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The war in Ukraine and Donbas
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Maybe somebody should read "On Killing: The Psychological Cost of Learning to Kill" by Grossman...
a lot of footage from ukraine appears to be "soldiers" firing wildly into the air.
i think it is pretty well accepted that maybe 25% do most of the killing in war.
interesting choice of words.
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Stunningly less than that if you consider average military through history.
Grossman and others have compiled quite a few data points to back up their assertions.
Only in the last 40 to 50 years has our military tried to figure out why and try to train around it. We know RU has taken similar paths in their modern infantry and special unit training TTPs.
Very eye opening info on the psyche involved with getting a human to kill another human when in direct small arms action versus crew served weapons.
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It doesn’t take much brainpower to figure out why a man would hesitate to kill another that he has no personal issue with. I don’t find it “eye opening” or mysterious at all. Being “ordered” to kill doesn’t change a thing. If conscription (draft) is considered then this should be even more obvious.
To minimize this, massive propaganda campaigns must be initiated against the men taking part and the productive class getting fucked at home. Both have to be deceived into thinking unnecessary wars that enrich those at the top by transferring wealth from those at the bottom are a good thing. Enlistment numbers stay up and men are more likely to commit atrocities when they believe and are believed to be “heroes serving their country” overseas while the homeland crumbles. In the muslim world you see the same thing but it is via religious instead of patriotism indoctrination. This is what the 99 virgins in heaven and martyr thing is. Same difference.
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I think what Terry said went over your head, Wade.
Getting a human to bite on command is much harder than folks perceive.
Most, cant
No. It’s what I was referring to.
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Summary of my long winded earlier post. Most people don’t kill just because. They need a reason to do so. This reason during wartime is most of the time manufactured and ingrained using deception by the beneficiaries in order to get people to kill indiscriminately on command. Hope this helps.
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Mixing Ukraine and Israel an interesting one
Israeli Rabi is saying that Ukrainians are essentially being punished for hundreds of years of terror over Jews ,and Putin is an outright implement of God !?!?!?
But same folks also believe that Chornobyl nuclear disaster was punishment for the pogrom of Jews at the site 200years prior! And that God is basically punishing everyone that spilled their blood over the two millennia.
Israeli Rabi is saying that Ukrainians are essentially being punished for hundreds of years of terror over Jews ,and Putin is an outright implement of God !?!?!?
But same folks also believe that Chornobyl nuclear disaster was punishment for the pogrom of Jews at the site 200years prior! And that God is basically punishing everyone that spilled their blood over the two millennia.
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Game Over: US, European Officials Quietly Nudge Ukraine To Seek Peace | ZeroHedge
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Time for Z to have an accident and take a dirt nap. He's no longer needed and knows too much.
He could have stuck up for Trump and had a long life. He chose the money believing that he would be protected.
He could have stuck up for Trump and had a long life. He chose the money believing that he would be protected.
This might be a preview of how US women will act when they are drafted.
And yet even on here some blind folks wax lyrical about how great it is to kidnap and enslave people in the name of the "draft".
People on here even say how much they want it. I can only shake my head.
But don't worry we might live to see the same horrors here. What better way to get rid of all those the NWO doesn't like? Kidnap them at gunpoint and force them to be cannon fodder to go kill other kidnapped and enslaved victims until they are all gone.
LOL yeah man.. if you're at the point where you're having to do daily snatch and grabs off the street to replenish your ranks, its well past time to consider a ceasefire...
Or maybe the plan really is to get rid of all the Ukrainians out of the Ukraine so the NWO can move a bunch of "refugees" there instead.
I doubt the Z idiot has a clue, he just does what the money tells him to do.
The Ukrainians were pretty evil to the "Tribe" for a couple hundred years, perhaps this is payback from the masters of the world...
There isn't going to be much of a next generation or any next generation of native Ukrainians at the rate this is going.
No doubt all of Europe, except for Russia and maybe Hungary plus a few other Eastern European conservative holdouts, will be completely ruined with a population beyond recognition if NWO keeps having their way in "diversifying" everything...
This great reset they speak of is kind of unraveling in a non desired direction with people seeing through their smokescreens and mirrors. If muslims start their shit in Europe in response to the Israeli shit than i think people just might actually do something about their rulers and white cucks drowning entire race in "brown piss". As kids would say nowadays it will be epic...
It really looks like they are paving the way for Zelenskys ouster
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Ukrainian politicians don't have as much experience covering up child sex trafficking rings and money laundering as US politicians.
As long as our government is writing big checks they will keep finding bodies to put on the battlefield
The replacement of Ukrainians with non Christian non white has been my thought for quite some time. The MIC and their political class criminals partners get rich. The Ukrainians get mass dead and the UN gets a country to flip with a refugee flood. From the third world.
The half Russia doesn't get that is.
I'm pretty sure that if Trump was still president this war was not happening.
Assistant to Ukraine’s top general killed in grenade blast
A senior aide and reported close friend of Ukraine’s top general, Valery Zaluzhny, has been killed by a grenade at his own birthday party
So, a top aide and close friend of the general was assassinated less than a week after said general admitted publicly that the Ukes didn't have the manpower to push the Russians out of Donbas. And herr tenpercentski publicly derided said general. Can you say, "message received"? The panic is setting in for the ruling class in Kiev. Like Hitler in his bunker, the comedian is ordering armies that no longer exist or are manned by old men and children to attack. It will go from ugly to sad soon.Assistant to Ukraine’s top general killed in grenade blast
A senior aide and reported close friend of Ukraine’s top general, Valery Zaluzhny, has been killed by a grenade at his own birthday partywww.rt.com
"This attack by the Russian forces marks - and formally - the end of the Ukrainian counter-attack in Bakhmut. The Ukrainians lost in two days what territorial gains they made in the last 3 months."
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American Officials: "It's all over for V. Zelensky - Generals and SBU will overthrow him soon" - Final headlines are finally falling...
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Most of us have seen this coming for nearly a year now.American Officials: "It's all over for V. Zelensky - Generals and SBU will overthrow him soon" - Final headlines are finally falling...
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They should negotiate a peace treaty before its too late... if they don't, at some point in the near future, Russia will be in a position to demand unconditional surrender.
The more than likely outcome is no more Ukraine, just greater Russia and Greater Poland.
Semi-autonomous zone.
Putin isn't just demilitarizing Ukraine, he's slowly eliminating all breeding age males.
Putin isn't just demilitarizing Ukraine, he's slowly eliminating all breeding age males.
And Putin never wanted this.
He wanted to join NATO and EU.
But they don't want to be friends with Russia.
They want Russia as enemy.
He wanted to join NATO and EU.
But they don't want to be friends with Russia.
They want Russia as enemy.
Not exactly negotiating from a position of power are they? Ukraine can hardly offer Russia what they wanted before the war because that price has undoubtedly increased.
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