title 10 orders to avoid the whole Posse Comitatus concerns. I will have to research what type of orders were cut for Capitol security as I am unsure. What I do know is I received a Land Component Commander letter in late July telling us of budget woes for NGB across the board.

excerpt "Many of you may be aware of the National Guard's shortage of funds for the current fiscal year. This is due to the $521 million spend from the National Guard's budget to send more than 25,000 troops to the Capitol to provide security after the elections. The National Guard funded the response with FY21 dollars earmarked for training, operations, equipment, and maintenance-- funds which are still yet to be reimbursed by the U.S. Congress."

Money has no meaning to them

 

[silentwoods]

I wouldn't because I see all the ones "fully vaccinated" with 2 shots, which is not fully vaccinated anymore, not wearing their masks even though fully vaccinated people are supposed to be again. Virtue signaling with a mask has become too much trouble for most. Where there is some one with authority on a power trip they are still being forced.

I just got an E-mail his morning. Safeway has another dose ready for everyone who took two already

More thoughts on the general subject. OSHA does not consider a mask PPE, so if you get sick at work, and they require you to wear a mask. You have a valid argument they didn't do anything to protect you. There is a ton of evidence out there masks are harmful, so you also have a valid argument, that not only is what they are doing non-protective but physically harmful. Third run here, what if wearing the mask at work caused you so much anxiety that you must now seek treatment? This is now a work related injury or illness so its needs to go through Workmans Comp.

Everyone walks out something may not happen. Everyone file a Work Comp claim. Something will happen.

Employers Do Not Need To Record Adverse COVID-19 Vaccine Reactions on their OSHA Form 300 Log | JD Supra

Seyfarth Synopsis: OSHA recently issued additional guidance addressing whether employers need to record an employee’s adverse vaccine reaction on...

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OSHA is running cover for employers.
Call me shocked

 

[silentwoods]

If this is so unquestionably safe, why are they pulling every single thing they can to legally protect every single institution?

Our company is headed for one hell of a fight when they mandate this trash.

 

[armorpl8chikn]

There are no fully approved vaccines. Do your homework.
There are links to the info all over this site. @gayguns Posted it a bit ago.
They have relabeled the Pfizer and called it approved.

 

[AllenOne1]

There are no fully approved vaccines. Do your homework.
There are links to the info all over this site. @gayguns Posted it a bit ago.
They have relabeled the Pfizer and called it approved.

There's Definitely Something Very Wrong with Pfizer-BioNTech's 'Full Authorization' Docs

"There is no *available* FDA approved licensed vaccine. Here's what is happening. If FDA approved & licensed COVID19 vaccine, it would have to revoke the EUA..."

thekylebecker.substack.com

 

[Triple BB]

Hit the road if you don't like it. Ain't no one owed a job in this country. I quit a number of jobs in my career due to excessive bullschitt and bad management. I applaud your freedom of choice...

 

[norcalAF]

FML

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Note that it says the only vac that is mandatory is the comirnty vac, I already told my unit that is the one I will be taking. Comirnty isn't even on the market yet.....

 

[Bonjourjr]

Note that it says the only vac that is mandatory is the comirnty vac, I already told my unit that is the one I will be taking. Comirnty isn't even on the market yet.....

I am tracking that. I laid it out to my troops and let them know this morning after I read the “approval” docs from Pfizer. All of my soldiers do not want to take it and are prepared leave the army over this. I am going to push this as far as I can and make them work to put that shit in me. Ultimately I need to think of my family. With over 18 years in, I am definitely in a tight spot.

 

[norcalAF]

I am tracking that. It’s my duty to inform my soldiers to the best of my ability and let them know this morning after I read the “approval” docs from Pfizer. I am going to push this as far as I can and make them work to put that shit in me. Ultimately I need to think of my family. With over 18 years in, I am definitely in a tight spot.

Roger, I'm at 14, and am prolly gonna end up with the jab, but I'm gonna make them work for it. I have heard some murmers about comirnty not even being released in the US due to liability concerns. I guess we will all see

I really appreciate you posting the letter, my own unit didn't say a peep about the order, just go get jabbed, it's mandatory. I actually got a copy of that letter from my guard member coworker at our civilian job as government contractors.

 

[Bonjourjr]

I will keep updating on the route the army takes in processing non compliance… at least at fort hood. A lot of my peers and soldiers have been at the stage for a while now. Now the rubber meets the road. We will see how this shakes up.

 

[LawnMM]

comirnty not even being released in the US due to liability concerns.

The article I read (whatever that's worth) seemed to allude to the comirnty being the only actually FDA approved vaccine.

The Pfizer biotech they're pushing on everyone right now is still under EUA. The comirnty wouldn't have any liability shield like the biotech does. Technically the biotech should have the EUA revoked because they now have an FDA approved version.

Interesting bait and switch.

 

[pmclaine]

Just sent to my union rep......

Sorry you are having to deal with this turd mandate....as if there are not enough problems going on.....

Im listening to a supervisor defend the right of a child porn retiree to keep his pension under taking it being "cruel and unusual" while in his next breath he is telling good employees that want to keep their jobs "get vaccinated or leave".

Im lower than a child porn collector.

All these mandaters are using the FDA BS to hang some legitimacy on these mandates. The friggen "approved" shot isnt even out in the wild and available to get injected in the numbers of people that will need it.

Im not against vaccine, I applaud those that took it for making decisions that they feel appropriate for them. I dont think the shit is intentionally dangerous in some crazy Dr Evil scheme but I have watched "our leaders" reverse and back track over this shit for the last 18 months - damn even our own President and Vice President are on record as having said dont take it. Isnt it good that I am resisting Trumpism by not taking his vaccine?

The precedents of measles shots, chicken pox, polio shots dont apply here.

Those vaccines work.

No one ever said "My polio shot didnt work because John hasnt taken his."

This whole situation seems to be coming from a level even above the Governor.

I dont think there is going to be a common sense legal argument to defeat it or at least accommodate those that want to take the vaccine but just want to wait the usual amount of time to have it determined if this is another Thalidomide or hopefully...a Salk vaccine.

Shit with this shit coming out November of 20 and not really coming on line until Jan/Feb 21 the world has yet to see the effects on a fetus.

Sad I am sitting here wondering what our most vulnerable will experience before I make my decisions....We have co-workers on this job right now that are being forced into becoming part of that experiment. They could go this afternoon and terminate that concern and than be eating dinner this evening as nothing happened but if they want to do something they consider to be protecting that baby they are forbidden to do so unless they leave their job.

Tell the union to get its shit together.

If they mean that solidarity shit at the bottom of communications now is the time to enact it.

You got your papers in? If so I dont blame you and wouldnt feel any bitterness toward any person that leaves if they have the time.

What would be my return on 17 years? Is it 50% at 10 years than some extra percent per year of service? I have paid in for mil time in service...do I get credit for that if I leave in October or only after 20?

 

[rjacobs]

My company hasnt mandated it...yet. I know our union has concern's that center around privacy as well as our ability to hold a medical certificate issued by the FAA if we get some odd thing from the shot. Our loss of license insurance isnt up to par in a situation like that and I am doubting the company will want to take out a 7-10 million dollar a piece loss of license insurance policy on each of our pilots(estimated 30 year career earnings+retirement+benefits). Thats what it would take for me to take the jab on a company mandate. Give me a loss of license/life insurance policy guarantee for my lifetime earnings, 401k and insurance for my family payable in the event of disability or death from the shot. Shouldnt be a big deal right...if the shot is so safe, the company will never have to exercise the insurance payouts... LOL.

Im more concerned with New York city gotta show your papers to go in a restaurant... and I guess Louisiana now is doing the same...I didnt realize Louisiana had gone commie also... Im sure Boudreaux and Bodean have their vaccine's LOL.

 

[Dragonscout25]

From where I work I can flat out tell you that ALL National Guard and Reserve deployments to the DC riots regardless of assignment, location or length of time were Title 32. Period. Full Stop...

 

[pmclaine]

My company hasnt mandated it...yet. I know our union has concern's that center around privacy as well as our ability to hold a medical certificate issued by the FAA if we get some odd thing from the shot. Our loss of license insurance isnt up to par in a situation like that and I am doubting the company will want to take out a 7-10 million dollar a piece loss of license insurance policy on each of our pilots(estimated 30 year career earnings+retirement+benefits). Thats what it would take for me to take the jab on a company mandate. Give me a loss of license/life insurance policy guarantee for my lifetime earnings, 401k and insurance for my family payable in the event of disability or death from the shot. Shouldnt be a big deal right...if the shot is so safe, the company will never have to exercise the insurance payouts... LOL.

Im more concerned with New York city gotta show your papers to go in a restaurant... and I guess Louisiana now is doing the same...I didnt realize Louisiana had gone commie also... Im sure Boudreaux and Bodean have their vaccine's LOL.

The shit aint gonna end.

In conversations with my supervisor I asked "How much is enough? Will you stand for bi annual boosters against something less than 1% fatal?"

His answer "Yes of course!"

There is no threshold they wont step over.

If I choose to not get vaxxed Im certain the next thing will be "No food shopping, No med care, No anything"

Either the general pop wakes up and says no or they are just going to become more the farm cattle the govt thinks we are.

 

[MCSO1357]

The shit aint gonna end.

In conversations with my supervisor I asked "How much is enough? Will you stand for bi annual boosters against something less than 1% fatal?

His answer "Yes of course!"

There is no threshold they wont step over.

If I choose to not get vaxxed Im certain the next thing will be "No food shopping, No med care, No anything"

Either the general pop wakes up and says no or they are just going to become more the farm cattle the govt thinks we are.

This is EXACTLY why the mandate of the original vaccine is the battle line. Fold on that and they will not stop.

 

[oneshot86]

Imagine had you guys refused to wear a mask. This thread wouldn’t exist and Trump would be your President. What’s next?

Resist Everything.

i didnt wear a mask

 

[KZP]

The shit aint gonna end.

In conversations with my supervisor I asked "How much is enough? Will you stand for bi annual boosters against something less than 1% fatal?"

His answer "Yes of course!"

There is no threshold they wont step over.

If I choose to not get vaxxed Im certain the next thing will be "No food shopping, No med care, No anything"

Either the general pop wakes up and says no or they are just going to become more the farm cattle the govt thinks we are.

 

[Snuby642]

This is what I'm believing / living by.
And not like it's a new thing.

‘Bombshell’ study finds natural immunity superior to vaccination

A major study conducted by Israeli researchers into natural immunity has found that immunity acquired via infection from Covid-19 is superior to immunity from the Pfizer vaccine. [...]Read More...

unherd.com

 

[TurboTrout]

This is what I'm believing / living by.
And not like it's a new thing.

‘Bombshell’ study finds natural immunity superior to vaccination

A major study conducted by Israeli researchers into natural immunity has found that immunity acquired via infection from Covid-19 is superior to immunity from the Pfizer vaccine. [...]Read More...

unherd.com

I’m not even a virologist, and I could have told you natural lol immunity was better, in another “bombshell” rain is wet.

 

[pineoak]

It’s likely that the employer will have you sign a waiver stating that the vaccine is “voluntary“ and you’re actually waiving any rights of recourse.

DO NOT SIGN ANYTHING YOU DO NOT AGREE WITH.

Wait until the very last day before doing anything. On the signature line of anything you ultimately have to sign even though you do not want to, print in bold letters "Under Duress of Termination" before and after your signature.

If they require you to sign it differently, tell them this is how you will sign their document. If it's not acceptable, then you need to make a choice. Basically they are trying to prove that you VOLUNTARILY signed a document, you're just making it clear on the document it's under threat of termination. Which is clearly true.

If you are a one party state, you can record the entire engagement on a small digital recorder.

 

[BullGear]

This is more about control of the person and not control of a virus.

 

[Tempest 455]

This is more about control of the person and not control of a virus.

Has been since day 1.