Ruger Precision Rifle Discussion

[LongRangeLefty]

^ I’ve used both cheap and high end glass long range. With great glass comes great clarity. It’s not like it’s going to cancel out mirage. But even with mirage, great glass will still be sharper than cheap glass. Sure power, paralax, and other things come into play, but a better sight picture will be produced in just about all conditions with better glass. You get what you pay for I my experience.

 

[_Windrider_]

What scope are you purchasing as a replacement? Razor?

well like i said, probably leave it on the RPR and rebarrel to a 308 and build up another 6.5. i have a razer sitting here already that i could use on that but ill probably just stick with NF S&B and Kahles from now on. Im really liking the MSR reticles these days so S&B and Kahles are high on my list.

 

[Rumlover]

Anyone know if Ruger is considering a long action version?

 

[DRAGON64]

Just found this...

 

[straightshooter1]

Just found this...

Yeah, this was my experience with my .308 out of the box (3/4 MOA and sometimes better with factory ammo). But, like with anything that's in high production, not all are going to perform well.

 

[trob_205]

Yeah, this was my experience with my .308 out of the box (3/4 MOA and sometimes better with factory ammo). But, like with anything that's in high production, not all are going to perform well.

Listening to the podcast Franks big on if you get one that doesn’t shoot - rip it apart and put it back together “tight as shit” and it’ll shoot lol. Some barrels might walk, but from what I’ve dealt with selling these things is to give the factory barrels a chance. They do shoot.

 

[Bender]

My 6.5 cm RPR shot so good out of the box, I would cut the hands off anyone who tried to touch my barrel! AI it ain’t!!! But HOLY CRAP
THIS THING SHOOTS!!!

 

[LongRangeLefty]

^ Same here

 

[PhOnEpHrEaK]

Mine did until It died on me. But was 1/2 moa or better for the majority of its life

 

[straightshooter1]

Mine did until It died on me. But was 1/2 moa or better for the majority of its life

. . . and how long of a life was that??? And which caliber?

 

[LongRangeLefty]

My .308 is gonna go for quite some time. I’ve actually got a new back up barrel just waiting to go after that. 1/2 moa is fine for my standards and purposes. I’m good for a longggg time

 

[straightshooter1]

Likewise, my .308 barrel is going to last quite a while (mostly using mild loads) and now with a little over 2,300 rounds out of it, I'm still getting 1/2 MOA or better, which also meets my standard. But. . . there's room for improvement. So I'm going to get a good high end barrel to mount and keep the factory barrel as a backup. There's two issues I want to improve on: a barrel that isn't affected as much by the hot summer days of triple digit degrees and one that has longer nodes for variations in ammo.

 

[PhOnEpHrEaK]

. . . and how long of a life was that??? And which caliber?

It was a 6.5 creed; it died on me during a match at about 3300 rounds. 300 factory ELDs, 800 140 RDFs over 43.0 grains of 4350, and 2200 of 140 ELDs over the same.

 

[trob_205]

It was a 6.5 creed; it died on me during a match at about 3300 rounds. 300 factory ELDs, 800 140 RDFs over 43.0 grains of 4350, and 2200 of 140 ELDs over the same.

Damn. I’ll be happy with 3300 with 6.5CM. If you don’t mind me asking What was your velocity with the 140 ELD handloads?

 

[straightshooter1]

It was a 6.5 creed; it died on me during a match at about 3300 rounds. 300 factory ELDs, 800 140 RDFs over 43.0 grains of 4350, and 2200 of 140 ELDs over the same.

Thanks for your response. I kind of thought that might be the case, but I hate to guess. 3300 rounds through a 6.5CR is really good life span from what I hear and to get that out of a factory barrel . . . awesome.

Looks like you like and must be doing well with 140 ELDs to have put so many down your tube. I've hear from many others that the 140 ELDs work extremely well in their 6.5CRs.

 

[PhOnEpHrEaK]

My load was; hornady brass trimmed to 1.910, 43.0 grains of H4350 Br-2 primers, oal of 2.8; but grew to 2.815 by the end to chase the lands (they say the ELD is best with a .055 jump). I averaged 2811fps with 6 SD and 13 ES; up until somewhere over the 3300 mark when she gave out of me in which case i was at 2720ish with 14.7 SD and 53 ES with the same load, and same lot numbers on everything. The issue was the impacts were all over the place at 400+, but would still bughole at 100.

Now I have a 24" LRI throated for 140 ELDs on the way; so I'm looking forward to seeing the difference.

 

[Bender]

My load was; hornady brass trimmed to 1.910, 43.0 grains of H4350 Br-2 primers, oal of 2.8; but grew to 2.815 by the end to chase the lands (they say the ELD is best with a .055 jump). I averaged 2811fps with 6 SD and 13 ES; up until somewhere over the 3300 mark when she gave out of me in which case i was at 2720ish with 14.7 SD and 53 ES with the same load, and same lot numbers on everything. The issue was the impacts were all over the place at 400+, but would still bughole at 100.

Now I have a 24" LRI throated for 140 ELDs on the way; so I'm looking forward to seeing the difference.

Factory barrel?

 

[PhOnEpHrEaK]

Factory barrel?

Yes; the only Mod is that I put a PRS on it.

 

[ViP]

Is there a new Gen 3 RPR 6.5CM coming out?

 

[PhOnEpHrEaK]

Is there a new Gen 3 RPR 6.5CM coming out?

I think the only difference is that it’s an mlok rail

 

[ViP]

I think the only difference is that it’s an mlok rail

Don’t they have a Gen 2 with an M-Lok rail?

 

[DFC]

The official gen 2 has a key-mod handguard. The new rifle has a M-lok. I have one of the new rifles and thats the only difference.

 

[V-Ref]

RPR design (ie Tubb 2000) eliminates many sources of stress found in a chassis/improperly bedded stocked rifle. Short bolt throw, takes ARC mags, user adj LOP, my Timney is tuned to a field reliable 10oz pull, piles of aftermarket support, prefit barrels everywhere.

I think you can spend a lot more money on a different platform, and not achieve the same level of performance on the target, regarding the RPR.

If Ruger had decided to design it to accommodate a mag bolt face/long action, ...who knows what thier market share would've been.

 

[Kwe1982]

Just got my 223 RPR out today, put a Timney trigger on it, man that trigger is real nice.

My only complaints are the plastic mags, maybe they'll get better after they wear in a bit and the aluminum on the bottom edge of butt stock has kind of a sharp edge on it. Otherwise great gun, groups were alright seeing how its 20 mile winds here.

 

[LongRangeLefty]

^ Nice! Make sure you got the plastic guard that snaps on the rail on the bottom of the butt stock. It really takes the edge off

 

[Mrfjones]

Does anyone make a replacement bolt? I ask because I’d like to get a third rpr and convert it to something like 6mm br or 6.5 grendel.

 

[Mrfjones]

Just got my 223 RPR out today, put a Timney trigger on it, man that trigger is real nice.

My only complaints are the plastic mags, maybe they'll get better after they wear in a bit and the aluminum on the bottom edge of butt stock has kind of a sharp edge on it. Otherwise great gun, groups were alright seeing how its 20 mile winds here.

I got a 223 gunsite scout mag for mine, and i’ll get another so i have at least 2. They are heavy but feel much better. I also put a prs on mine so no more sharp edges.

 

[_Windrider_]

Does anyone make a replacement bolt? I ask because I’d like to get a third rpr and convert it to something like 6mm br or 6.5 grendel.

Well correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t 6mm at least use the same bolt? Probably 6.5 Grendel as well. In fact I’m almost positive they all have the same bolt as the 308

 

[Griz44Mag]

6.5 Grendel was designed to run in an AR (5.56) The cartridge base is NOT the same, the bolt will not work. The 6.5 Creedmoor is the same parent case as the .308, so yes, it will work in either.

 

[Mrfjones]

Well correct me if I’m wrong but doesn’t 6mm at least use the same bolt? Probably 6.5 Grendel as well. In fact I’m almost positive they all have the same bolt as the 308

They use the same bolt face as a 7.62x39. If i recall correctly it’s .03 of an inch smaller in diameter than the 308 bolt face.

 

[trob_205]

Does anyone make a replacement bolt? I ask because I’d like to get a third rpr and convert it to something like 6mm br or 6.5 grendel.

https://www.longriflesinc.com/colle...6-5mm-creedmoor-140grain-a-max-143grain-eld-x

6BR shouldn’t be an issue with standard bolt according to LRI chambering list. 6.5 Grendel I’m going guess is a no go.

 

[_Windrider_]

They use the same bolt face as a 7.62x39. If i recall correctly it’s .03 of an inch smaller in diameter than the 308 bolt face.

Well there ya go.

 

[Mrfjones]

https://www.longriflesinc.com/colle...6-5mm-creedmoor-140grain-a-max-143grain-eld-x

6BR shouldn’t be an issue with standard bolt according to LRI chambering list. 6.5 Grendel I’m going guess is a no go.

Sorry, it was the 6 ppc i was thinking about, the 6br is a cut down 308 case.

 

[PhOnEpHrEaK]

For those who are wondering; removing the factory barrel is a pain..

 

[_Windrider_]

For those who are wondering; removing the factory barrel is a pain..

It seems everything factory is a pain. When I changed my hand guard the factory barrel nut was near impossible to move. Same with muzzle brake. Omg I thought it was welded on or something.

 

[GSPKurt]

I had to go with Warne Xtra high 30mm rings for my Sightron SIII 8-32x56 to clear my G2 handguard.

 

[pell1203]

It seems everything factory is a pain. When I changed my hand guard the factory barrel nut was near impossible to move. Same with muzzle brake. Omg I thought it was welded on or something.

I agree! Tried taking the muzzle brake off using a home setup and could not apply enough force to break it apart. Ruger said they torque them to 15 foot-lbs. I used a 2' bar/lever trying to spin it off and applied a hell of a lot more force than 15 ft-lbs. It would not budge and I didn't have enough hands to hold the two opposing wrenches and use a hammer to tap on muzzzle brake all at the same time.

Decided to take it to my gunsmith instead and make it HIS problem! May be the best $45 I've ever spent!

I'm hoping a proper barrel vise, a touch of differential heating, a few hammer taps, and a set of augmented wrenches will solve the problem!

 

[LongRangeLefty]

For those who are wondering; removing the factory barrel is a pain..

Seems like I got a factory freak. I have completely disassembled my gen 1 no problem at all.

Just curious, as I haven’t had the problem, if the barrel will thread out of the receiver with the nut practically welded to the barrel still, could you just install a new barrel with a new nut?

 

[Terry H]

Seems like I got a factory freak. I have completely disassembled my gen 1 no problem at all.

They've hired a bunch of new gorillas with pipe wrenches since they built the Gen1's.

 

[trob_205]

My gen 2 brake came right off after realizing how it worked lol havnt got a chance to change the handguard tho.

 

[LongRangeLefty]

^ Removing just the handguard itself is super easy. Lining the nuts up right for the bushings that the handguard then has to slide onto after swapping a barrel can be a pain in the ass

 

[Forward543]

Has anyone had their rpr lock up from dust and dirt?

 

[LongRangeLefty]

^ I clean mine every 200 rounds, and will probably move to less often, and it has always been a smooth operator. (About 2500 rounds now through the gen 1 .308)

 

[PhOnEpHrEaK]

Has anyone had their rpr lock up from dust and dirt?

No issues from mine and I think it I cleaned it twice in a year and I shoot in a rock quarry which is mostly sand

 

[DRAGON64]

I realize there may be other options out there, but I picked up an AI "Bob Sled" single shot adapter so that I can single load at the range. Anyone else use this device?

 

[LongRangeLefty]

I realize there may be other options out there, but I picked up an AI "Bob Sled" single shot adapter so that I can single load at the range. Anyone else use this device?

I don’t have the adaptor but I use the actual bob sled. I really like them. Very smooth

 

[DRAGON64]

The cheapest I could find was $38 at EABCO: https://www.eabco.net/Original-Bob-...ational-RPR-CDI-Badger-Mag-Wells_p_14907.html

 

[kdarcy]

What about bore guides, are there any specific for the rpr? What are people using?

 

[Phil G]

Lucas bore guides are great. Mine fit my Dewey cleaning rod and my Ruger RPR perfectly. Lucas email is [email protected]

Phil G

 

[ChrisH56]

What about bore guides, are there any specific for the rpr? What are people using?

I have one from Mike Lucas but they are kind of pricey. $72.00 including shipping (2016 price). You have to email him since he doesn't have a web site. You will have to send him a check before it ships and supply him with the diameter of your cleaning rod so the guide will fit your rod.
Let me know if you want his email address.