I am number 8 on the preorder list at Altus. But I had to call, to do it.....
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Don't get me started ?
Its an AICS Mag that feeds rimfire rounds. If anyone is gonna go that route they will look similar cause it fits an AICS bottom metal. Now side by side there noticeable differences. Should we start bashing anyone who makes an action with a Remington 700 footprint cause it’s not the original? Atlas and RRS are a different story cause in most cases it’s essentially a direct copy or infringement on a patent.Pretty interesting there are threads bashing companies knocking off atlas and RRS.
No one seems to take issue with two companies knocking off vudoo mags.
You're just a fan boyNo one seems to take issue with two companies knocking off vudoo mags.
No they don’t. I’ve talked to them many times about it
Its an AICS Mag that feeds rimfire rounds. If anyone is gonna go that route they will look similar cause it fits an AICS bottom metal. Now side by side there noticeable differences. Should we start bashing anyone who makes an action with a Remington 700 footprint cause it’s not the original? Atlas and RRS are a different story cause in most cases it’s essentially a direct copy or infringement on a patent.
The whole idea of patents is to give the company a monopoly for a certain period of time so they can recoup their R&D costs and make a profit. No profit and no money for future R&D. And no firearms company I know is non-profit, at least by design. However, if a company's R&D is RipOff and Duplicate, to use MB's term, they do not have the expense and do not need a patent. Other companies do not have to remain inactive. They can do true R&D to develop a superior product and leapfrog the company with the original product.I think people are okay with it because they like THAT product. They are happy about having more options, albeit at the expense of the patent holder. Because it's either a company develops something innovative, doesn't patent it, and allows free market which would be better for everyone else besides that original company. Or they develop and patent, they own the market, the consumer is at the whim of a monopoly, and other companies remain inactive. So, ya. Naturally the Gen Pop tends to be okay with patent infringement because it's favorable to them.
Frankly, I'm not even sure why Zermatt bothered to make their own mag. At $125 a pop Ill just continue to use my Vudoo mags. Maybe pick up a Vudoo 5 and 15rd billet mag. But Zermatt does have that adjustable catch... that's cool. Vuddoo doesn't have that on their mags...hmmm
I think people are okay with it because they like THAT product. They are happy about having more options, albeit at the expense of the patent holder. Because it's either a company develops something innovative, doesn't patent it, and allows free market which would be better for everyone else besides that original company. Or they develop and patent, they own the market, the consumer is at the whim of a monopoly, and other companies remain inactive. So, ya. Naturally the Gen Pop tends to be okay with patent infringement because it's favorable to them.
Frankly, I'm not even sure why Zermatt bothered to make their own mag. At $125 a pop Ill just continue to use my Vudoo mags. Maybe pick up a Vudoo 5 and 15rd billet mag. But Zermatt does have that adjustable catch... that's cool. Vuddoo doesn't have that on their mags...hmmm
So not a big 22 guy, yet, but here's the dumb question...
If this is a firing pin driven rimfire with a bayonet fire control assembly can you dryfire this or can you damage it like the older Rugers?
@Zermatt Arms what's the deal with the swept bolt handles? Will it fit an MPA without issue? I know a lot of people that have had to machine out chassis and stocks for the Origin.
Looks like that stock was specifically cut for the action. So not really able to tell how compatible it is. From looking at this photo it looks like the bolt handle cut is at an angle so guessing it's going to be a pitd for many stocks and chassis.
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You got to read the comments dude
Does an Origin fit every stock or chassis out there without issue because of its swept handle?
We went to the swept handle on the Origin because that was what the overwhelming majority of the public had indicated they wanted. We kept it on the RimX because it's a more direct fit than a straight handle into Remington 700 inlet stocks.Why did you all choose a swept handle? Understanding that there would be minor fitting issues with some stocks and chassis what was the advantage over a straight handle that makes it worth it? Is it because there's going to be other fitting issues with the ejection port anyway? Is it all in the name of scope clearance? My TL3'S have no issues clearing the ocular housing.
Maybe you could enlighten all of us as to what your issue is instead of being so confrontational...Nope. You're still not getting it. And I'm not going to cater to you because you're too lazy to read the thread.
I never preoder anymore - what does that have to do w/ your hostility?Have you pre-ordered one? Think you're going to pick one up in the near future?
So what's your issue w/ the RimX that were "too lazy" to see?No hostility here buddy. Just checking to see if you had any input about the RimX.
@padom Do you mind me asking who is chambering and fitting the rimX barrel for you? I recently picked up a mullerworks rim fire blank and need a good Smith to chamber and fit the barrel.
Looks like that stock was specifically cut for the action. So not really able to tell how compatible it is. From looking at this photo it looks like the bolt handle cut is at an angle so guessing it's going to be a pitd for many stocks and chassis.
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This beauty just showed up from @Frank Green (Bartlein). Everything is in hand for the review and testing. Just waiting on the RimX
Bartlein 22LR
25" Blank
1.25" Straight ready to be contoured
Do you contour your own barrel or bartlein do
Looking through other post has anyone seen extreme small groups out of a VuDoo? I haven’tI love that there is literally one 5 shot group posted anywhere and the immediate response is “it won’t shoot, I’ll keep old Bessy here, she’s tried and true!”
Ok what specs on a barrel do i need toI just got my Shilen select match ratchet rifled barrel. Heavy Palma. It measures .955" at 20" from most likely breech face. Still haven't heard anything about the Proof Prefit. Let's go Zermatt! Ready to chamber a RimX