Tikka T1X

[Halen]

A few weeks ago I had the misfortune of breaking my wrist, so I figured I'd use the downtime to work on my T1x. I'm starting from scratch and would appreciate input on the build. Below is what I have figured out and want to verify the ring height and if I need an additional adapter for the bipod to connect with the rail:

MDT LSS GEN2 Chassis - Black

MDT MDT SCS-LITE - Skeleton Carbine Stock Lite

MDT Vertical Grip Elite

Vortex Optics Strike Eagle 5-25x56 MOA First Focal Plane Riflescopes

American Rifle Company M-BRACE Scope Rings 34mm | 24mm-0.94in Low

MDT Arca-Swiss M-LOK Rail Adapter - 7"

Tikka T1X Threaded Adjustable Bolt Handle Upgrade - Dragon Scale Titanium

Tikka T1x Extended Mag Release

Area 419 Tikka T1X Improved Scope Rail 30 MOA

Yodave Tikka T3, T3X and T1X spring

Atlas Bipod BT46-LW17 PSR: Standard height with ADM 170-S Lever

 

[Emerson0311]

A few weeks ago I had the misfortune of breaking my wrist, so I figured I'd use the downtime to work on my T1x. I'm starting from scratch and would appreciate input on the build. Below is what I have figured out and want to verify the ring height and if I need an additional adapter for the bipod to connect with the rail:

MDT LSS GEN2 Chassis - Black

MDT MDT SCS-LITE - Skeleton Carbine Stock Lite

MDT Vertical Grip Elite

Vortex Optics Strike Eagle 5-25x56 MOA First Focal Plane Riflescopes

American Rifle Company M-BRACE Scope Rings 34mm | 24mm-0.94in Low

MDT Arca-Swiss M-LOK Rail Adapter - 7"

Tikka T1X Threaded Adjustable Bolt Handle Upgrade - Dragon Scale Titanium

Tikka T1x Extended Mag Release

Area 419 Tikka T1X Improved Scope Rail 30 MOA

Yodave Tikka T3, T3X and T1X spring

Atlas Bipod BT46-LW17 PSR: Standard height with ADM 170-S Lever

Not sure about the spacer, but I have a very similar setup, except an ACC and a Cyke pod. Very happy with it. I just put an IBI barrel on. It tightened up my SK S+ groups quite a bit. Will try better ammo when it’s warmer.

 

[Halen]

Not sure about the spacer, but I have a very similar setup, except an ACC and a Cyke pod. Very happy with it. I just put an IBI barrel on. It tightened up my SK S+ groups quite a bit. Will try better ammo when it’s warmer.

Cool. Which IBI barrel did you go with?

 

[CountryShooter]

Found that. Reason I ask is seems like guys are running them no problem. I just measured my threads and looks like they are around .48-.49” long. Which creates another problem for possibly using a .2” spacer and then being the other way.

Maybe it’s worth getting .1” chopped off the end. I don’t know maybe @TBACRAY can tell us the space to the first baffle. I know the spec, unfortunately if I don’t have to take my rifle to a smith halfway across the state I’d like to avoid it.

Owning a T1X, I sure wouldn't get the barrel cut for such a small amount. My Tikka measures same as yours, .490. With .503 to first baffle of the TD. They are close, but no sign at all the barrel touches the baffle.

 

[Lawnboi]

Owning a T1X, I sure wouldn't get the barrel cut for such a small amount. My Tikka measures same as yours, .490. With .503 to first baffle of the TD. They are close, but no sign at all the barrel touches the baffle.

Thanks for the info. Accuracy good? Part of me thinks that I should just cut it down to 16”, properly thread it and do it the right way. Gives me an excuse to drive back out to LRI and shoot prairie dogs. That said I also have a Griffin optimus micro that works well on the rifle, I just don’t like playing musical cans and that one lives on my 223 varmint gun.

 

[Emerson0311]

Cool. Which IBI barrel did you go with?

20” 1/12 full profile, Calfie4 chamber, no threads. If we could have cans up here I would have threaded it. If I end up stateside again I would get it threaded.

 

[CountryShooter]

Thanks for the info. Accuracy good? Part of me thinks that I should just cut it down to 16”, properly thread it and do it the right way.

Make sure to shoot it before doing barrel modifications. So we can see if it made a difference.

 

[sniperstudent]

BUYER BEWARE...T1X magazine from Euro Optics... I ordered a magazine from Euro Optics a few days ago based on the talk about new shorter base magazines available. The picture on Euro Optics website shows the shorter mag and I was assured it was as pictured but I received the mag today and it is the same old shark fin style. Doesn't sound like Euro Optics is going to do anything for me, other than charge me $15 to return it. I will update when I get this all settled with them.

 

[cjs88]

Anyone heard when production with tikka will pick up?

Wish I knew. Trying to get my hands on a T1x in 17hmr. "bought" one the other day because I got an in-stock notification from 3 different notify lists with in a few minutes of each other. Turns out it was just a glitch and not actually in stock. Was super excited too because I had just signed up for notifications the day before

 

[BKSSNIPER]

Wish I could help you find one but the wait will be worth it.

 

[cannoncrossfire]

BUYER BEWARE...T1X magazine from Euro Optics... I ordered a magazine from Euro Optics a few days ago based on the talk about new shorter base magazines available. The picture on Euro Optics website shows the shorter mag and I was assured it was as pictured but I received the mag today and it is the same old shark fin style. Doesn't sound like Euro Optics is going to do anything for me, other than charge me $15 to return it. I will update when I get this all settled with them.

 

[AleksanderSuave]

BUYER BEWARE...T1X magazine from Euro Optics... I ordered a magazine from Euro Optics a few days ago based on the talk about new shorter base magazines available. The picture on Euro Optics website shows the shorter mag and I was assured it was as pictured but I received the mag today and it is the same old shark fin style. Doesn't sound like Euro Optics is going to do anything for me, other than charge me $15 to return it. I will update when I get this all settled with them.

havent heard of a 'shorter base' new magazine for tikka, went on the t1x mtr page and their photo does seem like the mag sits more flush, but the beretta accessories page only shows 1 t1x 22 mag for sale as well.

Got a product link for the newer one or anything like that? Im curious now.

 

[AleksanderSuave]

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following up on my previous comment..

This makes sense, the eurooptic product page just shows the 17hmr mag in place of the photo of the 22 mag. Common mistake. Its always recommended to go by the product description rather than photo when ordering online.

Tikka .22LR Magazine for T1X Rifle S545203781

Tikka .22LR Magazine for T1X Rifle S545203781 For Sale

www.eurooptic.com

 

[sniperstudent]

I looked for a product description to verify but found nothing concrete, so I called and was told the mag would be the same as pictured. I did my best to verify what I was ordering. I have a 22lr and 17hmr so I know the difference. EVERY picture you see now of T1X 22lr shows a shorter mag. I thought, with all the complaints about the shark fin mag, that maybe Tikka had made a change in mag design. Seems a change would be easy enough. I am sure that I am not the only one that would like a shorter base mag.

 

[AleksanderSuave]

I looked for a product description to verify but found nothing concrete, so I called and was told the mag would be the same as pictured. I did my best to verify what I was ordering. I have a 22lr and 17hmr so I know the difference. EVERY picture you see now of T1X 22lr shows a shorter mag. I thought, with all the complaints about the shark fin mag, that maybe Tikka had made a change in mag design. Seems a change would be easy enough. I am sure that I am not the only one that would like a shorter base mag.

You may have better luck reaching out to the eurooptic rep on snipershide. I have a feeling whoever told you that you were getting a shorter mag made a mistake.

 

[sniperstudent]

Thanks Alek. I will look into it. How do I get in touch with ero optics rep on the hide? Is there a vendor list?

 

[CaptNemo]

Thanks Alek. I will look into it. How do I get in touch with ero optics rep on the hide? Is there a vendor list?

www.eurooptic.com

 

[ncr92]

I am looking to make a few upgrades to my T1x. Currently it is straight out of the box stock with a Area419 30 MOA scope rail. The main uses for this rifle with be for the whole family to go plinking with. The 2 ranges we go to have dedicated 22lr areas that go out to 100yds. My 12yo son and I will use it out to 400yds and it will be used introduce my 7yo daughter to proper firearms handling and shooting fundamentals.

First, I am currently looking at dropping it into a KRG Bravo stock and adding the toolless adjustable LOP to easily go between my daughter and me. I'm curious to know of other chassis/stock options.

Second, I have been tossing several different scopes on it and I want to get a dedicated scope for it. I've had several scopes on it ranging from an old Leupold Mark AR 3-9x40 to a NF 7-35x56. I am looking at the Bushnell Match Pro but I'd like the get some input on other options.

Thanks,

T

Another way to add adjustable length of pull to the T1x Bravo is to swap the buttstock for the X-Ray buttstock with adjustable LOP kit. The X-Ray buttstock, grips and X-Ray tool-less LOP kit only cost $20 more than the Bravo tool-less LOP kit.

 

[AleksanderSuave]

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I am looking to make a few upgrades to my T1x. Currently it is straight out of the box stock with a Area419 30 MOA scope rail. The main uses for this rifle with be for the whole family to go plinking with. The 2 ranges we go to have dedicated 22lr areas that go out to 100yds. My 12yo son and I will use it out to 400yds and it will be used introduce my 7yo daughter to proper firearms handling and shooting fundamentals.

First, I am currently looking at dropping it into a KRG Bravo stock and adding the toolless adjustable LOP to easily go between my daughter and me. I'm curious to know of other chassis/stock options.

Second, I have been tossing several different scopes on it and I want to get a dedicated scope for it. I've had several scopes on it ranging from an old Leupold Mark AR 3-9x40 to a NF 7-35x56. I am looking at the Bushnell Match Pro but I'd like the get some input on other options.

Thanks,

T

You could also try an MDT Oryx (LOP adjustment is not tool-less out of the box but Ive seen others add aftermarket parts that do so) if you're shooting as a bench rifle it is a great option.

In the 400 yard option, I would recommend an athlon cronus.

 

[Kometes]

Anyone having luck with Eley ammo?

Yep, eley standard works a treat. That's prone off a bipod outdoors.

 

[chzhd]

I am looking to make a few upgrades to my T1x. Currently it is straight out of the box stock with a Area419 30 MOA scope rail. The main uses for this rifle with be for the whole family to go plinking with. The 2 ranges we go to have dedicated 22lr areas that go out to 100yds. My 12yo son and I will use it out to 400yds and it will be used introduce my 7yo daughter to proper firearms handling and shooting fundamentals.

First, I am currently looking at dropping it into a KRG Bravo stock and adding the toolless adjustable LOP to easily go between my daughter and me. I'm curious to know of other chassis/stock options.

Second, I have been tossing several different scopes on it and I want to get a dedicated scope for it. I've had several scopes on it ranging from an old Leupold Mark AR 3-9x40 to a NF 7-35x56. I am looking at the Bushnell Match Pro but I'd like the get some input on other options.

Thanks,

T

Update: Got the KRG Bravo in and installed. Now I just need to decide on an optic. Trying my hardest not to get an S&B for a different rifle and putting the Leupold Mark 4 8.5-25x50 on the Tikka.

T

 

[AleksanderSuave]

Update: Got the KRG Bravo in and installed. Now I just need to decide on an optic. Trying my hardest not to get an S&B for a different rifle and putting the Leupold Mark 4 8.5-25x50 on the Tikka.

T

I run the vortex viper pst gen 2 on mine, for the money it made sense (I already had it, lol), it seems to be pretty much a perfect scope for 22

 

[AleksanderSuave]

Yep, eley standard works a treat. That's prone off a bipod outdoors. View attachment 7787748

Pretty similar to what I got at 50 yards with tenex. Eley Club is a decent lower price alternative too, at that range, shot similarly for me.

 

[260284]

I am looking to buy a T1x in the future to have a 22 that I can throw in my Tikka ACC and German Gun Stocks. Any suggestions on what ammo to stock up on for getting my grandson used to a bolt gun out to 150 yards or so? CCI standard?

 

[CaptNemo]

I am looking to buy a T1x in the future to have a 22 that I can throw in my Tikka ACC and German Gun Stocks. Any suggestions on what ammo to stock up on for getting my grandson used to a bolt gun out to 150 yards or so? CCI standard?

CCI SV works well in Mine for Mid Priced ammo.
The SK Rifle March and Long Range Match ammo is more accurate in my gun at a significantly higher cost and limited availability.
Be aware that the attaching screw for the magazine chute will interfere with a stock with a T3 / T3x inlet at the bridge between the trigger pocket and the magazine well.
It's a pretty easy milling cut to gain enough clearance to make it fit.
I did this with my old CTR bottom metal and the T1X Barreled Action lived in that stock until my MDT XRS with the T1x inlet got here.

 

[260284]

CCI SV works well in Mine for Mid Priced ammo.
The SK Rifle March and Long Range Match ammo is more accurate in my gun at a significantly higher cost and limited availability.
Be aware that the attaching screw for the magazine chute will interfere with a stock with a T3 / T3x inlet at the bridge between the trigger pocket and the magazine well.
It's a pretty easy milling cut to gain enough clearance to make it fit.
I did this with my old CTR bottom metal and the T1X Barreled Action lived in that stock until my MDT XRS with the T1x inlet got here.

I have access to a mill, so I figure I can modify my ACC and the aluminum mini-chassis in the GGS stocks that I want to use. I will start buying the CCI SV and keep my eyes peeled for some SK if I decide to shoot any of the local 22 matches.

Thanks

 

[Buckhead]

I am looking to buy a T1x in the future to have a 22 that I can throw in my Tikka ACC and German Gun Stocks. Any suggestions on what ammo to stock up on for getting my grandson used to a bolt gun out to 150 yards or so? CCI standard?

Oddly enough, my T1X doesn't seem to like CCI SV all that much. CCI sub-sonic hollow points work quite well.

 

[Emerson0311]

My T1X dropped right in to my ACC. CCISV did as well as SKRM in the factory barrel. Average 1.76” 10 rnd groups at 100 over 44 groups. With an IBI 12T the SK stepped ahead to 1 1/4” groups or so. YoDave trigger spring, and it’s done.

 

[Cowpokey]

I don't have a T1X, but CCI-SV out of several rifles was as good or better than SKRM. Get some of each and see what works for you.

 

[Superdave001]

I don't have a T1X, but CCI-SV out of several rifles was as good or better than SKRM. Get some of each and see what works for you.

My T1x seems to shoot CCI SV quite well for low end ammo. It does better (usually, but not always) with better ammo. Have had great results with almost everything that I've tried. Center-X, Tenex, Wolf MT, SK Std+ all produce respectable groups. I'm finding that the biggest variable to getting great shot groups is the shooter, not the rifle or the ammo. Since I always shoot suppressed in my back yard, I haven't tried any HV stuff in it, but will try some mini-mags and Fed AM the next time I go to an outdoor range. This last month has been too cold to do much shooting. I'm old enough that I ain't shooting if I ain't comfortable.

 

[Cowpokey]

I have some Mini Mags, but when they're gone I'm not buying any more. Standard Velocity is good in all of mine...I have a case and a half (almost) of SK pistol match, it seems to be better than the rifle match I had. I'm going to get some pistol match special for when it's cold(er) outside...like you, I'm not big on shooting if it isn't comfortable.

 

[Superdave001]

I have some Mini Mags, but when they're gone I'm not buying any more. Standard Velocity is good in all of mine...I have a case and a half (almost) of SK pistol match, it seems to be better than the rifle match I had. I'm going to get some pistol match special for when it's cold(er) outside...like you, I'm not big on shooting if it isn't comfortable.

I'm with you on the Mini Mags. I have about 4 bricks and am thinking of just selling them to finance more of the better stuff. I've had them for a while, so they are "old" production and probably better than the newer lots. I just keep looking for 'deals' on better grades of standard velocity.
What amazes me is that people are paying $0.15 a round for mini mags and happy to do so. Wasn't so long ago that you could get decent Eley for that - or SK Magazine for less than that! The last SKM that I bought was $0.10/rd plus shipping. I guess those were the good old days...

 

[Cowpokey]

I'm with you on the Mini Mags. I have about 4 bricks and am thinking of just selling them to finance more of the better stuff. I've had them for a while, so they are "old" production and probably better than the newer lots. I just keep looking for 'deals' on better grades of standard velocity.
What amazes me is that people are paying $0.15 a round for mini mags and happy to do so. Wasn't so long ago that you could get decent Eley for that - or SK Magazine for less than that! The last SKM that I bought was $0.10/rd plus shipping. I guess those were the good old days...

I remember buying 40 grain Blazers for $18/brick and CCI-SV for $24/brick. The SKRM was $65/brick, so I was expecting it to be significantly better than CCI-SV, it wasn't for me.

I'll buy 40 grain Blazers again, even though they are HV, we use them for Rimfire Challenge (completely unrelated to this thread, sorry for the off topic), when reliable "cheap" ammo and distances under 35 yards is the game, you buy what works...and it works great for big targets when you're burning through 300 rounds a match per person.

 

[6.5SH]

Hope these end up working out:



ETA:
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https://www.facebook.com/mkmachining/photos/a.1911000629137825/3113160585588484/

 

[cbpelikan]

Hope these end up working out:

I hope so! Are you one of the testers?

 

[6.5SH]

I hope so! Are you one of the testers?

Sadly no, only saw it today when looking for February match info.

 

[fumiyasu]

Hi from across the pond,

New to the forum and Tikka, I've shot ISSF style stuff for many years, stop a few years ago but recently started doing nrl22. Really enjoyed it and so wanted to get a rifle specifically for it. Initially wanted to go for a Annie 1710 competition as I have always shot Anschutz but then decided to give Tikka a try after reading this thread and others on it.

So anyway, finally got it earlier this week:

So far only mounted a vortex strike eagle on March/Audere rings. I went straight dovetail as our club doesn't go beyond 100yds and I didn't want to stack tolerances. Also installed a yodave spring, trigger now breaks at 1.1lb with adjustment screw fully out touching the big hex bolt. Not quite the 3oz trigger on my Annie single shot but probably appropriate for positional shooting.

Still waiting for my ACC chassis and Sterk bolt handle to arrive.

Did anyone notice any change in the rifle's ammo preference following a chassis swap?

Was thinking about whether to do some ammo testing before the chassis arrives.

 

[Emerson0311]

Hi from across the pond,

New to the forum and Tikka, I've shot ISSF style stuff for many years, stop a few years ago but recently started doing nrl22. Really enjoyed it and so wanted to get a rifle specifically for it. Initially wanted to go for a Annie 1710 competition as I have always shot Anschutz but then decided to give Tikka a try after reading this thread and others on it.

So anyway, finally got it earlier this week:
View attachment 7799661

So far only mounted a vortex strike eagle on March/Audere rings. I went straight dovetail as our club doesn't go beyond 100yds and I didn't want to stack tolerances. Also installed a yodave spring, trigger now breaks at 1.1lb with adjustment screw fully out touching the big hex bolt. Not quite the 3oz trigger on my Annie single shot but probably appropriate for positional shooting.

Still waiting for my ACC chassis and Sterk bolt handle to arrive.

Did anyone notice any change in the rifle's ammo preference following a chassis swap?

Was thinking about whether to do some ammo testing before the chassis arrives.

I didn’t test mine without the ACC. The biggest for me was putting an IBI 1:12 twist barrel on. I doubt the twist made a difference at 100, but the barrel itself cut my SK Standard+ 10 shot group size by 40%. Now it averages around 1.375”, often putting 8/10 at 1” or under. Center X and Eley Match are more consistently under 1”, but positional shooting usually doesn’t call for that and the cost gets significantly higher.

 

[fumiyasu]

Was that a one off 1:12 twist from them?

I am probably going to try and stay with the factory barrel as far as possible if it shoots well enough. Barrel swaps are a bit more complicated in the UK given our legislations, so if I do swap then I will probably go the full barrel blank/custom chambering route.

 

[Emerson0311]

Was that a one off 1:12 twist from them?

I am probably going to try and stay with the factory barrel as far as possible if it shoots well enough. Barrel swaps are a bit more complicated in the UK given our legislations, so if I do swap then I will probably go the full barrel blank/custom chambering route.

They do 1:12 for anyone who asks. It only really makes a difference past 200. I understand the pain the law can make from basic things. The IBI barrel cut my groups quite a bit, but for you buying an Anschutz might be easier re the legalities.

 

[fumiyasu]

I see, I will probably be ok for nrl22 under 100yards until I do .22 elr I guess. I haven't even shot the rifle yet lol but Anschutz prices in Europe are probably the only thing good vs US.

I just read that the mkm mag extension doesn't work with the ACC, is that still the case?

 

[acudaowner]

while i am unsure whether or not they have any I did notice on mdt page where you can get there chassis it did mention the tika t1 like you could order the stock and also the T1 action if it is that would be pretty cool as i have drawn a blank in finding one in stock so far .
https://mdttac.com/xrs-chassis-system/ best of luck with whatever you decide to do .

 

[Emerson0311]

I see, I will probably be ok for nrl22 under 100yards until I do .22 elr I guess. I haven't even shot the rifle yet lol but Anschutz prices in Europe are probably the only thing good vs US.

I just read that the mkm mag extension doesn't work with the ACC, is that still the case?

Anything that makes the factory mag base significantly bigger won’t work with the ACC because the ACC magwell is designed for a T3X and a bigger 22 magazine won’t fit.

 

[fumiyasu]

Anything that makes the factory mag base significantly bigger won’t work with the ACC because the ACC magwell is designed for a T3X and a bigger 22 magazine won’t fit.

Thanks I see, well that sucks... I assume this would be the same on both the early ACCs which are inletted for just the T3X and the later ones which are inletted for both T1/T3?

Good news is I just heard from my gun shop and the chassis is supposed to be with them next Tue!

Starting to think perhaps I should have tried the Bravo first! Or I might keep this for the incoming T3X and then just buy a additional bravo for the T1

 

[Emerson0311]

Thanks I see, well that sucks... I assume this would be the same on both the early ACCs which are inletted for just the T3X and the later ones which are inletted for both T1/T3?

Good news is I just heard from my gun shop and the chassis is supposed to be with them next Tue!

Starting to think perhaps I should have tried the Bravo first! Or I might keep this for the incoming T3X and then just buy a additional bravo for the T1

I’m not sure about the generations of the ACC. It sure sold me on the adjustability of a full chassis though.

 

[fumiyasu]

Finally managed to get to the range today to shoot it and tried to do some ammo testing. I had a brick of R50 which my Annie likes and a brick of Tenex that was gathering dust as it doesn't shoot well in the Anschutz. Also got a few SKs and Lapua to try while I am at it.

Only had an hour as I needed to do pick up today, so there's an element of rushing/human error but still generally did quite well I think. Well happy with the accuracy.

Started with SK rifle match, zero'ed the rifle and starting shooting at 50 on the bench off bipod and rear bag. First group 0.38" which I thought was great. The other 4 groups all hovered around 0.5", so I think I managed to get one with a decent barrel. Rest of the other SKs were ok but nothing to shout about.

I then got to the Lapuas, both Midas + and centre X did pretty well between .24" - .6".

My rifle did not like rws at all, not only were the group's big, it was having weak ejections and feed issues.

Then finally I got to that brick of Tenex I had and it shot amazing, apart from on .6" group. The other 4 were between .3" - .4". Looks like I will be buying some more of this lot!

 

[CommissarGrub]

Finally managed to get to the range today to shoot it and tried to do some ammo testing. I had a brick of R50 which my Annie likes and a brick of Tenex that was gathering dust as it doesn't shoot well in the Anschutz. Also got a few SKs and Lapua to try while I am at it.

Only had an hour as I needed to do pick up today, so there's an element of rushing/human error but still generally did quite well I think. Well happy with the accuracy.

Started with SK rifle match, zero'ed the rifle and starting shooting at 50 on the bench off bipod and rear bag. First group 0.38" which I thought was great. The other 4 groups all hovered around 0.5", so I think I managed to get one with a decent barrel. Rest of the other SKs were ok but nothing to shout about.

I then got to the Lapuas, both Midas + and centre X did pretty well between .24" - .6".

My rifle did not like rws at all, not only were the group's big, it was having weak ejections and feed issues.

Then finally I got to that brick of Tenex I had and it shot amazing, apart from on .6" group. The other 4 were between .3" - .4". Looks like I will be buying some more of this lot!

Pretty much my observations on my T1x as well, although I did tried the Lapua stuff.

Shooting unsuppressed, SKRM are very nice and consistent but does not yield the tightest groups (groups stays in the 0.7-0.8 MOA range on 5 shot groups at 50m)
Other SKs works okay but not awesome. I don't know if this has any connection in the real world or not but it looks like their way of lubing the pills instead of waxing pleases the Tikka more.

RWS she doesn't like, whatever the model is. CCIs, remingtons and the cheap stuff, no luck either.

I had some interesting results with Eleys, with tighter groups (0.6 MOA on average) but on the "entry level" stuff like clubs and standard, there was always a flyer every 5 to 10 rounds to ruin the group size close to or above MOA.

On close inspection, the bullets on these often have some dents and dings and occasionnaly a casting defect on one side (small extra block of lead) of the ogive which is a good candidate to explain some of these flyers. I've found these defects on the low grade stuff (SK magazine for example) but given the price tag of the brick of Eley, that's a shame. Tenex is obviously the way to go for better QC but it hurts the purse quite a bit for recreationnal shooting. I've inspected the SKRM projectiles to compare and they are all in nice shape, no dents or casting defect on the 100+ bullets I've looked at. And these are still cheaper than the cheap Eleys too.

I bought a suppressor a couple weeks ago so I'll run another testing session when I can to see how much of a change that is bringing, but so far I'm going to stick with the SK as a baseline for the good price to consistency ratio (If I can get some of course...)

 

[Emerson0311]

Pretty much my observations on my T1x as well, although I did tried the Lapua stuff.

Shooting unsuppressed, SKRM are very nice and consistent but does not yield the tightest groups (groups stays in the 0.7-0.8 MOA range on 5 shot groups at 50m)
Other SKs works okay but not awesome. I don't know if this has any connection in the real world or not but it looks like their way of lubing the pills instead of waxing pleases the Tikka more.

RWS she doesn't like, whatever the model is. CCIs, remingtons and the cheap stuff, no luck either.

I had some interesting results with Eleys, with tighter groups (0.6 MOA on average) but on the "entry level" stuff like clubs and standard, there was always a flyer every 5 to 10 rounds to ruin the group size close to or above MOA.

On close inspection, the bullets on these often have some dents and dings and occasionnaly a casting defect on one side (small extra block of lead) of the ogive which is a good candidate to explain some of these flyers. I've found these defects on the low grade stuff (SK magazine for example) but given the price tag of the brick of Eley, that's a shame. Tenex is obviously the way to go for better QC but it hurts the purse quite a bit for recreationnal shooting. I've inspected the SKRM projectiles to compare and they are all in nice shape, no dents or casting defect on the 100+ bullets I've looked at. And these are still cheaper than the cheap Eleys too.

I bought a suppressor a couple weeks ago so I'll run another testing session when I can to see how much of a change that is bringing, but so far I'm going to stick with the SK as a baseline for the good price to consistency ratio (If I can get some of course...)

My T1X factory barrel shot CCISV as well as SKRM, averaging around 1 3/4” for 10 at 100. My IBI barrel shoots SKS+ at 1 3/8” for 10 at 100, with many groups approaching 1”. The 1 or 2 out of 10 that make the group bigger is the price of less consistency in cheaper ammo.

 

[fumiyasu]

I agree with you guys both but SK match if is only available to me at a further away shop and so I went Tenex partly out of convenience. It's also the cheapest out of the top shelf stuff (Midas and r50) for me too.

Tried suppressed too but my groups opened up so the harmonics probably didn't work out for me on that one.

Have seen people with rifles that shot cheaper ammo better than expensive stuff but it's never happened to my unfortunately...

Was trying to get some info go true up my dope on Tenex and also wanted to shoot some groups today at 100m but it was real stormy. Two of my targets got ripped off by wind!

The groups weren't great, mostly around 1.3inch but more horizontally spread like this one below. Vertical spreads seemed decent though, all generally within an inch, so perhaps I can blame the wind. Will try again on a better day. At least I managed to get my dope relatively well tuned.

Also decided to buy a bravo chassis to try out which will hopefully arrive on Tuesday. If it works fine then j might save the ACC for a center fire later on.

 

[Emerson0311]

I agree with you guys both but SK match if is only available to me at a further away shop and so I went Tenex partly out of convenience. It's also the cheapest out of the top shelf stuff (Midas and r50) for me too.

Tried suppressed too but my groups opened up so the harmonics probably didn't work out for me on that one.

Have seen people with rifles that shot cheaper ammo better than expensive stuff but it's never happened to my unfortunately...

Was trying to get some info go true up my dope on Tenex and also wanted to shoot some groups today at 100m but it was real stormy. Two of my targets got ripped off by wind!

The groups weren't great, mostly around 1.3inch but more horizontally spread like this one below. Vertical spreads seemed decent though, all generally within an inch, so perhaps I can blame the wind. Will try again on a better day. At least I managed to get my dope relatively well tuned.

Also decided to buy a bravo chassis to try out which will hopefully arrive on Tuesday. If it works fine then j might save the ACC for a center fire later on.

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I’ve found 5 shot groups do not give me reliable data on expected group size for 22LR. 10 shot groups seem to be a bit more representative of what I can expect from a selected ammo.