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The war in Ukraine and Donbas
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Macron first threatens Russia with troops, then purchases €600 million worth of gas from Moscow in first three months of 2024
At the same time that French President Emmanuel Macron is threatening to send troops to Ukraine to fight against Russia, his country is fueling the Russian war effort by purchasing €600 million worth of natural gas from Moscow in the first three months of 2024. According to new data, France is...
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Russia is tuning up for a real war. It will be against the soft weak depleted nato forces staffed and led by DEI members with limited gear of uncertain fitness. Chasing goat herders and subsistence farmers with helicopters, night vision, and teams of million $$ highly trained killers did not prepare nato to face Russian regular forces troops.
High speed low drag folks here, especially retirees, don’t take this the wrong way. You know as well as I do, that after the fact, there is a lot of killing you remember that leaves you a bit unsettled, especially now seeing how we walked away in disgrace. Going up against an actual big army with recent combat experience and a national attitude of fatalism is a whole nother kettle of fish, especially when we consider that the meat grinder will be chewing up our sons, and some daughters.
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Kyiv unleashes drones on Russian city as Putin mocks peace talks - Ukraine war live
Trypillya power plant was completely destroyed in a ‘terrifying’ attack, according to a Ukrainian energy company
www.independent.co.uk
Looks to me like Russia is upping the anti a little more each time, after each tit for tat. Makes me wonder when they will quit playing and go for broke.
Kyiv unleashes drones on Russian city as Putin mocks peace talks - Ukraine war live
Trypillya power plant was completely destroyed in a ‘terrifying’ attack, according to a Ukrainian energy company
I understand that the situation on the frontline has been changing, but I doubt nobody hasn't created a plan yet, taking into account how much time this war lasts.
Despite this awful war and the conditions, Ukrainians have to live in, they still stand strong and are ready to fight. I respect it. I follow the news on various projects on how to support them. Of course, a lot of organizations aim to help their army forces and refugees. And it is understandable. But there are also those created to develop their cities. I've recently read about algorytm https://algorytm.ngo/en and was surprised how innovative ideas they have.
Anyway, we are talking about people's lives. I think nobody deserves to live this way.
Despite this awful war and the conditions, Ukrainians have to live in, they still stand strong and are ready to fight. I respect it. I follow the news on various projects on how to support them. Of course, a lot of organizations aim to help their army forces and refugees. And it is understandable. But there are also those created to develop their cities. I've recently read about algorytm https://algorytm.ngo/en and was surprised how innovative ideas they have.
Anyway, we are talking about people's lives. I think nobody deserves to live this way.
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the plan is to kill every blue eyed Slav. but I doubt the Khazars are going to return to their homeland, what with all the $$$ they are getting from the USA, and all the sympathy they can milk out of the rubes.
most likely they'll just do a picc line of african immigrants straight to Kiev.
Word has come out that President Putin has said the only acceptable outcome is unconditional surrender and dismantling of the criminal regime in Kiev, that Russia will accept nothing less than unconditional surrender of the Ukraine.
It doesn't matter whether the situation is "winnable" or not.
We only ask, "can we win?" we seldom ever ask, "do we want to win?" or "why do we want to do this?"
The USA has absolutely no crucial national interests in Eastern Europe.
Russia's national interests in Eastern Europe are crucial and existential.
There is nothing in Eastern Europe worth the United States getting into a world war or nuclear war over.
Russia will get into a world war or a nuclear war over Eastern Europe.
Even if you could satisfy me, "at the cost of $15 trillion dollars and 2 million American lives, we can *win* in Ukraine and inflict a crushing defeat on Russia that topples Russia" I don't consider that outcome desirable and certainly not worth the proposed cost.
I do not consider weakening Russia or toppling their government to be legitimate foreign policy goals for a United States of America that is supposed to function as a constitutional republic.
The USA has absolutely no business intervening in any capacity in the Ukrainian conflict with Russia.
except the destruction of the russian energy business and by extension, the russian economy.
of course, i don't happen to agree because we can see that russia is going to defend her interests at any cost.
Destroying another nation's economy, especially when that nation is not in a war with us and crucial national interests are not at stake, is not only not a legitimate goal, it is an immoral goal.
I hope Russia wins in Eastern Europe and I believe they are going to win.
If Russia gets into a direct confrontation with the USA, I also hope Russia wins. I don't want Russia to become an occupied clone of the USA with the average person being obese, gender confused, and drag queens grooming children. From my perspective the best thing for American patriots is for the USA to wind up significantly weakened by over-extension on the global scene, and then the situation at home is ripe for a domestic uprising, similar to what happened to Russia in 1905 with their defeat in the Russo-Japanese War with the failed revolution and then 1917 with their defeat in WW1 and the successful revolution.
The USA should be buying cheap energy from Russia, encouraging Europe to do the same, and working with Russia to keep things calm with Iran and North Korea and to build a unified trade bloc against Chinese imperialist ambitions in the Pacific and East Asia.
The most significant threat to my quality of life and my future is not Russia, but rather the government of the United States, especially the deep state regime.
Not only in our history, but in like world history as a whole, when have those concerns ever mattered to governments?
good lord. stop the useless slaughter already! how many more have to die for zelensky and pedo pete?
ya think?!
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ya think?!
Ukraine at “Serious Risk” of Losing War, Warns Top Ex-General - modernity
Pessimism has gripped the population.
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Can't spend your pay if you are dead no matter what they give you.
they already caught a bunch of ukrainian commanders that weren't reporting kias so they could keep getting money to pay the corpses.
i think they might have mostly got away with it except some of the soldiers caught on because the families weren't being notified.
thank god for social media and starlink or we would have no idea.
May be next time... There is a procedure called "Lessons learned".they didn't even get a chance to surrender!
Russia Hits FRENCH FOREIGN LEGION TROOPS in Ukraine
Who was it that said no NATO aligned troops would go to Ukraine?
Who was it that said no NATO aligned troops would go to Ukraine?
Nato troop's have been in the krain from day one, albeit in different rags & pay scale.
Where do you get this insanity from? There are lots of blond and blue eyes slavs fighting the putinists. I've met them. There are also muslims on both sides.
In ten minutes you'll do a complete 180 and accuse the ukrainians of being anti jew nazis, even though the president is jewish.
The war is about Ukraine trying to follow countries like the baltic states and get out from under Russia's boot. Russia is a big bully and they don't want a free country right next to them, especially not one with a population that more or less speaks russian. The situation he's trying to stop is the one he saw with his own eyes as a KGB agent in East Germany, where the entire population understood that the West Germans were better off.
You mean to tell me the msm was not telling the truth from day one? That is just shocking I tell you. How with all the US & nato backing how could this happen? Oh wait, there is a difference between perception & reality. Makes one wonder, what if that transpires again on a, larger scale?
i don't think being "jewish" necessarily means a whole lot these days.
it certainly doesn't mean you can't be anti-israel or anti-jewish.
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For a very short time when a good judge or the rare good king was in power.
Must most of the time the story is as always, oppression and evil.
Even many of the "good guys" later on turned "bad"
Much like what some of our "founding fathers" did...
We are not getting a dime of any loan back to Ukraine.
Even if Ukraine wanted to, they don't have even close enough of a GDP to allow it. But the reality is that Ukraine has no intention of ever paying the money back. They are one of the poorest and most corrupt countries in Europe.
And the other 50% can be forgiven in 2026 , so its just political theatre
Indeed they would need to discover some unoptanium resource to ever have a chance paying back anything
Kiev-based economist Alexey Kushch said in an interview with Ukrainian journalist Yury Romanenko last week
“I estimate that [after the conflict is over] Ukraine’s demographic profile <...> will be made up of 25 million people, including ten million senior citizens, five million children and two to three million disabled persons and veterans receiving social benefits. About seven to eight million working adults will make up the core of the economy.”
holy
7 - 8 million being the key workers
as I said back on page 3 or 4. Russia can easily lose 1:1 in soldiers and win this battle. Ukraine needs their nukes back to fight off Russia.
Military needs their 100 billion back from the crooked politicians; so it can be used to buy ammo. aka Democratic party, money to buy bitcoin, that was funneled into campaign contributions.
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Ukraine never really had nukes. They were leftovers from the Soviet Union, and Russia had operational control over them.
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