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[TEAMSENDIT]

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remember there is a huge difference between carbine and precision carbine matches. when you hear the word precision think bolt gun type accuracy pinpoint shots not minute of a man.

 

[AtOne]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">168 FGMM SMK...

Wholesale Sports(Silverdale, WA) $38.99
Ammo Surplus (Lakewood, WA) $24.99

WTF?! </div></div>

Broker save some money and mail order what you need from Palmetto Statee Armory at $17.99 a box !

http://www.palmettostatearmory.com/1120.php

 

[Jim the Plumber]

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Ill go into more detail later but the carbine stuff will be geared toward fast and close only a few longer shots to 350'ish. All know distant. The longer carbine shots will have bigger steel. The Ironman perverted my thinking .....

 

[-Nick-]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AtOne</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">168 FGMM SMK...

Wholesale Sports(Silverdale, WA) $38.99
Ammo Surplus (Lakewood, WA) $24.99

WTF?! </div></div>

Broker save some money and mail order what you need from Palmetto Statee Armory at $17.99 a box !

http://www.palmettostatearmory.com/1120.php</div></div>

I plan on it next time. I was impatient this time around lol...

 

[-Nick-]

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Now I just need to have a few deals go through so I can pick-up my optics...

 

[mjh30]

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Damn Broker, what length barrel you running, looks sharp

 

[mkollman74]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now I just need to have a few deals go through so I can pick-up my optics...

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Specs???

 

[-Nick-]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mkollman74</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now I just need to have a few deals go through so I can pick-up my optics...

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Specs??? </div></div>


GAP-10
22" 1-11 5R Bartlein Stainless Match barrel
POF Sniper/Hunter Handguard
Magpul PRS Stock & Grip FDE
POF Big Handle with Badger Ordnance Tac-Latch
Single Stage Match trigger, tuned to 3 1/2 pounds
Surefire 7.62SSAL Muzzle Brake
Troy Battle Sights Micro FDE
Harris 6-9" BRMS
Badger TRAMP (Sending back because it doesn't clamp tight)

Since it's being used in more of a range environment I went longer on the barrel. I still need to pick up a USO 3.2-17 when I get the funds. In the mean time I'll put some down range with good ole BUIS and watch the other people look at me like "Wtf?" Lol...

To Be Purchased and added later...
Accu-shot monopod
Surefire FA762SS
USO SN-3 or T-Pal 3.2-17
Badger 20MOA Unimount

 

[*Nine]

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Oh man, I'm excited to get out and shoot tomorrow!

 

[6.5 sender]

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hey all, checking from the dry side.

 

[*Nine]

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Welcome. There are a bunch of guys here over on your side.

 

[mjh30]

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Craig a black beauty

 

[mjh30]

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Broker, are you running a carbine or mid length gas system. If its carbine length, any reason for running length. Its probably just the 22 inch barrel deceiving me.

 

[*Nine]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mjh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Craig a black beauty</div></div> Thanks! I'm heading out tomorrow to start working up a load.

 

[blurry6]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">


GAP-10
22" 1-11 5R Bartlein Stainless Match barrel
POF Sniper/Hunter Handguard
Magpul PRS Stock & Grip FDE
POF Big Handle with Badger Ordnance Tac-Latch
Single Stage Match trigger, tuned to 3 1/2 pounds
Surefire 7.62SSAL Muzzle Brake
Troy Battle Sights Micro FDE
Harris 6-9" BRMS
Badger TRAMP (Sending back because it doesn't clamp tight)

Since it's being used in more of a range environment I went longer on the barrel. I still need to pick up a USO 3.2-17 when I get the funds. In the mean time I'll put some down range with good ole BUIS and watch the other people look at me like "Wtf?" Lol...

To Be Purchased and added later...
Accu-shot monopod
Surefire FA762SS
USO SN-3 or T-Pal 3.2-17
Badger 20MOA Unimount




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NICE rig,... but how much will that thing weigh?,... I'm guessin' 18+lbs

Ry

 

[-Nick-]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: mjh</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Broker, are you running a carbine or mid length gas system. If its carbine length, any reason for running length. Its probably just the 22 inch barrel deceiving me. </div></div>

Rifle Length I believe...

 

[-Nick-]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blurry6</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Broker</div><div class="ubbcode-body">


GAP-10
22" 1-11 5R Bartlein Stainless Match barrel
POF Sniper/Hunter Handguard
Magpul PRS Stock & Grip FDE
POF Big Handle with Badger Ordnance Tac-Latch
Single Stage Match trigger, tuned to 3 1/2 pounds
Surefire 7.62SSAL Muzzle Brake
Troy Battle Sights Micro FDE
Harris 6-9" BRMS
Badger TRAMP (Sending back because it doesn't clamp tight)

Since it's being used in more of a range environment I went longer on the barrel. I still need to pick up a USO 3.2-17 when I get the funds. In the mean time I'll put some down range with good ole BUIS and watch the other people look at me like "Wtf?" Lol...

To Be Purchased and added later...
Accu-shot monopod
Surefire FA762SS
USO SN-3 or T-Pal 3.2-17
Badger 20MOA Unimount




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NICE rig,... but how much will that thing weigh?,... I'm guessin' 18+lbs

Ry</div></div>

Not sure, but it's not as bad as you'd think. A few operators were playing around with it and commented it was lighter than they expected, but it's definitely not petite. I'll see about getting it on a scale sometime soon. Besides, I need the exercise lol...

 

[Tribe]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">The Ironman perverted my thinking .....
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So you're going to pin it on the Ironman 'aye....!?!?

Fellas, quit sweatin' it.... it's just going to be a blast, chucking a bunch of rounds at steel, with the heart rate up a bit!

...I'm going to be rocking a frickin' stock Robinson XCR in 5.56... can't wait... gonna scare the hell out of ALL that steel!

 

[mjh30]

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Crikey,, it fooled the bejesus out of me broker time to get the eyes testedi, it reply looked short, that's why I asked, sure does look pretty though.

 

[mattj]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ill go into more detail later but the carbine stuff will be geared toward fast and close only a few longer shots to 350'ish. All know distant. The longer carbine shots will have bigger steel. The Ironman perverted my thinking .....
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!

 

[-Nick-]

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The hand guard is 11 3/4". The muzzle brake makes it look shorter too. I'll work on getting a better side profile shot when the rain lets up...

 

[*Nine]

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I got out today and started on some loads in the 7WSM shooting the 180 SMKs. The extra throat length in my barrel as well as it being built on a long action are great, and they let me really pack the case with powder to take advantage of the melonited bore. With 68 grains of H4831SC I managed to send a 180 SMK over 3100 fps. There were the beginnings of pressure signs there though, so I backed it down to 66.5 grains and it looks like it's going to shoot pretty well right there, and I'm still seeing 3040fps with the 180s.

 

[Bigwheels]

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Sounds great MG. I'm going out tomorrow (weather permitting) to do a ladder test with the 225's, & H-1000. I want to see if I can match the velocity of the Retumbo with a little more room to spare. Then I may go for 1950yd again just 'cause. I need to do some clearing around the tgt's anyway. Damn Fire Weed!!! May Day went out for a little while yesterday, & shot the 500yd tgt's through the weeds. Sounded like fun.

 

[blurry6]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Market Garden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I got out today and started on some loads in the 7WSM shooting the 180 SMKs. The extra throat length in my barrel as well as it being built on a long action are great, and they let me really pack the case with powder to take advantage of the melonited bore. With 68 grains of H4831SC I managed to send a 180 SMK over 3100 fps. There were the beginnings of pressure signs there though, so I backed it down to 66.5 grains and it looks like it's going to shoot pretty well right there, and I'm still seeing 3040fps with the 180s. </div></div>

That's screamin' for sure! You're gonna be hearing the steel ring past 1500! Is it accurate?

 

[*Nine]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: blurry6</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Market Garden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I got out today and started on some loads in the 7WSM shooting the 180 SMKs. The extra throat length in my barrel as well as it being built on a long action are great, and they let me really pack the case with powder to take advantage of the melonited bore. With 68 grains of H4831SC I managed to send a 180 SMK over 3100 fps. There were the beginnings of pressure signs there though, so I backed it down to 66.5 grains and it looks like it's going to shoot pretty well right there, and I'm still seeing 3040fps with the 180s. </div></div>

That's screamin' for sure! You're gonna be hearing the steel ring past 1500! Is it accurate?</div></div> I'll be sorting that out this coming week. I only had a few rounds left after chronoing and it was pissing rain, but I had no trouble keeping them inside a 1" circle at 100 yards while I was laying on rocks. I'm going to hit up my local range and work on seating depths and fine tuning and I anticipate no problems with accuracy.

 

[Mayday]

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thanks for bring it up Jeff. that reminded me to re-zero my turrets.

 

[Mayday]

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anyone interested in some 210 Bergers. I'm looking at selling off a few boxs and figured i would give you guys first dibs. here is what i got.

275 Hunting VLDs $110
99 Target VLDs $39

all 3 boxes of the Hunting are matching lot #'s.

 

[DIBBS]

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Just in case you missed it, Midway is selling hornady blems/seconds at decent prices:


http://www.midwayusa.com/Promotion/?prom...special42020103

 

[Sportin Wood]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Dibbs</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just in case you missed it, Midway is selling hornady blems/seconds at decent prices</div></div>

May be a dumb question, but to be a second something has to be wrong. Are thye still accurate and worth picking up??

 

[DIBBS]

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Stanwood-most are cosmetic blemishes. Occasionally you'll get a bad tip, but my experience has been that they shoot just as good as firsts. You may have to toss a few from your visual inspection-but I think they're a good buy.

 

[RBros]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Market Garden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I got out today and started on some loads in the 7WSM shooting the 180 SMKs. The extra throat length in my barrel as well as it being built on a long action are great, and they let me really pack the case with powder to take advantage of the melonited bore. With 68 grains of H4831SC I managed to send a 180 SMK over 3100 fps. There were the beginnings of pressure signs there though, so I backed it down to 66.5 grains and it looks like it's going to shoot pretty well right there, and I'm still seeing 3040fps with the 180s. </div></div>

You might give H1000 a try as well. My new one is running the 180 Bergers at 3050fps in a 26" barrel as well. 66 gr of H4831SC also gets me in the 3025fps range. The H1000 just does it with a little less pressure is all and is more stable than the H4831.

 

[*Nine]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: 7mmAM</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Market Garden</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I got out today and started on some loads in the 7WSM shooting the 180 SMKs. The extra throat length in my barrel as well as it being built on a long action are great, and they let me really pack the case with powder to take advantage of the melonited bore. With 68 grains of H4831SC I managed to send a 180 SMK over 3100 fps. There were the beginnings of pressure signs there though, so I backed it down to 66.5 grains and it looks like it's going to shoot pretty well right there, and I'm still seeing 3040fps with the 180s. </div></div>

You might give H1000 a try as well. My new one is running the 180 Bergers at 3050fps in a 26" barrel as well. 66 gr of H4831SC also gets me in the 3025fps range. The H1000 just does it with a little less pressure is all and is more stable than the H4831.</div></div>

I tried H1000, and with 67 grains I only saw 2953. 67 grains was just getting to be a compressed load, though I could probably get a little more in there. I only loaded rounds up to 67 grains with the H1000 to test though, and I didn't try to put any more after that figuring that even if I got a little more in I wouldn't pick up another ~100fps.

I headed back to my crappy local range to shoot my 4831 loads and they seem to give me very little vertical dispersion, but I did get a lot of horizontal, which I blame on the fact that the "benches" that you are forced to shoot from wobble significantly if you lean against them at all. I'm going to head to a proper range where I can shoot prone this weekend and gather some more data before the JTP match on the 30th.

 

[-Nick-]

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I just put the Badger Tactical Rapid Adjustment Mounting Point (TRAMP) for a Harris Bipod up for sale that I recently bought and didn't care for. If there's someone local that's interested and wants to meet FTF I'd sell it to them for $60. I'm in Silverdale/Bremerton. I'm always out and about though and between Gig Harbor and Kingston...

 

[JLR]

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Hey guys, Jim and I will be getting together this week and hammering out the details on the upcoming match so there should be some more information shortly. As always, it'll be a fun AND challenging match for sure....

 

[Mayday]

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Can't wait. This will be my first pistol/carbine match ever. Be prepared to watch me fumble around, but it will be a great learning experience.

 

[Jim the Plumber]

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OK guys. We did a little more stage work tonight. Minimum round counts : pistol 150, carbine 120, rifle 35.
Long shot on the rifle ~600. Carbine, from contact to ~350.
Pistol.... well, bring a lot of mags
Still have a couple of spots I need to fill, so drag your buddies over!

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Jim the Plumber</div><div class="ubbcode-body">OK guys. We did a little more stage work tonight. Minimum round counts : pistol 150, carbine 120, rifle 35.
Long shot on the rifle ~600. Carbine, from contact to ~350.
Pistol.... well, bring a lot of mags
Still have a couple of spots I need to fill, so drag your buddies over!</div></div>

if anybody will let me borrow some gear i might be down but i only have 2 mags for my sig x5 no holster.

 

[*Nine]

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Jim, will the pistol portion be set up like it was at the Findlay Cup? Do we have to wear the pistol the whole match, or can we just put it on for the pistol part.

TSI: Assuming we don't have to wear the pistol the whole time, and you're right-handed I have a Glock 19 setup that I am going to use that I will let you use when you shoot. You just supply the factory ammo that you'll use.

 

[JLR]

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You won't need to wear the pistol the whole match, but you will need a decent holster that will keep it held while running. If you choose to wear it when not needed and it falls out your day will likely end in a DQ. We'll have a safety area at each of the firing points where you can stash your extra guns that aren't being used for that COF.

Scoring for this match will be some form of time + penalties similar to USPSA scoring, we just haven't figured out how much the penalties are going to cost you yet. Likely 5 sec for a failure to neutralize (target with insufficient hits) and 10 sec for a failure to engage. Since it's all based on time, shoot fast and a lot as the only two things that matter are hits and time.

As far as the high volume pistol COF, it'll likely be around 75 rounds.....and it's ok if your buddies load mags while you shoot. Remember, this is a fun match.

 

[Pat M]

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SOLD to Mayday
<span style="text-decoration: line-through">I have an extra room, if some one needs a place to crash
(Cashmere, 1/2 hour to the range)</span>

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

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alright guys you suckered me in, now i need a recommendation for a red dot or sometype of 3 gun style sites for my ar 15.

Also i know this is crazy but did any of you guys stock pile 223 pmags i could use a few extras.

 

[JLR]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Team-Send-It!!!</div><div class="ubbcode-body">alright guys you suckered me in, now i need a recommendation for a red dot or sometype of 3 gun style sites for my ar 15.

Also i know this is crazy but did any of you guys stock pile 223 pmags i could use a few extras.</div></div>

I'd run some version of a 1-4x scope. That's the best compromise I've seen.

 

[*Nine]

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I can bring some extra pmags if you want to borrow them.

As for a sight, I run a Nightforce 1-4 on my AR, but if you're looking to go with a red dot Aimpoints are pretty much the standard.

 

[JLR]

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My choice would be the new Vortex red dots. Way cheaper than the Aimpoints.

 

[TEAMSENDIT]

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how about this one jesse? great on my budget

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=241590081

 

[JLR]

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For a red dot I'd personally go with the SPARC, and magnified I'd go with the PST 1-4x with either MOA or MIL reticle whichever you prefer.

 

[mattj]

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: JLR</div><div class="ubbcode-body">You won't need to wear the pistol the whole match, but you will need a decent holster that will keep it held while running. If you choose to wear it when not needed and it falls out your day will likely end in a DQ. We'll have a safety area at each of the firing points where you can stash your extra guns that aren't being used for that COF.

Scoring for this match will be some form of time + penalties similar to USPSA scoring, we just haven't figured out how much the penalties are going to cost you yet. Likely 5 sec for a failure to neutralize (target with insufficient hits) and 10 sec for a failure to engage. Since it's all based on time, shoot fast and a lot as the only two things that matter are hits and time.

As far as the high volume pistol COF, it'll likely be around 75 rounds.....and it's ok if your buddies load mags while you shoot. Remember, this is a fun match.</div></div>

This. Is. Going. To. Be. So. AWESOME

 

[Daps!]

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Is there room in the match on the 30th? I'm thinking about going.

 

[RBros]

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Pretty sure there is still room at the match. I'm sure Jim will chime in here at some point.

 

[JLR]

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<------ Obviously not JTP, but there is still room to get in. Come on over and have some fun!!