Rifle Scopes SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

[swamp2]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: winxp_man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Ok swamp2 keep on posting your thoughts because I'm sure everyone finds them amusing......</div></div>

Just as amusing as your childish name calling.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: winxp_man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">And dude my comment about the Vortex cancellation is not to put them down smart guy.</div></div>

I never stated nor implied anything of the sort.

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: winxp_man</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Have a good life brother cause I'm done reading this thread. Only reason I even come here is in case SWFA posts any updates.</div></div>

Good, time to drop it.

 

[catalyst]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Swamp, you should just let it go, because the the quality of the thread is just going downhill, now. I say this having been one of the most vocal participants within this thread. Like you, I'd imagine at least half my posts are from this thread...

With that said, SWFA has given us some hard dates. I am satisfied with those dates, as well as the option to return my used 5-20 scope without incurring any loss. If you are not satisfied, then you now have an option to cancel your order.

At this point, the shooting season for my 1-6 is now over - SWFA entirely missed the original date, and I'm pissed about it, but there's no use in crying over spilled milk. We're simply too far along for me to cancel the order at this point, since the season I was planning on using for is past, anyhow.

I think SWFA really dropped the ball on customer service, and since they've had such poor customer service with me on ALL of my prior orders with them, this will be my last order with this vendor, which is truly a shame. I am glad they made an effort to allow us to cancel, but I doubt at this point - that many will take them up on that offer.

I truly hope my 1-6 is flawless & stellar because I simply cannot stomach a 6 month RMA process.

 

[Tactical22]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">This deal, like most group buys, is focused on those to whom savings and quality are more important than schedule. Group buys are always like that. In exchange for a discount the buyers either have to pay up front, give up ability to choose options, or wait longer than normal, but in the end the buyer saves some money. </div></div>
A wise man once told me, in reference to service-related industries, that you can deliver fast, cheap, or good - pick any two. It is obvious that this deal from SWFA is cheap, and I would much prefer they be "good" scopes that take a while than fast scopes that suck. It is safe to say that we would ALL like to have our glass, and no one likes to wait, but let's all grow up and be patient and realistic like adults. Look on the bright side - the longer wait gives us more time to get money saved up to buy a good mount or whatever.

 

[swamp2]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: catalyst</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Swamp, you should just let it go, because the the quality of the thread is just going downhill, now. I say this having been one of the most vocal participants within this thread. Like you, I'd imagine at least half my posts are from this thread...

With that said, SWFA has given us some hard dates. I am satisfied with those dates, as well as the option to return my used 5-20 scope without incurring any loss. If you are not satisfied, then you now have an option to cancel your order.

At this point, the shooting season for my 1-6 is now over - SWFA entirely missed the original date, and I'm pissed about it, but there's no use in crying over spilled milk. We're simply too far along for me to cancel the order at this point, since the season I was planning on using for is past, anyhow.

I think SWFA really dropped the ball on customer service, and since they've had such poor customer service with me on ALL of my prior orders with them, this will be my last order with this vendor, which is truly a shame. I am glad they made an effort to allow us to cancel, but I doubt at this point - that many will take them up on that offer.

I truly hope my 1-6 is flawless & stellar because I simply cannot stomach a 6 month RMA process.
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Pretty well fully agree here. I just can't stand the personal attacks and name calling. I apologize to all for those exchanges detracting from the overall value of this thread. Cheers.

 

[jasonk]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Everyone needs to cool it with the personal attacks in this thread. I'm not going to lock the thread so that leaves banning people as my other option.

You are more than welcome to state your agreement or disagreement with SWFA or other members in a civil way, but anything else will get you a timeout.

 

[dfwm]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

It is about time the moderators stepped in.

Nothing wrong with stating facts. Personal attacks are immature.

SWFA gave me an immature response and I will not buy from them. End of story. Yep, it will cost me a few bucks. But I prefer to deal with people who want my business and treat me with some degree of respect. Call me silly.

If some people do not mind being fed BS so they can save a few hundred dollars that is not 100% "wrong". It works for them!!! Let them be.

The few people who expect more should be prepared to spend more. They are not "wrong" either!!!

Just be thankful we have options and we can purchase from more than a handful of suppliers.

 

[hk dave]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

I do believe jasonk is a moderator.

 

[hotbrass]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

I do believe Jason's message is what dfwm is referencing.

 

[hk dave]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hotbrass</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I do believe Jason's message is what dfwm is referencing.

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DOH!

 

[Boomholzer]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

SWFA has a forum too.

www.opticstalk.com

 

[Ryo]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Interesting people are having customer service issues.. they have always responded politely to me..

 

[i29gman]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Is there any news on a shipping date?

 

[NoFail]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: i29gman</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Is there any news on a shipping date? </div></div>

End of the month, So they say..

 

[HarperJT]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Maybe I'll have it about the same time as my Pvs14 from TNVC

 

[swamp2]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: SWFA</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Lines do not extend all the way to the edge of the field of view. Illumination is very good and bright. Subtentions are the same. <span style="font-weight: bold">We'll get some images up soon. </span></div></div>

I've also PMd SWFA on this request since they seem to rarely monitor this thread.

It's been over 2 months since the reticle supplier and redesign issue was brought up (and the post above). Most notably is their bolded claim. Perhaps they have updated the reticle image on the web site but simply not posted any updates here? I'd like to know what I am expecting to get especially since it has changed since the early prototypes.

 

[chakup]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Would love to see updates on reticle, and also see if SWFA can confirm still looking to see more near end of the month?

 

[i29gman]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Spoke with SWFA yesterday. They still have absolutely nothing to offer on a timeframe for delivery of the 1-6. They were polite but would offer nothing new at all.

 

[NoFail]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Dude posting here months ago who said it'll be Christmas, he wasn't smoking anything expensive when he stated that.... that fact?

 

[hotbrass]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Yep, I did.

And I dont smoke or drink.

But with demand for scopes so high, that may be optimistic.

However, I think they can probably get them all delivered before May 2013.

 

[david walter]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hotbrass</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> However, I think they can probably get them all delivered before May 2013. </div></div>

Ouch

 

[hk dave]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hotbrass</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Yep, I did.

And I dont smoke or drink.

But with demand for scopes so high, that may be optimistic.

However, I think they can probably get them all delivered before May 2013.</div></div>

Sounds about right to me.

 

[texasleftychef]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

I imagine the scopes will start showing up pretty quick since Christmas is coming around and they will want to start promoting another sale.

 

[Cproflow]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

I remain patiently optimistic, however I will say that this wait has been a 6" (not a foot long, mind you) shit sandwich...and we all seem to have been taking a bite.

 

[NoFail]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: texasleftychef</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I imagine the scopes will start showing up pretty quick since Christmas is coming around and they will want to start promoting another sale. </div></div>

I don't think that has anything to do with it. They will ship when they start trickling in from Japan, period. Whether it be end of Nov. or on Christmas eve or 2013. I hope they have the reticules in already. If they don't then forget the last update from them. If the manufacturer just got them now then maybe we see some movement end of month, I guess, heck I don't know.

 

[texasleftychef]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

What ever... They've already missed the Bambi Opener and now the Turkey Shoot sales event. If they miss Christmas, it's all the way until Easter until they can run another group buy. Once it starts biting them in the ass for real, shit will start to happen. Watch.

Curious, for all you fan boys that have said you can wait another two years, when does your masochistictic deprivation become too much <span style="text-decoration: line-through">and you really want to use shit you have already paid for?</span> and you just won't do it any longer.

Edited for correctness as I am uncertain that I have been charged anything.

 

[winxp_man]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: texasleftychef</div><div class="ubbcode-body">What ever... They've already missed the Bambi Opener and now the Turkey Shoot sales event. If they miss Christmas, it's all the way until Easter until they can run another group buy. Once it starts biting them in the ass for real, shit will start to happen. Watch.

Curious, for all you fan boys that have said you can wait another two years, when does your masochistictic deprivation set in and you really want to use shit you have already paid for?</div></div>

Have you paid SWFA the complete dollar amount of $1586.93???? Cause I havent.............. If SWFA stated that they do not charge unless shipping of an item has happened.





Aron-

 

[i29gman]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

I've got no problem with a delay. If it stems from the manufacturer then so be it. I do have a problem with crappy customer service and vague or non-answers provided by SWFA. Notwithstanding the explanation SWFA posted here a couple months ago now, I get the same "we can't tell you anything, we don't have a date" response whenever I inquire. Most recently, I was actually told "we still haven't changed our end of summer delivery date." Really, that must now mean end of summer 2013 unless SWFA uses a different calendar than the rest of us. SWFA may in fact be a great company as many here proclaim. I just haven't seen it yet and am becoming more dubious every day. Next time, I will take my business elsewhere unless SWFA decides to give me a scope first and let me pay for it later (sarcasm intended).

 

[Captramrod01]

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I had to call SWFA today to change my CC due to theft and of coarse I had to ask about the 1-6. Was told they should be receiving them in 15-20 days. Light at the end of the tunnel?

 

[NoFail]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

cool, now somebody else call and see if that answer is consistent. I don't have an excuse to call them at this time.

 

[swamp2]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: NoFail</div><div class="ubbcode-body">cool, now somebody else call and see if that answer is consistent. I don't have an excuse to call them at this time. </div></div>

Great news 2 posts up but a big +1 to this^.

 

[mseanmc]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

I was contacted because the Bobro mount I had ordered with the 1-6 was not in stock. To prevent a delay they asked if they could sub the swfa branded mount manufactured by Bobro which has the same specs of the mount I ordered. This leads me to believe they are getting close to receiving the scopes and shipping them out.

 

[justin204]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

I just called to make a change to my order and spoke with Skylar. He said the scopes are expected in at the end of next week.

 

[Rob01]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Which ones?

 

[chakup]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Which ones? </div></div>

This!!

 

[justin204]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: chakup</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Which ones? </div></div>

This!! </div></div>

Does it really even matter at this point? Whichever one it is, I'll be happy to get it.

 

[Rob01]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

It does to me as I am only waiting on a 5-20x since June. I want to know which they are getting in.

 

[raider1v1]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It does to me as I am only waiting on a 5-20x since June. I want to know which they are getting in. </div></div>

i just called to check on mine and they said they would be getting the 1-6's in next week, and would be shipping them the first week of December as long as they passed the SWFA inspections.

he didnt have any information on the 5-20's

i dont want to post my order number, but he said that i would be one of the first to receive them. my order number was 190XXX.

 

[Rhenerie]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

I hope they will be receiving more 5-20 's soon.

 

[Bedlam]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: texasleftychef</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Curious, for all you fan boys that have said you can wait another two years, when does your masochistictic deprivation become too much <span style="text-decoration: line-through">and you really want to use shit you have already paid for?</span> and you just won't do it any longer.</div></div>
Personally, I haven't paid a penny yet. Once the scopes are ready, I'll be charged, and I'll be getting a great deal!

Waiting for the scopes I wanted at a fantastic price seems better to me than buying scopes I don't want at a normal price. Not to mention 6 months later I'd see the scopes I actually wanted, for which I could have saved literally hundred of dollars on. Now THAT would have been masochistic.

 

[Rhenerie]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Ok while we are all here and excited!! Anyone know if tenebreax has an ARD/cap that fits the 5-20 ?? I wouldn't mind adding that to my order.

 

[Rob01]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Just got an email from SWFA and a UPS email that my 5-20 shipped today.

 

[Rhenerie]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Just got an email from SWFA and a UPS email that my 5-20 shipped today. </div></div>

Awesome news. Could you share your order date?

 

[Tactical22]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

It looks like the new reticle may be up on the website: http://swfa.com/SWFA-SS-1-6x24-Tactical-30mm-Riflescope-P53845.aspx
If this is accurate, the only noticeable difference I see is 40 total MILs from top to bottom as apposed to 50, based on the through-the-scope pics on page 12.

 

[Rob01]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

July 9th was the order date.

 

[NoFail]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Which mount are you guys going to put the 1-6 in?
I still have to decide on one.

 

[chakup]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: Rob01</div><div class="ubbcode-body">July 9th was the order date. </div></div>

Well IF this is true I'm F'nng PISSED. I ordered on June 6th, was told 1-6 should be shipping on first week December, but nothing on my 5-20. But an order over a month later already has theirs??

Rob mind PM'ng me to verify/partial order #?
FWIW= my order #19204X

 

[hk dave]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Well you have to ask, what did Rob specifically order? Perhaps you ordered different 5-20s?

I personally told them to hold off on charging or shipping until they have BOTH in hand to which they kindly obliged.

 

[Tactical22]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

I'm leaning towards Bobro, but maybe an LT 104. ADMs sound perfect, but I'm not spending that much on a mount. Anyways, there has been more than enough debate on the Hide about optic mounts. I like to practice irons, so I'm going with QD, but honestly a standard mount and a torque wrench would also be a good option.

 

[chakup]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: hk dave</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well you have to ask, what did Rob specifically order? Perhaps you ordered different 5-20s?

I personally told them to hold off on charging or shipping until they have BOTH in hand to which they kindly obliged. </div></div>

True, hoping rob chimes in.

 

[justin204]

Re: SWFA-SS Tax Day Group Buy: 1-6, 5-20, and more!

Just for reference, my order is 19247x and I ordered on 6/12.