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Those probably would have had to go back to Austria, so he'd likely be unable to tell you.
Well since were into closure, what was the issue with mine?? Lets here it.. You test the second one, and?? I PM'ed the fell from Australia so he can see what is going to be said here... How about the one your about to get from PA, you know the guy who just bought a NF and suddenly isn't having any more issues...
I'm all ears, waiting!!!
WTF are you babbling about? There was no issue with yours according the the post above from ZCO. What am I getting from PA? You're confused or drunk.
drunk i guess... Are you really so naive to believe they replaced and refunded me and there was no issue?? Refunded 6 from another guy.. c-mon man..
Yes, I truly believe they would refund you or replace a scope when nothing is wrong. I know the people who own/work at ZCO and I fully believe they will do that. It doesn't really cost much at all when you produce high quality items that rarely have any issues.
We haven't had to replace or work on many rifles we sell. But I can tell you that we would 1000% replace or refund a rifle that works fine....if that's what it takes to make sure a customer is happy. Or if they aren't happy, that's what it took to make sure we did everything we possibly could.
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@gebhardt02
We'll buy one or both of those optics if you'd like to sell them.....and use them ourselves for the NF ELR match this year. That's how much confidence I have with these fellas.
We'll buy one or both of those optics if you'd like to sell them.....and use them ourselves for the NF ELR match this year. That's how much confidence I have with these fellas.
Well the rest of us know what's going on here. I absolutely believe they would take every one of those scopes back because they have a VERY LONG TRACK RECORD of doing whatever they can to make sure they act above board. I don't know what the hell happened with those but I do know what's happened here as do you as does everyone else. Zco isn't perfect but they sure try to be. I don't doubt that they have issues from time to time but I flat out don't believe a bunch of the bs being told here. I've dealt with them several times myself as have so many of us. I'm not a fan boy and I have no issue with putting the facts out on the table but I do prefer to deal in facts and not lead in speculation bs when a company is obviously willing to do anything to make someone happy and has such a strong rep for making top notch optics.
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Be sure to mount them on a 416 in a ZCO or Spuhr and let me know how it goes... You put it out there, let's do this!!! They still haven't said what the "minor" issue was, but hey, if your ready to buy a scope with a "minor" issue and the second returned one then i have some beautiful pasture land for sale in Arizona I've been looking to sell to someone just like you..
Make sure you get the very specific instructions on mounting... 18 / 20 inch lbs, bias toward the front, you know the normal instructions that scope manufactures tell their clients...
Luckily for us, we know how to properly mount an optic so it doesn't move under recoil.
You should try it sometime. It's pretty cool stuff.
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LMAOOOOO, thats great info,, tell Special Purpose Rifles that, since i bought it as a package and they mounted it... Funny guy... You guys must wear out allot pants talking out your ass all the time...
Besides, i'm use to mounting scope according to the instructions.. Not the "special" over the phone instructions you get from ZCO... You know, don't use a Spuhr, only 18" lbs, biased to the front, metal to metal on one side of the rings and torque on the other side... Not like my NF... 25 inch lbs and shoot... ZCO does make it hard with the secret mounting technique they only tell the people with "minor" issues... you understand I'm sure..
You can call SPR and teach them, smart ass... After all "it was stated" ZCO only refunded them the wholesale amount of the scope so SPR had to eat the the rest, lots and lots of retailers will be lined up to carry their product knowing that... You all keep mentioning me and lying and I'll keep leaking the details, and all the PM's I have from the others with "minor" issues...
If you sent me a PM, don't worry i wont leak your names.. I wouldn't want you folks to deal with this too...
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Imagine being so insecure that you feel the need to come back into a thread to bash the company that bent over backwards to make you whole, including shipping three ways and a full refund, to somehow save face for a lack of basic mechanical aptitude.
I'm not sure where you come up with that... I've had a ton of scope in my life as I'm sure we all have... Never had an issue until now.. And they did say it had and issue!!! Just because you choose to ignore the details doesn't mean they didn't happen..
Bent over backward, you mean sending me replacement scope that had been mounted in several mounts and over torqued according to them to make sure it would work for me?? That kind of bending over backwards.. They did ultimately refund me everything so there is that.. I was out of the thread until i got a notification i was mentioned.. I guess i could just bow out and let you ding dongs believe whatever you want.. But its hard to sit here and listen to people say i mounted it wrong, when i didn't mount it... Or i lack mechanical aptitude when ZCO says it was broken.. I mean pay attention "Jefe's Dope". the facts are right in front of you...
And i paid the shipping on the second scope...
Keep going......
(Also, of course ZCO is only going to refund the wholesale price.....that's what they sold it for. Hence literally the word "refund.")
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Like I said…pages and pages ago….it’s not that customers aren’t allowed to have a complaint. The problem is that such complaints (and yes, we do remember you bashing ZCO and their shitty scopes) are utterly without context (like total fielded pop and field failure rate) and then they are beat it like a fucking drum, post after post.
Exactly what happened here.
You had your say…again, post after post. ZCO recently gave their perspective. THAT should have been the end of it.
But oh no, you have to respond some more and you just fucking have to be right and ZCO has to be wrong
Enjoy your NF. Enjoy your life. I don’t think I want anything more to do with you or your broad castigations of ZCO.
Exactly what happened here.
You had your say…again, post after post. ZCO recently gave their perspective. THAT should have been the end of it.
But oh no, you have to respond some more and you just fucking have to be right and ZCO has to be wrong
Enjoy your NF. Enjoy your life. I don’t think I want anything more to do with you or your broad castigations of ZCO.
Exactly. Sensible people confident in their mounting of the scope would just agree to disagree and move on. Calmly state why you disagree and leave it for consumers to read for themselves. When you start throwing a temper tantrum, everyone is just going to write you off.
He also seems to think people can't see his posts in other threads when he takes every chance to backhand ZCO, while claiming he's not in this thread.
I can't say anymore without outing a private conversation with SPR.. The guys that apparently need to learn how to mount scopes... ;-)
Oh, something is definitely leaking with you and not sure you can spare it
ZCO put it on a 50bmg and it held zero. So yes, there's a very good chance something wasn't mounted correctly on your end. Regardless of who mounted it. Spuhr mounts also have issues from time to time, like every other mount does.
We all make mistakes. Yours currently is the way you are throwing a hissy fit.
So what you're saying is you can comment all you want but I can't.. I must go away while you talk about me mounting my scope wrong, that i didn't mount.. or there was nothing wrong with the scope that ZCO says had and issue.. I'm suppose to just go away so you all can convince your selves it was all me and not the scope.. Ok...
Also, their perspective was "a minor issue that wouldn't result in the issue being reported". I was never told what that issue was, i don't have a right to know what that issue is, besides to much torque on a mount i didn't mount, or to much recoil, or the scope is very long and needs more support, or it was one from a bad batch!!! pffft
are you reading the comments towards me... I'm just supposed to give a thumbs up to all this BS.. Its not happening.. You all keep talking about me and I'm going to keep replying.. I have inside knowledge on how badly ZCO wants this to die and you all just keep bringing me into it.. Your hurting them more than I ever could by continuing to talk about it.. I was out and gone until you are brought me back.. Hate me,, cuss me, degrade me,, i dont care one bit.. Keep talking about me and i'm going to be right here... let me go and i'm gone...
to your comment about the 50, i understand that.. I didn't make the recoil, thing up.. that is (1) of the things mentioned to me.. Take it up with ZCO.. I didn't pull that out of my ass.. And the issue was Recoil + Scope length + rings cumulatively,,, X'2 except with a ZCO mount the second time..
Next...
Extremely mature way to handle this......
Gonna continue to watch this from the sidelines for entertainment. I think you've definitely said enough now that any consumers reading this have a pretty good idea where the problem is. Anyone with a reasonable view of reality can see you started this, not the other way around.
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Glad you approve... As opposed to others comments that are 100% professional..
Next...
you made me have to change my reaction with your edit.. sneaky..
I almost forgot.... Next...
It's not "sneaky." You're just triggered so much by words on a forum that you're reading and responding to things incessantly.
Advice you clearly won't take, you've now made yourself a target for trolling. People are going to start piling on very soon. Take a walk or don't read the thread for a few hours and calm down.
I'm not upset... I'm a retired police officer... There is no one on here that has that kind of effect on me.. My wife is sitting here shaking her head at me laughing at how easy you all are to annoy.. Frankly, i'm surprised the have banned me yet.. I'm sure its coming.
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Wow I would have thought you were an immature kid
Those of us either retired or currently LE just all let out a collective embarrassed sigh.
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I guess I'm getting pulled into this now.
We sold HTI-416 his rifle and the scope along with a Spuhr mount back in May of this year. We mounted up the Spuhr mount according to the instructions from Spuhr, keeping an equal gap on both sides of the ring cap. Torquing everything to spec. Recently those specs changed (months after we sold this scope). Now mounting a ZCO in a Spuhr, you are now to tighten the bottom ring cap to where it touches the scope mount. The scope ring caps are then tightened to 20 in lbs in an X pattern, not the previously specified 25 in lbs.
Below are the Spuhr mounting instructions for anyone who is curious.
We sold HTI-416 his rifle and the scope along with a Spuhr mount back in May of this year. We mounted up the Spuhr mount according to the instructions from Spuhr, keeping an equal gap on both sides of the ring cap. Torquing everything to spec. Recently those specs changed (months after we sold this scope). Now mounting a ZCO in a Spuhr, you are now to tighten the bottom ring cap to where it touches the scope mount. The scope ring caps are then tightened to 20 in lbs in an X pattern, not the previously specified 25 in lbs.
Below are the Spuhr mounting instructions for anyone who is curious.
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You also claim you didn't mount the scope but here you claim you did mount the scope.
I'm wondering what ZCO would say if I were to have the phone call recordings? I wonder if they would stand by that statement that nothing was wrong with the scope?? We shall see... More to come..
I mounted the second scope, in the ZCO mount.. SPR mounted the first scope per their statement below..You also claim you didn't mount the scope but here you claim you did mount the scope.
Try and keep up...
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I guess I'm getting pulled into this now.
We sold HTI-416 his rifle and the scope along with a Spuhr mount back in May of this year. We mounted up the Spuhr mount according to the instructions from Spuhr, keeping an equal gap on both sides of the ring cap. Torquing everything to spec. Recently those specs changed (months after we sold this scope). Now mounting a ZCO in a Spuhr, you are now to tighten the bottom ring cap to where it touches the scope mount. The scope ring caps are then tightened to 20 in lbs in an X pattern, not the previously specified 25 in lbs.
Below are the Spuhr mounting instructions for anyone who is curious.
I think you're the one having difficulty keeping up with your lies. You mounted the scope, you didn't mount the scope. They mounted the scope but you mounted the scope but it's not your fault because you didn't mount the scope...
you did see where SPR said they mounted the scope right?? get an adult in the room to read it for you.. And, in all honesty you have no credibility anyway. You offered to come mount my scope and i gave you coordinates and you never showed up, so your all talk... We wouldn't be here if you had just showed up and did what you said you were going to do..
I mounted the ZCO in the spuhr. The process of mounting the spuhr mount to the rifle has not changed and is pretty hard to mess up. I’m sure that the mount was mounted to the rifle correctly.
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Thank God he didn’t buy a Schmidt… Otherwise, I’d have to listen to all that crap in the Schmidt thread….
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I think the only way to settle this is to send the scope to an unaffiliated party for testing. I volunteer - the only thing being that my ZCO is lonely and needs a friend. An extended visit is requested.
Can we just get a new zco thread and burn this one to the ground?
Regularly scheduled crazy. Happens once or twice a year in this thread.
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