Member Link Up Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

[-Nick-]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

It's a nice Leupold. He's still learning how to reload and even when he used a chrono it was still saying around 2300-2400 fps. He's using good quality components so it has to be something in the load itself. Maybe I can convince him to come on here and give some details so you're not getting 10% of the information 3rd hand from someone who has no clue lol

 

[Unknown]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

Broker,
Usually, the velocity from a 24 inch barrel on a 308 using 168 grain bullet is 2600-2700 give or take. The 175-178 usually runs around 2600 unless it is a hot load. A 150-155 grain bullet runs around 2800fps. A 20 inch barrel will loose about 100 fps or so.

If the load is accurate enough to suit him, and the bullet goes as far as he needs to shoot, I wouldn't really worry about the velocity. I always prefer accuracy over velocity, and where I begin to want more velocity is when my bullet lacks enough velocity to go all the way out to the targets.

If your friend's rifle is accurate enough for him, and the load is good enough for the distances he shoots, I wouldn't concern myself too much about it.

However, if he really wants to have the potential to reach out further, then of course more velocity would be needed. I'll be happy to help out with chrono, load development, or in other ways to get his rifle reaching out further.

If he has the 20 inch barrel, chances are that he is going to be limited to around 800-900 yards. However, if he has a 1-10 twist, and goes to heavier bullets like a 178-200 grain, then his range can be extended.

If his SPS has a 1-10 twist, and 24 inch barrel, there is no reason he shouldn't be able to reasonably launch a 175-178 grain bullet at around 2600...maybe up to 2700 depending on whether he has a fast barrel, and which powder he uses.

Slower powders not effected by temperature like Varget, or 8208 would be the first powders I would consider.

 

[SSSamurai]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

I'm pretty familiar with the 20" .308s, and I usually end up around 2550-2575fps with 175 SMKs. He should be able to get those velocities and a little faster with 168s with no pressure signs at all. I've used loads with IMR 4064 @ 42.5gr, and Varget around 44gr, that were very accurate and consistent. The IMR was very temp sensitive though, that's why I switched to Varget.

If he continues to use 168s, and run them slow, he's going to severely limit himself at distance. They are notorious for getting inconsistent when they approach trans-sonic velocities. However, 175SMKs and 178s will go subsonic and stay consistent out past 1200 (IME) it just becomes a wind game to the extreme.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

He wants to join us up in Acme and get in the 1K+ range so I've already told him to move up to at least 175 SMK. I fairly certain the twist is 1-12 so he should have no issues. If I can get my 22" GAP-10 to 1k+ I don't see a 20" bolt having any issues as long as he's got some velocity. I know velocity isn't as important as accuracy, but lets be realistic in that >2400fps on a .308 bolt is ridiculously slow...

 

[wrhunter]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I went with a friend to the range to work up some dope for a .308 700 SPS tactical he has and some handloads with 168 AMAX he's been working on as he's new to reloading. His dope was 17MOA at 550 and way under 2400fps. Not sure what to tell him since I don't load, but <span style="font-weight: bold">I might try and convince AtOne since he's close by to work him a little bit</span>

lol. I will say one thing though... he shot three 5-round groups all solid .5 moa or better. After trying to do a 3/4" dot shooting and then trying groups I wanted to fall on a grenade since I can't seem to shoot for shit

</div></div>

Sounds like you were shooting at Nysqually. My 700 AAC-SD needed 13.75 to get on the clay pigeons at 550. Load is a 168 amax with 8208xbr. Came out to 2650fps using Shooter ballistics. I was surprised it was going that fast but confirmed the dope at 200, 300, 400 as well.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

We were at the UNSC. I'm a member there. Hopefully we'll be getting with some reloaders here this week and they can work out whats missing or needs improving. He's also going to bump it up to the 175 SMK so he can do some distance with us at the Acme get together coming up.

 

[Unknown]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

My laser says that the far berm at Nisqually's 550 yard range is closer to 540, but it is still plenty challenging shooting at clay birds at either distance.

I agree with Broker that a 308 achieving only 2400 fps in a 20 inch barreled bolt gun is very low...unless you are shooting 200 grain bullets. But as I understand it, they were using 168 grain bullets.

SSSamurai's comment about IMR powders being temperature sensitive is the same thing I found. My 300 Win mag gets 2960 fps with a 190 grain Sierra MK in the winter when temperatures are around 50-60 degrees F. I don't shoot it in the summer because velocity goes to around 3100 fps at 80-85 degrees F, and the bolt lift gets a wee bit sticky. I'll finish out the current lot of ammo during the winter, then will look for either a different powder, or reduce the powder charge from 68.5 to 67 grains in the summer.

The builder of the rifle had originally recommended 70 grains of IMR4350, but that was too hot for my liking, so I backed it off. Since then, I have gone through 3 barrels, and had barrel #4 set back once.

As for the bolt gun that started this thread, I would start thinking about powder like Varget or 8208, along with a 175 grain bullet.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

We've got quite a few but I'm hoping to get a lot more out here for this. Great opportunity to stretch your rifles legs out to 1250 yards. We also can collect the bags of trash and some people get a get free bronze memberships over at Northwestfirearms website.

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 26pt">Acme Clean-up & Lead Slinging Party</span></span>
Date: <span style="font-weight: bold">September 29th, 2012</span>
Time: <span style="font-weight: bold">0900-1700</span>
Place: <span style="font-weight: bold">Acme</span>
Mission: <span style="font-weight: bold">Clean up/Lane Maintenance & Target Demolition</span>

Attendees:
<ul style="list-style-type: disc">[*]Broker - Confirmed[*]Unknown - Confirmed[*]A D - Confirmed[*]TT - Confirmed[*]cobyb - Confirmed[*]bigwheels - Confirmed[*]akmike - Confirmed[*]TRD1911 - Confirmed[*]Seattle-lrs - Confirmed[*]bottomgun - Confirmed[*]squinty-andy - 90% Confirmed[*]unincsmr - Possible?[*]sacshooter - Possible?[*]abanks - Possible?[*]jcvibby - Flight Canceled[*]Market Garden - Fired for making other plans prior

[*]StanwoodSpartan - MIA[*]ryo - MIA[*]mjh - MIA[*]attherange?[*]SIG383?[*]SSSamurai?[*]Bennybooboo?[*]AtOne?[*]K9-?[*]Powderman?[*]MK12 MOD0 SPR?[*]Jetx4?[*]hunter121?[*]MStarmer?[*]Muttt?[*]WaGuns?[*]mattj?[*]HeathenRifleman?[*]tony27r?[*]captmo?[*]Lionsden?[*]TwentyFiveTwenty?[*]DAFAR ?[*]all Twisted?[*]OT-Medic?[*]zx2man?[*]joe1/75th?[*]TeamSendIt?[*]RBros?[*]beretta682?[*]Bedlam?[*]Boxerglocker?[*]ranger1183?[*]slm9s?[*]Tacreloader25?[*]Wintermute?[*]?[*]?[*]?[*]?[/list]

If I missed anyone well... life's full of disappointment

Just kidding... Let me know and I'll add you to the list.

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 14pt">Please post up confirmation of attendance for me so I can have enough supplies. I'll bring rolls of contractor trash bags. I figure we spend a few hours cleaning up and then spend 3-4 hours shooting. Who's with us?</span></span>

 

[mjh30]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

Xmark, it does seem that 8208XBR is giving higher velocities all around, plus a friend told me it meters well, burns real nice and is tem stable.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

mjh are you joining us on the 29th?

 

[mjh30]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

unfortunately I have a previous engagement, Scotts match is probably the next time I am going to get out. Did make to JIms 3-gun, but Kettle Falls was the only time I got out before that, this year has not been good for time off.

 

[TRD1911]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AtOne</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mjh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Broker, thats going real slow even with a 20 inch barrel. The round is going sub sonic ata about 950. What powder, primer and brass is he using. </div></div>

^^^What Marty said^^^
Accurate but slow for sure. </div></div>

Hey Guys,

I am the newby reloader that Broker was mentioning earlier. The day prior to going shooting together I tried a variety of 12 different loads and found two that were very accurate (@ 100m). Here are the loads that I chose -

168gr Hornady AMAX
41.3gn IMR 4064
CCI BR2 Primers
Military LC Brass

168gr Hornady AMAX
43gn Varget
CCI BR2 Primers
Remington Brass

2.800 OAL, Full resize, Factory crimp
Rifle - Rem700 SPS-T 20" 1:12RH

I'm using a Lyman 49th and a Hornady 8th for reloading data. Lyman seems to run hotter loads than the Hornady so I try to find a "safe" load and bracket around it for accuracy. I have read that the Military LC Brass has less powder space which then increases pressures so I decided to go with a low end load to start in 4064. I put a few rounds over the chrono since I didnt want to interfere with other guys on the line, It ranged from 2380-2400.
Varget was only listed in my Hornady manual and a max of 45.7g (compressed).
I recieved moderate accuracy with 178gr Hornady AMAX's at 100yards but didn't load any to try at further distances. It hadn't occured to me that it may take more range for it to stabilize a heavier round.

I'm also reading different reviews about whether a 20' w/ a 1:12 is able to go out past 750-800 with any decent accuracy. If anyone has differing opinions then I'm all ears and will take any load advice that you are willing to give and I will proceed at my own risk of course. Plus, I just ordered 1K 175gr SMK's in order to possibly get it right!

Thanks for the help.

 

[AtOne]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

Welcome TRD !

That looks like about the right velocity from a 20" barrel and the grain weights you we're using.

I show 2,481 with 43.5gn. Varget and 175smk, seated at 2.806 out of my 10 twist Savage 20".

The trick is trying to find the upper node in velocity that still shoots accurately.

With the 175's and a 20" 1-12 it will shoot to a 1,000.

I did message Broker that your more than welcome to come over and we can go over all your load info and we can also check your grains of H2O if you bring some fired cases with the spent primer still in them.

 

[AtOne]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

Just noticed you used a factory crimp die?
If that's the case...d.on't crimp and work your loads up again

 

[wrhunter]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mjh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Xmark, it does seem that 8208XBR is giving higher velocities all around, plus a friend told me it meters well, burns real nice and is tem stable. </div></div>

8208 meters great compared to Varget and RE15 which also shot great in my rifle.

 

[ssatt68]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

TRD,
You could also monkey around with OAL the heavier bullets like to be loaded longer. 2.80 is improtant for a gas gun especially if you are running P-mags, but for a bolt gun running AI based mags you can load them to 2.85 without any issues. Varget and 8208 are excellent powders and are both temp stable. It was mentioned earlier but is worth mentioning again. Finding the fastest load that still shoots is everything. I would take a .5 moa load/gun that is 200 fps faster over a .25 moa gun/load (smae bullet) any day of the week. Vel=accuracy at distance.

 

[TRD1911]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

Noted, Thanks.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AtOne</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just noticed you used a factory crimp die?
If that's the case...d.on't crimp and work your loads up again </div></div>

 

[TRD1911]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AtOne</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Welcome TRD !

That looks like about the right velocity from a 20" barrel and the grain weights you we're using.

I show 2,481 with 43.5gn. Varget and 175smk, seated at 2.806 out of my 10 twist Savage 20".

The trick is trying to find the upper node in velocity that still shoots accurately.

With the 175's and a 20" 1-12 it will shoot to a 1,000.

<span style="font-weight: bold">I did message Broker that your more than welcome to come over and we can go over all your load info and we can also check your grains of H2O if you bring some fired cases with the spent primer still in them.</span>
</div></div>

That would be great. I have some fire formed brass that I tried to do a neck-resize on but I'm not sure if my Lee die is jacked or human error. I'm leaning towards the latter on this one, ha. Let me know what to bring along and the three of us can figure out a good time to meet up. Thanks again.

 

[TRD1911]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: xmark</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mjh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Xmark, it does seem that 8208XBR is giving higher velocities all around, plus a friend told me it meters well, burns real nice and is tem stable. </div></div>

8208 meters great compared to Varget and RE15 which also shot great in my rifle. </div></div>

I actually had a 1lb container of 8208 in my hand while at sportco yesturday but decided to grab another unit of Varget (out of RE15). I should have diversified a bit.

Side question, where do you guys buy your components online? I've been told Midway, Brownells, Nachez...they dont seem to offer that much of a saving after shipping is included.

 

[TRD1911]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: ssatt68</div><div class="ubbcode-body">TRD,
You could also monkey around with OAL the heavier bullets like to be loaded longer. 2.80 is improtant for a gas gun especially if you are running P-mags, but for a bolt gun running AI based mags you can load them to 2.85 without any issues. Varget and 8208 are excellent powders and are both temp stable. It was mentioned earlier but is worth mentioning again. Finding the fastest load that still shoots is everything. I would take a .5 moa load/gun that is 200 fps faster over a .25 moa gun/load (smae bullet) any day of the week. Vel=accuracy at distance. </div></div>

I will definetly try this out. I tried bluing the end of a bullet (fancy talk for coloring it with a sharpy)to see how far I should seat off of the lands. Seating the bullet further forward would provide more room inside the brass allowing me to put a larger amount of powder in correct?

 

[Seattle-lrs]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

I'm looking to go to UNSC this Sunday (the 550 range is closed Sat). Anyone who is a member interested in going? There is no range officer that day so I need a member.

My ballisic computer didn't quite get my drop correct at 600 yards last weekend, so I'm going to do some chrono checking at Renton Fish and Game this Sat. On Sunday, I would like to go to UNSC and get correct ballistic drop rates for every 100 yards out to 550. Elk season starts for me in two weeks -I'm heading to New Mexico and those elk aren't waiting around for me to tweak my turrets 3/4 MOA to dial into the vitals.

Anyone interested in UNSC this Sunday?

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Seattle-lrs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'm looking to go to UNSC this Sunday (the 550 range is closed Sat). Anyone who is a member interested in going? There is no range officer that day so I need a member.

My ballisic computer didn't quite get my drop correct at 600 yards last weekend, so I'm going to do some chrono checking at Renton Fish and Game this Sat. On Sunday, I would like to go to UNSC and get correct ballistic drop rates for every 100 yards out to 550. Elk season starts for me in two weeks -I'm heading to New Mexico and those elk aren't waiting around for me to tweak my turrets 3/4 MOA to dial into the vitals.

Anyone interested in UNSC this Sunday? </div></div>

I'm a member. Let me talk to the wife and make sure nothing is on the schedule that day. I'll have to wrap it up no later than 2 though so I can get back in time to get ready for church.

 

[Seattle-lrs]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

I can be there whenever you want to start (early is ok).

 

[ssatt68]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

Powder valley but if you are only buying a lb at a time it ain't worth it because of hazardous shipping charges

 

[TRD1911]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

Once I get a reliable load I'll start buying in bulk. I've been sticking to the 1lb containers while testing out different recipes so I wont get stuck with a bunch of excess. They seem to have a good selection and the vast majority of it is in stock. Thank youf or the heads up.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

xmark are you available the 29th to join up with us all in Acme?

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mjh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">unfortunately I have a previous engagement, Scotts match is probably the next time I am going to get out. Did make to JIms 3-gun, but Kettle Falls was the only time I got out before that, this year has not been good for time off. </div></div>

All work and no play Marty... lol...

 

[wrhunter]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">xmark are you available the 29th to join up with us all in Acme? </div></div>

Thanks for the invite but unfortunately I work dayshift weekends right now. I do want to make it to the next Practical Rifle match at UNSC.

For TRD, nothing wrong with sticking with Varget. I'm sire you can find a good load with it before trying other powders.

 

[Unknown]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

I have the tentative course of fire for the October Match at UNSC pretty well thought out. But, if someone has some alternative ideas, I'm open to suggestions (polite ones about the match anyhow).

Round count: 73 if you don't miss (very unlikely)
Start time: 8am for orientation for all first time shooters, 10 am for the match
Entry fee: $20

"AtOne" made an excellent suggestion that I will be implementing for the next orientation. Rather than having everyone listen as I run through all the scoring system, penalties, and so on, I'll print them up and pass them out. This should shorten up the orientation time by about half.

Because of Civil Liability, the safety portion will have to be done. Hopefully, by implementing this will save us about an hour. IF the timing works out, in the future, we can change our timing around to suit the desires of the participants.

Stage 1. An Alvin York stage shot from far to near, with position changes.
Currently 13 rounds if you don't miss (unlikely).
Stage 2. Rooftop stage. Engage 6 targets from position #1, move to position
#2 on the rooftop and engage remaining targets. We will include
the mini targets that we received from JCSTEELTARGETS.COM in this
stage. Aprox size: 2x3 inch rectangle, and a 3x5 inch diamond,
for the mini targets: 16 rounds minimum
Stage 3. Supported seated, and supported kneeling. There will be two
positions, one for seated, one for kneeling, both offering some
additional support to steady the shooter. On start signal begin
engaging targets. If you have 2 consecutive misses, you have to
change to the other position. You may change back after taking
at least two shots from the new position. Engage targets front to
rear, then rear to front.
22 rounds minimum
Stage 4. The area between two of the concrete block shooting benches will
be roped off as the shooting area. Hit designated targets with the
soles of your feet on the ground inside the shooting box, you may
use the tops of the bench for support. Then engage the remaining
targets while seated, kneeling, squatting, offhand, or in some other
position inside the shooting box; you may brace against the bench,
or use any other readily available support while inside the shooting
box.
22 rounds
Time limit on all stages is 180 seconds.

Match is always on the 3rd saturday of each month. October's match is 20 October. If the orientation time is difficult for those traveling, let me know, and I can push it to 8:30am..

CORRECTED DATE FOR THE MATCH IS 20 OCTOBER. Thank you to AtOne (sincerely) for pointing out that error. It would truly suck for anyone (myself included) to show up on the wrong date.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

Hey guys, I want to give a quick shout out and recognition to Whistle Workwear in the Silverdale Mall. I stopped in with my Danner's which the eye-hole rivets for the laces were popping out. Not only did they ship them to Danner for me, but when Danner screwed up and neglected to ship the replacements the people at Whistle Workwear without hesitation gave me a new pair of boots and even threw in free water proofing and a free pair of thermal boot socks at ZERO cost to me. They were super friendly and apologetic which wasn't necessary as it was Danner's fault. I would highly recommend them to anyone looking for boots, work wear, etc.

 

[AtOne]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

Unknown looks like it should be a fun match !

You forgot to move the new shooter orientation a little further back in time to account for the additional time saved going over scoring

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

A lot of non-responders out there, lol... It's coming up this weekend. The more the merrier as this is an awesome place to meet-up with other local shooters, fondle different rifles

, and get some real distance/dope before hunting season and the December match. I'll be meeting anyone who is unfamiliar with how to get there at the Sedro-Woolley AMPM gas station at 0800 and on the road by 0830 that day. If you need my cell number please feel free to pm me.

Sedro-Wooley AMPM
830 Moore Street
Sedro-Woolley, WA 98284

<span style="font-weight: bold"><span style="font-size: 26pt">Acme Clean-up & Lead Slinging Party</span></span>
Date: <span style="font-weight: bold">September 29th, 2012</span>
Time: <span style="font-weight: bold">0900-1700</span>
Place: <span style="font-weight: bold">Acme</span>
Mission: <span style="font-weight: bold">Clean up/Lane Maintenance & Target Demolition</span>

Attendees:
<ul style="list-style-type: disc">[*]Broker - Confirmed[*]Unknown - Confirmed[*]A D - Confirmed[*]TT - Confirmed[*]cobyb - Confirmed[*]bigwheels - Confirmed[*]akmike - Confirmed[*]TRD1911 - Confirmed[*]Seattle-lrs - Confirmed[*]bottomgun - Confirmed[*]tony27r - Confirmed[*]squinty-andy - 90% Confirmed[*]unincsmr - Possible?[*]sacshooter - Possible?[*]abanks - Possible?[*]jcvibby - Flight Canceled[*]Market Garden - Fired for making other plans prior

[*]StanwoodSpartan - MIA[*]ryo - MIA[*]mjh - MIA[*]AtOne - MIA[*]WaGuns - MIA[*]xmark - MIA[*]attherange?[*]SIG383?[*]SSSamurai?[*]Bennybooboo?[*]K9-?[*]Powderman?[*]MK12 MOD0 SPR?[*]Jetx4?[*]hunter121?[*]MStarmer?[*]Muttt?[*]mattj?[*]HeathenRifleman?[*]captmo?[*]Lionsden?[*]TwentyFiveTwenty?[*]DAFAR ?[*]all Twisted?[*]OT-Medic?[*]zx2man?[*]joe1/75th?[*]TeamSendIt?[*]RBros?[*]beretta682?[*]Bedlam?[*]Boxerglocker?[*]ranger1183?[*]slm9s?[*]Tacreloader25?[*]Wintermute?[/list]

 

[Unknown]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AtOne</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Unknown looks like it should be a fun match !

You forgot to move the new shooter orientation a little further back in time to account for the additional time saved going over scoring

</div></div>


If I get a confirmation from anyone saying that starting the orientation at 8:30 rather than 8 AM would make a difference, I'll be happy to do that. I'll still have to be at the range before 8am though. So far, I haven't had any confirmations for orientation, but I have a number of confirmations for the match.

At the last match, we had that fellow show up about 5 minutes before 8am wanting to use the range so he could work up a load. He just didn't want to accept that there was a match going on even though it was on the club's website calendar. If I'm not there before the match, I could end up having a problem trying to clear people off the range. I would prefer to avoid that issue.

 

[WaGuns]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

Broker, I have family in town but I would like to help. Is there another clean up date or some supply's/hauling I can provide. I don't mind making a dump run to help support a shooting area.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

This is the first clean-up that I've ever scheduled for a group shoot, so nothing at the moment. We'll have to haul out whatever we pick-up that day, but I appreciate your offer. I'm gonna work out with Jeff a plan to take all the trash to the dump and then get him reimbursed for the cost. I can also take trash back to my place where I have a small dumpster.

 

[Unknown]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

Is there any interest within the Acme cleanup group of doing a group PIF after the cleanup? We could all bring some of the stuff we have around our gun rooms that would be appropriate for a PIF. After the cleanup is done, we could put all the items out, and draw lots to see who picks first, second and so on.

It might be fun, and a way to give/get some interesting outdoors related items..

If anyone else is interested, post on this thread and we can see how much interest there is. Broker says he can bring a table to put the things on..

 

[tony27r]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

Broker,

Yep, I'm planning on being there Saturday and contributing.

 

[Bigwheels]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

So what time is everyone meeting up there? And are we meeting up @ the 750yd spot. I have been up there a few times recently & have some things I'd like to see done. Some of it is gardening, so if you have a weed whacker or machette bring it.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

0900 Jeff... I'm meeting people at the Sedro-Woolley AMPM at 0800-0830. the 750yd spot is probably the easiest to start and then hit the surrounding areas.

 

[A D]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

I will bring my Stihl w/ saw blade,That should take care of any saplings, blackberry bramble etc.

 

[Unknown]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

I have a gas powered weed whacker, and a really good machette..

I'm wondering if our planned cleanup of junk is turning into a general work session though? It may chase off people who might just come out to pick up junk, but who don't want to do a ranger improvement work session.

 

[Unknown]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

I have a sunshade that won't fit any of my scopes. Free to whoever wants to pick it up..I just don't want to pay to ship it somewhere. I think it may have come off an old Pentax, or Nikon scope, but it has been around for so long I don't remember.

2.888 inches long (76.15mm)
1.930 inches outside diameter (49mm)
1.832 inches inside diameter (46.54mm)

One end has a small (about 3/16 inch) of fine threads. It will slip nicely over the outside of a 40mm Leupold scope, and I suppose you could simply tape it onto the outside to secure it if you would consider that.

 

[Bigwheels]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

There isn't much gardening to be done. Just needs done. Clearing some aulders @ the target points, & clearing the firing lane @ the 1250yd ffp. If we can figure a way, I'd like to build up the ffp @ 1250 so its more comfortable to shoot there, but if it doesn't get done, no big deal. I found a huge hornets nest right near the 1250 tgt @ the Y in the road. Black hornets too. About the size of a basketball. Don't know what I want to do about that yet. Probably nothing. I don't like to be swarmed by hornets.

 

[65guys_steve]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

Hi everyone, I've been hanging out on Snipers Hide for about a year and a half, and surprised I didn't stumble upon the community here. I also hangout on the other two local boards (SGN, WaGuns). I just wanted to introduce myself.

I've generally been doing must of my long range at Cascade shooting facilities where I'm a member, but their "long range" only goes out to 600, so I'd really like to go with you guys some time to try something a bit longer.

Among my rifles I have two long range precision weapons platforms. My normal shooter is a blue printed Remi 700 in 30-06 with a 26" Krieger 5R barrel. I have it at a shop right now to have a new Surefire brake put on and expect to have it back soon. A couple of weeks ago, I finally took delivery of a new custom 338LM rifle that took my gunsmith (Mike Bush at BlackOps Precision) almost a year to work its way through his shop. Last weekend I worked up some ladder test hand loads using 250Gr. HPBT Lapua Scenars and chronoed them. I'll have to go to the range at least one more time with some more test loads before I find the right recipe for this rifle.

I haven't had the time to read every post in this thread but it looks like there is a clean up outing this weekend, along with shooting after that?

If I wanted to come out and participate are we meeting at the Sedro Wooley AMPM gas station? Is anyone coming up from the south (Maple Valley/Covington/Kent)that might want to carpool?

 

[leadbullet]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

sorry guys, cannot make it this saturday, I apologize for dropping the ball.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

Flashfire I'll be meeting newcomers at the Sedro Woolley AMPM at 0900 in order to follow me up to the site.

 

[-Nick-]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Unknown</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I have a gas powered weed whacker, and a really good machette..

I'm wondering if our planned cleanup of junk is turning into a general work session though? It may chase off people who might just come out to pick up junk, but who don't want to do a ranger improvement work session. </div></div>

I never said it was just a "junk" clean-up and even said so in the mission. I said we'd spend a couple hours cleaning the area which includes cleaning up the brush that is over-growing the shooting areas. If someone here has decided not to join us based upon the idea that we're trying to protect and maintain our shooting areas then they would do well not to tell me about it. My opinion is if someone isn't willing to do their part to clean-up then I have to wonder whether they're doing their part to keep it clean in the first place.

 

[65guys_steve]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Flashfire I'll be meeting newcomers at the Sedro Woolley AMPM at 0900 in order to follow me up to the site. </div></div>

Thanks Broker for getting me oriented as the newb to the group. I'll plan to be there along with some pruning tools I have in the garage. By the way one of my cars is a Ford F150. It doesn't get great gas mileage so its a bit expensive to drive with current gas prices. Let me know if I should bring it in case you need extra help hauling stuff in/out.

Also - if anyone wants to car pool from the Kent/Covington/Maple Valley area. Just let me know.

 

[Seattle-lrs]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

A big thanks to Broker for helping me out this weekend! Not only did he drive out to meet me at UNSC, he took the time to spot my shots, help me understand some basic sniping fundamentals I was not doing (procedures for faster follow up shots to stay on target, and better arm positioning). I also dumped my ballistics program (iStrelok) in favor of Shooter after he showed me how it automatically alters velocity to match drop. THANKS! BTW: I changed my username from Seattle-LRS (stood for LongRangeShooter) to Seattle-LongRange. Somehow, multiple people on the hide thought I worked for the I.R.S. -- nope...I'm an I.T. guy in healthcare and I have nothing to do with the Internal Revenue Service or taxes. You're all safe.

 

[Unknown]

Re: Puget Sound Area Shooter's Group

I hadn't considered other pruning tools...Please let me know what would be useful.

Gas weed whacker
machette
pruning shears
pruning saw
ax
shovel
hedge trimmer (foot long shears)

and any other garden tool suggestions.

I also have a pruning pole lopper if someone wants to use it to dispose of the basketball sized hornet's nest from a distance. Last time I tried that it didn't work out really well...