Rifle Scopes SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

#1,451
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trevor300wsm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I got an update from SWFA.......

It was to let me know they had 31 and 33 round KCI knock-off Glock mags in stock for 39.99 and 49.99 at very respectable 100% MARK UP over normal retail of $19.99.

Glad to see they are taking care of the shooting community............. </div></div>

Oh shit...
 
#1,452
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: boone</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Trevor300wsm</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I got an update from SWFA.......

It was to let me know they had 31 and 33 round KCI knock-off Glock mags in stock for 39.99 and 49.99 at very respectable 100% MARK UP over normal retail of $19.99.

Glad to see they are taking care of the shooting community............. </div></div>

Oh shit... </div></div>

I got an ad also.

I wonder if you get an extended warranty with those mags for twice the price. The two 33 rnd KCI mags I bought dont work worth shit til yuu get down to about 20 rounds. Not a big improvement over the 17 round glock mags.

Anyway, back on topic... how's that group buy working out for ya?
 
#1,454
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: borefodder</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: BW88</div><div class="ubbcode-body">AS thought of possible delivery dates grows nearer, I had an epiphany:

Man, I'm going to miss this thread once it goes away--once orders are filled...(enter sarcastic comment of your choice here). Checking in daily on the "SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy" for entertainment value; anticipating the slightest chance of NEW information being released; watching the back and forth banter between the characters that lurk on this thread. What fun it has been getting to know those vocal members who post their 1-6 comments on a regular basis. This soap opera has become part of my life and I'm going to miss anticipating new posts on this thread once it goes away.

If only we could figure out how to make it go on and on...</div></div>

I don't think you have to worry about this thread ending anytime soon. SWFA is doing a masterful job of keeping it going "on and on" with no end in site. Until I either see an official update from them (yeah right) or someone posting pics of it in their <span style="text-decoration: line-through">sticky</span> <span style="color: #FF9900">old dead </span> hands, I'm still going to believe they are no closer now then they were back in in October. Hope they prove me wrong. </div></div>

There, fixed it for ya'.
 
#1,455
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: swamp2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: RHutch</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Who's calling it a $600-$700 scope?
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Bedlam. $600 in the context I was using (others referred to the "cost" as about $700 with the combo group buy). 3 posts up quoted and then about 25 up for the OP.</div></div>
Thank you for mentioning the context; it is important. I consider it a more than $1000 scope in value. Well, assuming it holds up in quality to the rest of the SS HD line.

$600/$700 is the cost of ownership for those planning to flip the 5-20 for a couple hundred below retail.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hotbrass</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Here is a picture of the new reticle:</div></div>
OH THE UNIMAGINABLE CRUELTY!!!
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#1,456
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

I just thought I would let you whining Jabroni's know that Chis Farris just posted on the 1-6 thread on optics talk that they would be shipping tomorrow.
Turret covers will be shipped at a later date.
 
#1,458
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WACADOO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just thought I would let you whining Jabroni's know that Chis Farris just posted on the 1-6 thread on optics talk that they would be shipping tomorrow.
Turret covers will be shipped at a later date. </div></div>

I will only believe it when someone posts their own pics here within about 5 days max. Otherwise another big lie.

I suppose we are also supposed to believe that turret covers are a long lead time type of item. I'll happily accept and use my 1-6 without them but it's pretty chintzy to ship the products incomplete.

The drama really doesn't even seem to diminish.
 
#1,460
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WACADOO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just thought I would let you whining Jabroni's know that Chis Farris just posted on the 1-6 thread on optics talk that they would be shipping tomorrow.
Turret covers will be shipped at a later date. </div></div>

I searched for that post, and could not find it. Can you send a link?

Found the thread, is in Tactical Scopes. Looks good to me.
 
#1,463
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: swamp2</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: WACADOO</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just thought I would let you whining Jabroni's know that Chis Farris just posted on the 1-6 thread on optics talk that they would be shipping tomorrow.
Turret covers will be shipped at a later date. </div></div>

I will only believe it when someone posts their own pics here within about 5 days max. Otherwise another big lie.

I suppose we are also supposed to believe that turret covers are a long lead time type of item. I'll happily accept and use my 1-6 without them but it's pretty chintzy to ship the products incomplete.

The drama really doesn't even seem to diminish. </div></div>

That would be getting pretty bold with the lies, if this weren't true.
With the level of whining and crying on here I can see why they are eager to get them in peoples hands ASAP, even if it is sans turret covers. Would you prefer they wait however long it takes to get the turrets before they ship your scope? They are trying to do the right thing by getting the key item in peoples' hands.
 
#1,464
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

I'll gladly accept it. I can't wait to look through that scope.

But you'd think the turret covers would be freakin easy compared to the rest of the thing, no?
 
#1,466
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

1) And we heard weeks ago they'd be shipping out that they'd be shipping out.
2) HOW IN THE HELL DO THEY HAVE A 33 PAGE THREAD HERE, WHERE THEY PIMPED THEIR DEAL, AND CAN'T FRIGGIN UPDATE US?????
 
#1,467
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Ummm what- "We have finished inspecting and will start shipping tomorrow. They will come without the turret covers for now but the covers will be shipped separately at a later date."
 
#1,468
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

So I've got a bit of bad news, well, at least for me that is. I just got off the phone with SWFA, and asked where I was on the delivery list since I am going over seas for the next few months, and leave Jan 20th, and that I'd like to know if I would be getting it before that time, or if I should notify my post office to hold it for me....

Well, he said I should "be good", and when I asked what that means, he said I'm pretty low on the list, and that I shouldnt see it for a few more months.

Now understand something here, I know people ordered the 1-6 on that first coupon code offer, but I bought the "10000 likes" package MINUTES after it went online. Im order 1908XX, so I really cant imagine I am THAT far down the list to now have to wait a few more months....

So yeah, decode this new information how you wish.
 
#1,470
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Hackk</div><div class="ubbcode-body">

Now understand something here, I know people ordered the 1-6 on that first coupon code offer, but I bought the "10000 likes" package MINUTES after it went online. Im order 1908XX, so I really cant imagine I am THAT far down the list to now have to wait a few more months....
</div></div>

I placed my order the day the 5000 likes was hit. My order number is 188xxx
 
#1,471
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Given the amount of BS SWFA has dealt out with this with empty promises, a change in design after orders placed and ZERO update on what this update looks like, etc. I'm really hoping they realize their F ups on this and we get some rings or something as a "we're sorry", but I highly doubt it when they can't update us here even.

Thread on OT was just info about the 1-6. thread here started 4/12/12. Thread on OT has no updates/info around that time so in theory- this WAS THERE CHOICE FOR ANNOUNCING THIS GB/ initial ordering. Now they can't update us.... What's that tell us????
 
#1,472
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

If the new 2.5-10 FFP Vortex get's released before my 1-6 shows up I'm going to tap out. I ordered when the 10,000 came up and I'm 1906xx so if 1908xx equals a few more months I'm afraid I'm probably in for the same wait. Whatever happened to them posting the new reticle? Seeing as they have them in hand it shouldn't be that difficult to take some pictures, assuming they actually do have some on hand.
 
#1,473
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chakup</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ummm what- "We have finished inspecting and will start shipping tomorrow. They will come without the turret covers for now but the covers will be shipped separately at a later date." </div></div>


Which contradicts their earlier post that said:

<span style="font-style: italic">…….Every other component is ready and has been ready so once reticles start coming in they will be installed and shipped in small batches……. </span>
 
#1,474
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

I just logged into my SWFA account and my 1-6 order still sais "Back Order".

I ordered 40 minutes after 5000 likes went active and my order # is 1881xx.

If I had a right mind I'd ignore this recent news/rumor.

Anybody have a shipping confirmation yet?


Edit: I just tried calling throughout the past hour & just get a recording that all of their reps are busy with other customers. But now they are closed.

I have the feeling, despite ordering very early, I'm screwed for this first batch, if it exists. Oh well I won't be lonely if that's the case.

Anyway, FUCKING COWARDS!!!!
 
#1,475
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: InfiniteGrim</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Got my 5-20 this week. Anyone else's not come with a manual?

Can someone please explain the focus piece, is the middle ring a locking ring?

Also does the magnification or parrallax lock? They seem really stiff. </div></div>

Since no one else has answered these questions, I thought I might be able to help a bit.

Neither my 3-9 nor my 5-20 came with any manual. The 5-20 came with a reticle decoding card which was useful since the reticle is very detailed and has a fair number of features.

Both the magnification and the parallax adjustments are very stiff. They do not lock as far as I know. I don't mind the stiffness so much although I've not taken the rifle out in below freezing temperatures yet (close, though) so I don't know if they get stiffer when really cold. I feel (as other reviews have also pointed out) that it would be nice if they would include a "knob" or "tail" for adjusting magnification. I think one may be offered as an accessory.

The middle ring is a locking ring for the eye focus adjustment.

I really do think it would be fairly easy for them to include a single sheet of instructions with a diagram showing what all the parts are and where they are located.
 
#1,476
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

I called less than an hour ago to update my payment info and was told that they have received the first shipment and were conducting "internal testing" and would be shipping soon but wouldn't give me any dates.
 
#1,477
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chakup</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now they can't update us.... What's that tell us????</div></div>

Most likely it tells us that they will never offer another discount again since it only causes them headaches.
 
#1,479
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chakup</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now they can't update us.... What's that tell us????</div></div>

Most likely it tells us that they will never offer another discount again since it only causes them headaches.</div></div>

I think it goes beyond that... pretty sure they are not too happy and possibly will not be back.

So the constant attacks on here may have invariably drove them off the site. Odds you may never get a reply to this thread... just a thought.
 
#1,480
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chakup</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now they can't update us.... What's that tell us????</div></div>

Most likely it tells us that they will never offer another discount again since it only causes them headaches.</div></div>

I think it goes beyond that... pretty sure they are not too happy and possibly will not be back.

So the constant attacks on here may have invariably drove them off the site. Odds you may never get a reply to this thread... just a thought. </div></div>

So when other GB's have been ran is this an acceptable practice here? I'm honestly curious because I've put lots of faith in Hide sponsors before but this is just messy.
 
#1,481
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

How would suggest the site control the manufacturing of a product ?

Do you think I should fly to TX and chew them out, or maybe take a trip to Japan and see what the problem is...

How fucking ridiculous your suggestion is, a long time Sponsor had a problem, more than likely an unforeseen problem and you're calling for their hanging.

Tell, what is your solution, what do you suggest "I" as SH do about delays in a product's manufacture and release, because we all know NOBODY else has ever been delayed in releasing a product to the public.

Tell me your idea on how I handle this genius, and I will be happy to comply
 
#1,482
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chakup</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now they can't update us.... What's that tell us????</div></div>

Most likely it tells us that they will never offer another discount again since it only causes them headaches.</div></div>

I think it goes beyond that... pretty sure they are not too happy and possibly will not be back.

So the constant attacks on here may have invariably drove them off the site. Odds you
may never get a reply to this thread... just a thought. </div></div>

Yeah, SH, this thread anyway, is now a no win for them. But what would they expect. I kept the good attitude as long as I could. After Christmas went by and no scope the attitude did a 180. If they only kept up with honest updates, not saying any of the updates they did were dishonest and I don't think they were, I would have been fine. I don't care if there was nothing for news they could have added. But I want them to come here and say, "we still are awaiting a shipment. We have no new news to report to our customers at this time", I would be frustrated but appreciate their attention to us.

It does not make sense to me that they let this thread spiral like it did. You have business then fucking handle it!!

I am not happy that I have turned into an asshole about this whole thing.

Edit: And this is not our fault, certainly not your fault, Lowlight, this deal gone sour is the fault of SWFA. I respect the fact that issues arrive in the implementation of new projects such as what is occuring here. But for the love of God if you just let shit ride in an environement such this thread then what the wholly fuck would you expect?

If an employee of theirs is the designated PR person then that person should be fired, or at least demoted, IMO. Oh but it's a family venture, which I admire by the way.
 
#1,483
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

This thread should be renamed, "Little Cry Babies That Made SWFA Never Do Another Group Buy Again"

And people wonder why LL doesn't want to be involved or doesn't want to setup group buys anymore. Because people just get stupid about it.

I still don't get why people are bitching about something they haven't even paid for? SWFA clearly has given you an opportunity to return your 5-20x for a full refund even if it is used.

If you are pissed off, CANCEL YOUR ORDER AND MOVE ALONG.
 
#1,484
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chakup</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now they can't update us.... What's that tell us????</div></div>

Most likely it tells us that they will never offer another discount again since it only causes them headaches.</div></div>

Just read the post on optics forum. SWFA is STILL blaming Customs for the delay. I call BS and doubt seriously that any of us will see the 1-6 anytime soon.
 
#1,485
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

No, this is exactly one of the reasons why I won't get behind any group buy, or use my contacts to get the membership any deals. Been there done that and absolutely won't do it again.

Guys cry way to much over nothing...

Frankly, I was not even paying any attention to this thread until this week, and I am surprised SWFA didn't ask me to close it down, I would have easily done so.
 
#1,486
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: i29gman</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chakup</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Now they can't update us.... What's that tell us????</div></div>

Most likely it tells us that they will never offer another discount again since it only causes them headaches.</div></div>

Just read the post on optics forum. SWFA is STILL blaming Customs for the delay. I call BS and doubt seriously that any of us will see the 1-6 anytime soon. </div></div>

No, I honestly believe what they say is true. Those who ordered early enough will get the 1-6 very soon. My whole beef is they are not here and being a man about it. I was being a man about it for a long time but now I hate what I have become in here, fuck!!

Really looking forward to the death of this fucking thread. Too bad we have allienated SWFA on this site. I think their products that say SWFA on them are great quality. It would have been nice to look forward to more group buys.

I still hope you make another model that is like 1.5-8x or 10x, SWFA. Keep up the good work with great products. Sorry this one turned out like shit for you, but it's almost over.
 
#1,487
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Definitely sucks, hate to see group buys go. I can deal with long waits for huge discounts on quality gear. I'm glad they didn't go with the first batch that didn't meet their expectations and I appreciate that. Look forward to getting this scope but sorry it all worked out the way it did and they are done with these offers.
 
#1,488
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Do you think I should fly to TX and chew them out, or maybe take a trip to Japan and see what the problem is... </div></div>

I hope you guys are happy, Lowlight sent the snipershide.com company jet straight over and made me fly to Texas to get this straightened out!! I've got kids you know!!

The rumors are true, they got some in and in fact some have even shipped out!! I expect some of you lucky dogs who receive the first ones to post pictures and your thoughts.

Here's a quick picture I snapped when the SWFA security guards weren't looking, I brought a box of donuts to distract them!!

And before anyone asks.....yes they got more than 8.

2liengj.jpg
 
#1,490
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: boone</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I'd have been happier with out all the bitching. </div></div>

Same here... Every couple of days I check this thread to see if there are any updates, and have to comb through a group of high school girls bitching to see if there is anything actually relevant.
 
#1,492
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NoFail</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I just logged into my SWFA account and my 1-6 order still sais "Back Order".

I ordered 40 minutes after 5000 likes went active and my order # is 1881xx.
</div></div>

Combo went live 5/21. I waited until 6/7 to order and my order number is 1921xx. As discussed earlier this is almost for sure ALL SFWA orders, not just ones for this scope special(s).
 
#1,493
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

It is indeed a bummer that SWFA won't be seeking business from members on this forum directly. Fortunately, in the connected world we are in, I'm sure members here will not miss the opportunities for savings in future specials.

However, there is absolutely no one to blame here other than themselves. You must lie in the bed you make, it's that simple. It is abundantly clear that they misled or provided incorrect information on multiple occasions. They certainly also made mulitple promises they couldn't keep. On top of that they were incredibly reticent on providing any updates at all. Blaming customers/forum members for their problems is truly unbelievable.

The approach that the supplier/vendor is always right and that through their prices/specials are "doing us a favor" is just completely backwards. We pay their bills, their salaries and for their new building. We have every right to express our concerns. If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. If I ever treated one of my customers (very large corporations) this way I would likely be fired, it's that simple. Customers deserve good products and good service. Companies who do this EARN a customers business.

This was so simple to COMPLETELY AVOID, one word, communication. I understand many will disagree but many also agree:

I also certainly agree with info posted from mods prior - we are unlikely to hear a peep from them here. They got their poor sensitive feelings hurt.

C'est la vie SWFA.
 
#1,494
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Swamp,

What you, and others fail to realize is, its not just "one company" that gets affected by your bad behavior. Many other companies with similar ideas, who might never run into a delay read this stuff and walk away. Every year I talk to big companies that tell me, "the members of the forum are too unkind to business" and they don't want to do business with people on places like this, the internet is too unruly to trust.

You're anonymously posting, bashing, attacking, so why should they step up. Sure they would like too, but they see this and immediately change their mind.

It's not just deals, it's simple interactions, questions, CS etc... they look, think about it, read this tripe and leave. I hear it all the time. One mistake and you pounce, and they absolutely see it.

Trust me on this, people call, talk about offering the membership a deal on a new offering and I tell them straight up not too. I say it's not worth it, the crowd is too fickle and one big mouth and it all goes south. In some cases they may have 200 units in their hand... I still advise them to consider other outlets, because I don't want to sell them on your business only to have it turn against them and me.

You only hurt each other, the power of this place could have netting you access unlike most would not believe, but you constantly piss on the shoes of people doing their best with no remorse. Why because you can hide behind a pseudonym, there is personal responsibility.

You think you are showing them "truth" and the "right way" but really all you are doing is thinking about yourself, and whether or not you are inconvenienced, stomping your feet like a spoiled child. They didn't update me how and when, "I wanted' so they lose and we'll show them by how much.

Big picture, lots of guys just don't get the big picture.
 
#1,496
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Do you think I should fly to TX and chew them out, or maybe take a trip to Japan and see what the problem is... </div></div>

I hope you guys are happy, Lowlight sent the snipershide.com company jet straight over and made me fly to Texas to get this straightened out!! I've got kids you know!!

The rumors are true, they got some in and in fact some have even shipped out!! I expect some of you lucky dogs who receive the first ones to post pictures and your thoughts.

Here's a quick picture I snapped when the SWFA security guards weren't looking, I brought a box of donuts to distract them!!

And before anyone asks.....yes they got more than 8.

2liengj.jpg
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Geez Jason, you could have saved them some shipping costs and brought mine home with you.
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#1,497
Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: PBinWA</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: jasonk</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Lowlight</div><div class="ubbcode-body">
Do you think I should fly to TX and chew them out, or maybe take a trip to Japan and see what the problem is... </div></div>

I hope you guys are happy, Lowlight sent the snipershide.com company jet straight over and made me fly to Texas to get this straightened out!! I've got kids you know!!

The rumors are true, they got some in and in fact some have even shipped out!! I expect some of you lucky dogs who receive the first ones to post pictures and your thoughts.

Here's a quick picture I snapped when the SWFA security guards weren't looking, I brought a box of donuts to distract them!!

And before anyone asks.....yes they got more than 8.

2liengj.jpg
</div></div>

Geez Jason, you could have saved them some shipping costs and brought mine home with you.
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Those are probably all his.
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Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: swamp2</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is indeed a bummer that SWFA won't be seeking business from members on this forum directly. Fortunately, in the connected world we are in, I'm sure members here will not miss the opportunities for savings in future specials.

However, there is absolutely no one to blame here other than themselves. You must lie in the bed you make, it's that simple. It is abundantly clear that they misled or provided incorrect information on multiple occasions. They certainly also made mulitple promises they couldn't keep. On top of that they were incredibly reticent on providing any updates at all. Blaming customers/forum members for their problems is truly unbelievable.

The approach that the supplier/vendor is always right and that through their prices/specials are "doing us a favor" is just completely backwards. We pay their bills, their salaries and for their new building. We have every right to express our concerns. If you can't take the heat get out of the kitchen. If I ever treated one of my customers (very large corporations) this way I would likely be fired, it's that simple. Customers deserve good products and good service. Companies who do this EARN a customers business.

This was so simple to COMPLETELY AVOID, one word, communication. I understand many will disagree but many also agree:

I also certainly agree with info posted from mods prior - we are unlikely to hear a peep from them here. They got their poor sensitive feelings hurt.

C'est la vie SWFA.
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This is such a load of BS I don't even know where to begin. You've been complaining like a kid that thinks he deserves the world handed to him on a silver platter from the beginning. You're a prime example of what is wrong with our great nation.

I look back at what you've posted... i find a lot of what you've posted is purely complaining about SWFA.

Guys like you can't be satisfied... you'll always find something wrong or something to complain about. You forgot that life is about being grateful. Your life IS NOT THAT BAD, chill out.

You're not happy that you didn't get your $1K scope for $500 fast enough so you tear a company down that tried its best to give people a great deal. A company that put a shit ton on the line to give people a great product for an amazing price. Ya yah... "they made a profit, they had it planned".... what do you expect them to do? Do YOU work for free?

When people ask why SWFA does not do another group buy, i will think back and say to myself, "swamp2"

Don't bother responding directly to me or about me, I just added you to my ignore list.

*EDIT* I'm sorry folks... i edited it to be a little more friendly.... perhaps I was being a little too.... hmm lets say... blatant?
 
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