For what its worth, I recently shot 5 - 5 shot groups @ 50 yds with my all stock T1X with a random lot of Center-X , starting with a clean barrel, the average for all 5 was .324", this with a 14x scope shot from a bipod and rear bag.
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Can't beat that. Was that with Tikka #3?For what its worth, I recently shot 5 - 5 shot groups @ 50 yds with my all stock T1X with a random lot of Center-X , starting with a clean barrel, the average for all 5 was .324", this with a 14x scope shot from a bipod and rear bag.
Can't beat that. Was that with Tikka #3?
Very nice, rim star. On the subject of cleaning how/what/when? I would like to settle in on a regular procedure. I just clean 22lr now and then, when I figure it has been a while. I shoot sporting clays and clean shotguns every time I shoot. Deer rifles once a year or as needed. Air rifle , almost never. What say you KOD , eoddave , rim star? You boys are way ahead of me on this 22 stuff and I really appreciate all I have learned from guys on this site.
Ahh, the million dollar question with the million answers to go with every dollar. You could ask 50 people and get 50 different answers from different methods and items to use. Some will say clean after every shooting session, some say once a year some say never. As for me, I clean only when I believe the fouling is affecting function or accuracy, other than that I don't clean a 22 rimfire barrel. I don't know as I ever cleaned that Tikka T1x I sold rim-star.
When I do clean, my cleaning regime is very simple. I run two wet patches down the bore, I remove each patch at the muzzle, never pulling back through. I then run a wet copper brush through and out the muzzle and pull back through and I do this ten times. Some may remove the brush and never pull it back through and that's fine with me, people do what they want. As for me, I have never experienced a decrease in accuracy that I could say the root cause was pulling the brush back through the barrel. There's always a possibility to damage the crown but if you have to have confidence in what you do. After the ten strokes with the brush I run as many wet patches needed to get a clean one, usually three does it. After that I run 1-2 dry patches and I'm done. Some may wonder why I only run 10 strokes with a brush and why not 50 or 15 or "pick a number". The reason is because 1, I have never gotten a clean patch right after using a brush. In the past, say 25 years ago I used to brush the hell out of a barrel and thinking this might be the one, and every single time the first patch after brushing always came out black. What I'm saying is you will get the same results if you run that brush through 10 times or 100 times or 10 times in 10 different increments. First patch after the brush will ALWAYS come out black. That is why I decided on 10 strokes with a brush a long time ago. I use two wet patches in the beginning to remove all the loose powder and fouling. Usually takes 2-3 wet patches to get a clean one after brushing. Usually it takes 2 dry patches at the end to get a dry barrel. That's my cleaning method.
Equipment I use are Deweys one piece nylon coated rod in .17 caliber; you have to use their adapter to fit the .22 caliber jags and brushes. I use either Deweys or ProShot bronze/copper brushes, I use Parker-Hale brass jags, ProShot 1-1/8" square patches and Shooters Choice MC-7 bore cleaner and I have used it mixed 50/50 with Kroil. Another thing, I always use a rod guide if possible.
IMO, in the end, there's only two methods to never clean a barrel and those are from the muzzle end "unless you have no other option" and using a steel wire brush. Other than that pretty much anything goes. The most important thing you can do is have confidence in what you are doing.
I have been using Bore Tech Carbon C4 to clean the carbon ring , its does a good job if you let it soak for about 30 mins, you can use a jag and a patch or even a Q -Tip with a small patch on it and let it soak.
How do you determine how deep to go? I never know if I'm past the ring or haven't reached it. I usually guess based on the 22 case length
I'm curious about this as well. Have read a couple of good experiences with the IBI T1x barrel. Haven't seen much about the Lothar Walther barrel.
Their specifications are slightly different, so far I have collected the following:
Code:International Barrels Inc. Canada Chamber: Calfee4 Material: 416R Stainless Steel Proces: Button Rifled Twist: 1-16” Groove: 8 Crown: 11 Degree Target Diameter: 0.920" Length: 20" Lothar Walther USA Chamber: - unknown - Material: Stainless Steel (HW50?) Proces: Button Rifled Twist: 1-16” Groove: 6 Crown: - unknown - Diameter: 0.900" Length: 20.50"
I'm about to bite the bullet and order a barrel from IBI, I like the fat 0.920" profile and so far customer service has been good.
This is what I found onlineI was not aware there is such a thing as a Calfee4 chamber. Can anyone shed more light on what that is?
TKH
This is what I found online
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That looks like a mini Barrett 50 cal.Did some testing and found out my rifle really likes SK Standard Plus. Best groups were with Standard plus and best average if I didn´t count a flyer I caused myself.
Today I will verify drop-data out to 150m to really learn how to dial for the ammo. looking forward to it!
I will also try the new muzzle brake to see if it makes a difference in grouping!
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Take a look at the Vortex Strike Eagle 5-25 x 56 look around and you can find pretty good deals on them. I would go with MIL as it is more universal as far as what others are using and is a little easier to use. MOA will work fine they are both just numbers. Though you may have good luck finding a used MOA scope at a good price.Hi guys I’ve been lurking for a while figured it was time to join up. I’m looking for opinions on a scope to run in base class for the T1x. I’m just getting my feet wet haven’t even been to a match yet but plan on joining some friends as well using this as a trainer for my T3. From my reading so far seems like the Vortex diamondback tactical and athlon Argos seem popular. I’m new to the long range game as far as holding over or dialing so I don’t really have a preference between mil or moa. I appreciate any insight.
Anyone know the status of Left Handed T1X's? Seem to be unobtanium but I may not know where to look...
Take a look at the Vortex Strike Eagle 5-25 x 56 look around and you can find pretty good deals on them. I would go with MIL as it is more universal as far as what others are using and is a little easier to use. MOA will work fine they are both just numbers. Though you may have good luck finding a used MOA scope at a good price.
Now that I have decided how I want my T1X to be , I have a few T1X goodies to part with but I cant post them for sale on this site because I am too new. Some of the rimfire central guys left me flat and Im not much interested in that site anymore. That being said I would like to offer the goodies to the guys on this site/this forum. Any thoughts on the matter?
Alot of guys will run an Argos BTR Gen from Athlon. Pretty decent FFP scope for the pricethanksI’ll take a look at it butit’s price range would put me in open class
The 17 HMR version in LH has appeared here in Canada, with word that the 22 LR won't land until 2021. What were they thinking???
Maketh no sense...Oh well. My son's a lefty and I think it'd be a good one for him. Good things come to those who wait?
I wonder if you could get the LH hmr version, swap the barrel to an aftermarket .22 barrel (plus get a .22 magazine), then sell the hmr barrel? Rifles like the quad and cz455 can change from .22LR/.22MAG/.17HMR and its only the barrel and magazine being changed. Probably need to run it by a gunsmith, but just an idea.The 17 HMR version in LH has appeared here in Canada, with word that the 22 LR won't land until 2021. What were they thinking???