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The war in Ukraine and Donbas
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Yes there is considerably more promised ,but that is mostly from individual countries EUrocrats are shelling out 'not their money' en masse
But for now US is more on military aid EU more on bags of cash segment
Ukraine Support Tracker - A Database of Military, Financial and Humanitarian Aid to Ukraine
The Ukraine Support Tracker lists and quantifies military, financial and humanitarian aid promised by governments to Ukraine.
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IIRC they did not activate the guard for Vietnam. I really think if they do that it will be the end of whoever is in office at the time.
I think we will agree that Trump would never do that, and will likely cut all aid to the country. To keep this gravy train rolling they will need another globalist in office.
It is so pointless:
100 or 1,500 is not going to do a single thing but make 100-1500 new widows. This is the way the left runs a war, you don't want to make too much noise or else the people might get unhappy with the idea, So toss a few into the meat grinder at a time and hope no one will notice. It all makes me sick.
Personally I highly doubt that the western countries have not been there for a very long time in "advisor" rolls.
Z's multi-million dollar bunker is on a beach somewhere in France or off the coast of Italy, with access to his 100's of millions of dollars in Ukraine military aid, to buy shoes and bags for his wife.
In time he will skate and live like a king leaving the people to suffer. Hopefully the people of Ukraine will take a page out of Stalin's book and Trotsky that little puke.
I'd suggest his biggest concern would be not pissing off his "buddies" in our government.
He's the kind of person that might eventually want more than what he has been given and start making noises about he knows the details on who got how much.
That's when tragic accidents and sudden illnesses tend to happen.
Yes there is considerably more promised ,but that is mostly from individual countries EUrocrats are shelling out 'not their money' en masse
But for now US is more on military aid EU more on bags of cash segment
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Ukraine Support Tracker - A Database of Military, Financial and Humanitarian Aid to Ukraine
The Ukraine Support Tracker lists and quantifies military, financial and humanitarian aid promised by governments to Ukraine.
Keep in mind, those charts include "commitments", which are essentially meaningless.
The lie about EU funding is also ignoring $86Billion in "reallocated" funds from "other sources" in the US that isn't included in the "aid packages" quoted above either. It's even in our own Government accounting report, so they aren't even trying to hid it.
Guard has been mobilized and deployed regularly since 9/11 - what does Viet Nam have to do with it?
Ain't it word on the street that after the surrounding of Mariupol, there was serious high level negotiations to allow the Green Berets attached to Azov to get out unharmed?
That might be the case with older charts , but the ones i posted , use the updated metric , and do not show 'promised support', only really allocated support.
You can imagine Congress passing 60Billion for Ukraine of which 23billion is spent on financing inventory restocking and 11$ billion on Us military operationjs in the region ,can't really be counted as 'aid' to Ukraine. , its more of a aid to MIC . 14 billion in new arms bought from MIC and 8billion will be in financial assistance. So real tally is closer to 22billon and change rest is mosty branded defense spending
Its one of the things that folks overlook when it comes to aid , and why its not going to change anything, aid delivered in past two years has been much offering much more bang for the buck as it was all surplus ,for example supplied tanks were 1mio per piece or less this year they will be priced of the production line so could be over 10mio a piece , surplus gear vs bought of production line there is up to 10fold decrease in quantity for same money.
Absent of all these charts are costs in regards to Ukrainian refugees that currently enjoy a super refuge status in terms of financing
That is almost a year old number ,now it well north of a 60billion.
European governments have already spent more than 43 billion euros on sheltering Ukrainians. These costs include cash payments, housing, medical care, educational services, and necessities.
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No I wasn't. Because the definition of "trolling" doesn't mean taking an opposite viewpoint that you don't approve of. But not to worry, if you want to mount up and have your one sided circle jerk, I'm sure as hell not going to stand in the way of you being the pivot man.
Russia Issued a three-point "nuclear ultimatum" to France and Britain: "We will bomb your countries directly"
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Η Ρωσία παρέδωσε «πυρηνικό τελεσίγραφο» τριών σημείων σε Γαλλία και Βρετανία: «Θα βομβαρδίσουμε απευθείας τις χώρες σας»!
Η Ρωσία παρέδωσε στους πρέσβεις Γαλλίας και Βρετανίας “πυρηνικό τελεσίγραφο” τριών σημείων που αφορά την έλευση των F-16, ένα πιθανό κτύπημα στη ρωσική ενδοχώρα με ΝΑΤΟϊκά όπλα και την παρουσία…
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Russian Paratroopers Kill French and German Soldiers in Chasov Yar - 'Signal' Sent for NATO Force Deployment
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"According to the Russian Paratroopers , "French and German soldiers were spotted near Chasov Yar in the wooded area on the southern approaches to the city. These are not mercenaries who came to the Ukraine to earn money and at the first threat run away from their posts. The first clashes with them showed that they are very well trained and disciplined. We are sure they are professional military personnel from NATO countries.
Yesterday the French Foreign Legion suffered its first losses. Seven of its soldiers were killed along with an unknown number of Germans."
"Russian military forces said they had intercepted communications about the arrival of NATO forces in Ukraine a month ago"
Ρώσοι Αλεξιπτωτιστές σκότωσαν Γάλλους και Γερμανούς στρατιώτες στο Τσασόβ Γιαρ - Στάλθηκε “σήμα” για ανάπτυξη ΝΑΤΟϊκών δυνάμεων
Ρώσοι Αλεξιπτωτιστές ενημέρωσαν αργά χτες το βράδυ την ανώτατη στρατιωτική Διοίκηση της Ρωσίας πως κατά την διάρκεια μαχών στο Τσασόβ Γιαρ ενεπλάκησαν και σκότωσαν επτά Γάλλους στρατιώτες της Λεγεώνας…
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"According to the Russian Paratroopers , "French and German soldiers were spotted near Chasov Yar in the wooded area on the southern approaches to the city. These are not mercenaries who came to the Ukraine to earn money and at the first threat run away from their posts. The first clashes with them showed that they are very well trained and disciplined. We are sure they are professional military personnel from NATO countries.
Yesterday the French Foreign Legion suffered its first losses. Seven of its soldiers were killed along with an unknown number of Germans."
"Russian military forces said they had intercepted communications about the arrival of NATO forces in Ukraine a month ago"
European Fools think they are being loyal to the NWO and going to help the NWO with their plans to destroy and subjgate Russia and make the west all powerful.
What those European Fools don't understand in the actual plan of the NWO is to destroy Europe and bring it into subjugation and replace the pesky natives with more compliant races.
Tribe is going to get their payback in a big way and they will enjoy having everybody else pay for and do it.
What those European Fools don't understand in the actual plan of the NWO is to destroy Europe and bring it into subjugation and replace the pesky natives with more compliant races.
Tribe is going to get their payback in a big way and they will enjoy having everybody else pay for and do it.
So when does the canned sunshine get released? Is that decision driven by share price, summer vacation schedules, election timing, what?? Let’s do this or forget about it. Fuck! These morons are such pussies.Russian Paratroopers Kill French and German Soldiers in Chasov Yar - 'Signal' Sent for NATO Force Deployment
Ρώσοι Αλεξιπτωτιστές σκότωσαν Γάλλους και Γερμανούς στρατιώτες στο Τσασόβ Γιαρ - Στάλθηκε “σήμα” για ανάπτυξη ΝΑΤΟϊκών δυνάμεων
Ρώσοι Αλεξιπτωτιστές ενημέρωσαν αργά χτες το βράδυ την ανώτατη στρατιωτική Διοίκηση της Ρωσίας πως κατά την διάρκεια μαχών στο Τσασόβ Γιαρ ενεπλάκησαν και σκότωσαν επτά Γάλλους στρατιώτες της Λεγεώνας…
"According to the Russian Paratroopers , "French and German soldiers were spotted near Chasov Yar in the wooded area on the southern approaches to the city. These are not mercenaries who came to the Ukraine to earn money and at the first threat run away from their posts. The first clashes with them showed that they are very well trained and disciplined. We are sure they are professional military personnel from NATO countries.
Yesterday the French Foreign Legion suffered its first losses. Seven of its soldiers were killed along with an unknown number of Germans."
"Russian military forces said they had intercepted communications about the arrival of NATO forces in Ukraine a month ago"
You are mistaken the guard was used. The two letters before ones S/N was enlistment type.
RA = Reg Army aka, volunteer
US = Drafted
N/G = National guard
All three partake'd in the S/E Asian Games
Many N/G types thought they would never see a two way,... some were right, some were wrong
They are 2 arms of the same body. It is far more difficult to frame any one place, country, or organization as the bad guy in the Middle East. Media has been working very hard and cooperatively for years to present Russia as a “clear and present danger”. Thing is, elites are scared by canned sunshine in Europe. The ME, well, only a certain ethnic group are terrified about it there.
Don’t worry guys. We defeated Russia in WWII and we can do it again lol
Well it wasn't over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor, and it ain't over now
(You had to know that was coming)
(You had to know that was coming)
Can we go back to that version of America? At least back to a president whose wife had a fascination with astrology? Hell I would take polyester and a leader with a peanut fetish at this point.
as i recall,the french did same stuff in vietnam and algeria (?), at the time french citizens were not allowed to be drafted and sent to "foreign wars". so,most of fighting was done by the legion and colonial paras. if correct,maybe same now? wonder what the legion makeup is now? knew a brit that was in it and 15 years ago he said most were east european or yugoslavs. it's makeup does change over time.Russian Paratroopers Kill French and German Soldiers in Chasov Yar - 'Signal' Sent for NATO Force Deployment
Ρώσοι Αλεξιπτωτιστές σκότωσαν Γάλλους και Γερμανούς στρατιώτες στο Τσασόβ Γιαρ - Στάλθηκε “σήμα” για ανάπτυξη ΝΑΤΟϊκών δυνάμεων
Ρώσοι Αλεξιπτωτιστές ενημέρωσαν αργά χτες το βράδυ την ανώτατη στρατιωτική Διοίκηση της Ρωσίας πως κατά την διάρκεια μαχών στο Τσασόβ Γιαρ ενεπλάκησαν και σκότωσαν επτά Γάλλους στρατιώτες της Λεγεώνας…
"According to the Russian Paratroopers , "French and German soldiers were spotted near Chasov Yar in the wooded area on the southern approaches to the city. These are not mercenaries who came to the Ukraine to earn money and at the first threat run away from their posts. The first clashes with them showed that they are very well trained and disciplined. We are sure they are professional military personnel from NATO countries.
Yesterday the French Foreign Legion suffered its first losses. Seven of its soldiers were killed along with an unknown number of Germans."
"Russian military forces said they had intercepted communications about the arrival of NATO forces in Ukraine a month ago"
I recently read an article that stated sending the FFL was an easy pull for Macron because the vast majority are not French. France had allowed Ukes to return home to fight as well independently from the Legion.
Hmmm, I thought that is how Bush the lesser got a pass.
Complete units were only called based upon, MOS need & their readiness, level. Not very many complete units went either, but guard units were there. The biggest need was RTO's and selected 11B types. Specialty types (Pathfinder, Sniper, SF, & FO's)were a big need as well.
In the early days (1965) when LBJ put the war on the fast track, the Army was cherry picking people,... Everywhere,...based upon needs.
not passed yet/ desperate? they bashed the russians for doing similar.
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"Russian troops have made a breakthrough in a key city in the Donetsk region according to Ukraine's armed forces.
Lieutenant Colonel Nazar Voloshyn, spokesman for Ukraine's Khortytsia operational-strategic group of troops fighting on the front line, said Russian assault groups had advanced into Krasnohorivka, west of the city of Donetsk, and entered the site of an industrial plant."
Lieutenant Colonel Nazar Voloshyn, spokesman for Ukraine's Khortytsia operational-strategic group of troops fighting on the front line, said Russian assault groups had advanced into Krasnohorivka, west of the city of Donetsk, and entered the site of an industrial plant."
per MSN ..
Dutch open-source intelligence defense analysis website Oryx has visually confirmed that 2,001 Russian tanks have been destroyed, 156 have been damaged, 329 have been abandoned, and 514 have been captured since the start of the war.
Oryx has also visually confirmed that 547 Ukrainian tanks have been destroyed since the beginning of the war, with 68 damaged, 61 abandoned, and 132 captured.
Kyiv's military said in an update on Thursday that Moscow has lost 7,429 tanks so far, including 11 in the past day.
Russia Issued a three-point "nuclear ultimatum" to France and Britain: "We will bomb your countries directly"
Η Ρωσία παρέδωσε «πυρηνικό τελεσίγραφο» τριών σημείων σε Γαλλία και Βρετανία: «Θα βομβαρδίσουμε απευθείας τις χώρες σας»!
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FAFO may well be coming to fruition. WWIII here we go?
I can't say that I find fault with Russia's position, although everyone will suffer once the nuclear button is pushed.
Visually confirmed tanks above.... WHICH propaganda machine is this coming from... Ukes, CIA, dotgov...... inquiring minds.
I was taught it was China that sunk the Arizona on 12/7/1941? and the Japs ended WW II when they dropped the first Nuke on Chicago.
That was not the Russians I watched live on You tube, land at Normandy, on June 6th?
yes we went to havard and we b edumocated beyond r intelligence like all those b 4 us
In addition to drones, Russians are now having fun with motobikes for combat applications:
In the late 1970s, I've been a member of one of the shooting clubs in Moscow, and once, we've had a competition - shooting targets with .22 pistol (with special bullets made from vax) while sitting behind a driver on the motobike. I hit one target and missed the second one. It's been a lot of fun.
In the late 1970s, I've been a member of one of the shooting clubs in Moscow, and once, we've had a competition - shooting targets with .22 pistol (with special bullets made from vax) while sitting behind a driver on the motobike. I hit one target and missed the second one. It's been a lot of fun.
saw this in another thread
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mentions how Russia is buying
nitrocellulose. Global demand is through the roof
EU companies exporting nitrocellulose to support the Russian military
Might slow down the Russian's if making explosives was a bit tougher to source; or make it a bit more expensive.
Powder IN-STOCK thread
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nitrocellulose. Global demand is through the roof
EU companies exporting nitrocellulose to support the Russian military
Might slow down the Russian's if making explosives was a bit tougher to source; or make it a bit more expensive.
There is no possible shortage of smokeless powder in Russia. All you basically need to do is to mix, for a short time, nitric acid and cotton (or similar organic matter), then wash, dry and cut. There are pleanty of both chemical components in Russia...saw this in another thread
mentions how Russia is buyingPowder IN-STOCK thread
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nitrocellulose. Global demand is through the roof
EU companies exporting nitrocellulose to support the Russian military
Might slow down the Russian's if making explosives was a bit tougher to source; or make it a bit more expensive.
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it's about time and now Russia really needs to go for the juglar and open a 3rd drive. just get this done with
this could be the death knell as Ukies are thin as it is. Now they'll have to reallocate forces weakening other areas along the front. Hope Russia has the reserves to punch through and end this
somebody quick give Biden and most of congress rifles and send them over there ASAP!
belgorod,kiev,kharkov heavily fought over land in ww2. have read much on that. same again. land must have dried out. really don't see the russians stopping until they want to.
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