Honestly with how short and light the 6-36 is, i bet the overall rankings are going to be razor thin margins
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Rifle Scopes New Schmidt & Bender PM2 6-36x56
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Depends on the bullet
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“That ain’t no 105mm Ball…that’s some Super Duper Match 105mm with low SD!”
Yeah but with the reduced FOV you guy's have....makes it easier to see the impacts..
Shouldn’t matter where it’s made in terms of being acceptable to sell in the US.
- If a company doesn’t have a US presence and no extradition/etc agreement the only thing that can be done is block imports and sales
- The Japanese OEMs + March might have a license agreement in place
- Some companies may have patents Swaro is infringing on, and nobody wants to start a war only the lawyers will win
- March in particular might not have a dingus between the eyepiece and reversal system
- The companies might not actually care, which might change now that we’re bringing it up
OK I wanna hypothesize something…
So, say you’re in Germany and you just happen to see a really nice Schmidt and bender 6–36X 56 scope. You buy it and you come back to the United States… would that get caught at the airport? Would you be stopped in any way from bringing it into the United States?
So, say you’re in Germany and you just happen to see a really nice Schmidt and bender 6–36X 56 scope. You buy it and you come back to the United States… would that get caught at the airport? Would you be stopped in any way from bringing it into the United States?
That will almost certainly not result in any problems. They’ll even refund your VAT on the way out, which is great because if the US Cistoms person has half a braincell you’ll pay customs on the way in.
So if I am vacationing in Austria, and happen to purchase a scope from @wooferocau while there, and I stuff it in my checked baggage . . .
Am I going to run into problem with US Customs or any other law enforcement?
Will they take warrants and surround my house and put me all over the news for a 120 day standoff with the feds?
Am I going to run into problem with US Customs or any other law enforcement?
Will they take warrants and surround my house and put me all over the news for a 120 day standoff with the feds?
I don’t think you’d run afoul of any ITAR or similar defense articles restrictions, but the game is do you declare it or do you not declare it.
If you can get them without the yuge duty, I’ll take one.
Not a violation of ITAR since it is inbound versus exported from the US.
It is definitely a roll of the dice. If you declare it, you will pay some sort of duty based on the price on the receipt. If you don't declare it and they decide to search your bags, then you will pay the duty plus a penalty. The bigger problem is that they flag you and you are now on a list.
I have traveled to the EU more times than I can recall. I think I have been searched twice. Wasn't bringing anything thing undeclared so nothing happened.
Personal exemption is only $800, so this scope is going to exceed . . .
No ATF restrictions. https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/do-...e-scopes-manufactured-military-specifications
TSA says OK in carry on. https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/rifle-scope-scope-only
Previous discussion here appears to show a 14.9% duty imposed. https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/info-needed-importing-scope-to-usa-from-uk.7170423/
No ATF restrictions. https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/do-...e-scopes-manufactured-military-specifications
TSA says OK in carry on. https://www.tsa.gov/travel/security-screening/whatcanibring/items/rifle-scope-scope-only
Previous discussion here appears to show a 14.9% duty imposed. https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/info-needed-importing-scope-to-usa-from-uk.7170423/
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The import duties don’t necessarily apply to where the item is coming from but where it was manufactured and sometimes what features it has. For example you might have to pay a duty on a Chinese scope and not on a German scope. There is a whole database maintained by customs that is supposed to be updated with the latest legislation. The importer or their broker is supposed to provide the correct item code to customs and assuming they agree with your assessment that will determine if and how much duty you need to pay.
Here is a link
https://hts.usitc.gov/
-Marty
How are you supposed to make sense out of all of that nonsense? How many days of research to determine the duty?
I found tariffs on Chinese scopes, but I have not found anything yet for Germany.
The import duties don’t necessarily apply to where the item is coming from but where it was manufactured and sometimes what features it has. For example you might have to pay a duty on a Chinese scope and not on a German scope. There is a whole database maintained by customs that is supposed to be updated with the latest legislation. The importer or their broker is supposed to provide the correct item code to customs and assuming they agree with your assessment that will determine if and how much duty you need to pay.
Here is a link
https://hts.usitc.gov/
-Marty
How are you supposed to make sense out of all of that nonsense? How many days of research to determine the duty?
I found tariffs on Chinese scopes, but I have not found anything yet for Germany.
Does it really matter? The customs agent's know the correct product code and associated duty. Plan for the worst (20%) and see if the transaction still makes sense.
Well, if @koshkin confirms #FOVgate was Swaro’s fault, I’ll have to issue a meme-joke retraction and instead issue forth with anti-Swaro-memes.
Then, I’ll have no choice but to send a meme-invoice to Swaro to recoup my joke-time fee.
I’m glad I don’t own any Swaro products because if they did pull a fast FOVone, I’d be inclined to hit their glass with a ball peen hammer lol
Then, I’ll have no choice but to send a meme-invoice to Swaro to recoup my joke-time fee.
I’m glad I don’t own any Swaro products because if they did pull a fast FOVone, I’d be inclined to hit their glass with a ball peen hammer lol
I remember reading a post from another member that said Jerry at S&B said they will. It was a bit ago so not sure if he has changed that policy.
I believe this is indeed due to Swaro's US patent. I already updated my recommendations to reflect what I think of their questionable (to me) use of lawfare.
ILya
I have the TT525P and the new 7-35x is arriving next week. Once they are all here, I'll do a proper side-by-side.
ILya
Nice rig, surprises Aus let’s you have a desert tech, looks way too tacticalBy Christ....the S&B 6-36 sure does draw a crowd!!!
Wait a sec, I thought you said you raised square poopers?
surprises Aus let’s you have a desert tech, looks way too tactical
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Good thing you don't live in WA, they would definitely have you on a list
Good thing you don't live in WA, they would definitely have you on a list
My man owns an operable centurian tank.... In Australia.....
I think the knows he's already on a list lol
Eh, the Americans are jealous Kiwis and Aussies don't need permission to buy or build a suppressor
Good thing you don't live in WA, they would definitely have you on a list
Don't worry, we are all on multiple 'lists'.
So i know you mentioned the sun flare thing on TTs. Is that a deal breaker or not the biggest concern?
I hate not being able to look at stuff and buying sight unseen.
Depends, if the sun is just right you could encounter almost complete white out. For this reason I suggest using the supplied ARD or a sunshade during daytime, both of these would significantly help the situation.
Can anyone tell me if the new LPI (side parallax illumination module) is brighter than the old tumor illumination? Sure would be nice if the new LPI unit is brighter than the older units.
Suppressors are restricted in all Australian states if I'm not mistaken.Eh, the Americans are jealous Kiwis and Aussies don't need permission to buy or build a suppressor
New Zealand has a free for all on suppressors, but that's the only good thing going for us.
Australia has virtually nothing worth being jealous of, in relation to gun laws that is.
Full FOV Schmidts certain isn't enough reason to move there.
Yeah, I probably should have assumed things were at least slightly different in Oz. As a Californian living in NZ, it was rather surreal to be able to just buy a suppressor at my local shop and take it home same day, let alone build my own.
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