That was an interesting move, popping up behind their lines had to be a surprise.
Its hard to speculate anything right now. Guess we will find out soon enough.
Ukraine war Bullshit.
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That was an interesting move, popping up behind their lines had to be a surprise.
Its hard to speculate anything right now. Guess we will find out soon enough.
but,but the Russians have very low morale,they have shitty gear,poor leadership and are incompetent!
he's right about at least one thing...
the leaders in the eu don't want to give up and lose face with ongoing election seasons.
they would look like ignorant fools that paid for the futile sacrifice of brave ukrainians in a manufactured conflict (which they are).
trump is the only one of the involved leaders that were not part of this from the start of the war.
he's the only one with a free opinion and so he is the only one that wants to consider peace.
also wants to invite american mining companies to exploit resources in russia.
he wants to build hydro power plants to feed the beast (like aluminum processing) if there is interest.
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There are several non-NATO air forces that have combat power that would pimp-slap Russia around like a rag doll quite easily. They have air forces far more powerful than the UK or Germany. It’s just that most people have no clue about modern force structures, current operational platforms, combat capabilities, and how well they are plugged-into US arms programs.
At least one of these nations has territorial disputes with Russia dating back generations, and has defeated Russia in the past with embarrassing overmatch.
The US committed to helping secure Ukraine from aggression in exchange for Ukraine surrendering her nukes and strategic nuclear-delivery systems (included Tu-160s). Russia violated this agreement multiple times under the leadership of Vladimir wannabe Tsar Putin, who could have used his resources to build up Russian infrastructure instead of murdering people at a scale not seen since WWII.
A lot of you guys have been corrupted successfully by Russian propaganda, to the extent that a nation defending itself from invasion is blamed for being attacked, civilians murdered for 3 years, refugee crisis created, while Putin is placed on a pedestal or as a victim.
Remember that CIA and USAID were co-opted by the Soviets out of the gate. They even used one of the early Russian double agents to recruit a Navy officer who later became Director under Carter. This dates way back before any of you were paying attention, and you’re decades-late trying to figure it all out.
Z doesn't have the cards, DJT was correct on this, so why should Putin stop his aggression or give his enemy a chance to catch their breath?
Beside who has the forces or willingness to dive in on Uke side? No one, EU talking smack , they aren't going to do a damn thing.
Stop sending American money and arms there.
I think Russia, would welcome USA (and EU)companies working with them in these areas and others not mentioned . But it brings to mind Trumps opinion on Nord, he wanted it stopped. And has been fairly vocal about it and his part in pressing the Germans to back away. Soo ehh if it could actually come to fruition
Still early in this , we will see what shakes down.
First gotta stop trying to destroy one another.
i think i remember he had encouraged more lng terminal capacity and wanted america to benefit instead of russians.
in light of the fact that we spend hundreds of billions to defend europe against "russia", it seems logical to limit dependence on a potential rival,
and as it turns out, he was right, and europe is buying enough russian gas, they are actually funding both sides of the conflict.
It’s certainly interesting watching Europeans, especially Germans, criticizing Trump when it was they who were actively engaged in becoming more reliant on Russian oil and NG during Trump’s 1st term.
Trump literally had to threaten Germany with placing them on the US NDAA in 2019 to get them to abandon Putin’s Nordstream 2 pipeline.
What’s the first thing Biden’s handlers had him do on Day 1 in the Oval Office?
Cancel Keystone XL Pipeline (which would have benefitted the US and Canada and lowered energy costs for both of us)
Then in May of 2021:
Green-light Putin’s Nordstream 2 pipeline, reversing Trump’s strategic policies that were designed to wean Europe off of Russian energy dependence.
Panzer1 was never meant to fight, panzer 2 was a reconnaissance tank, panzer 3 was good but had little development options, panzer 4 was good, Panther had issues that were mainly slave labour and alloy shortage related than bad design, tiger had better soft ground performance than a lot of tanks, anywhere a normal person could stand on one foot would be safe to drive. King tiger was pushing the limit of a lot of aspects in terms of overall weight but ground pressure was good, we have German reports of King Tigers recovering panzer 4s and subsequently traversing the terrain where they were stuck.
T-34 76 was a little under gunned plus a 2 man turret, soviets knew about the issues but weren't planning on getting into a war with the Germans so soon, T-34 85 was more in the L48 class of guns than the long 75s or kwk 88 but still a decent tank. IS-2 uses 2 piece ammunition of large enough size that any sort of hit was bad, no real novel aspects just a big slow firing gun. IS-2 was relative specialist piece of equipment and was used as such.
M4 was an ok tank for 1942, pity time moved forward. M24 was a needed upgrade to the M3/5, M26 was in no way clearly better than the Tiger 1 that came out three years before.
Cromwell, good tank that finally had an overly powerful engine in the form of the Rolls-Royce Meteor, allowed the British to almost double the frontal armour without the need to even remove the engine limiter. Comet was decent with it's bastardised 77mm gun that could actually fire APDS accurately. Churchill ended the with 150mm frontal armour and was a very survivalable, made for infantry support which it did well, somewhat slow but the rate of the allied advance never outstripped it's unimpressive pace, by most accounts it had phenomenal cross country and hill climbing abilities and was the first tank that could neutral turn.
No notable Japanese tanks, apart from the Type 95 that gave M4s way more trouble on Tarawa than they had any right to. Italians could only make armour plate for tanks in small sections despite making effective warships, hence their blocky, riveted nature.
am I the only one who wants nato to crumble and the u.s. enter in an alliance with Russia, India, Hungary, Poland, and a few others.
I may be the only one, idk, but I think it'd be better than the bullshit we got going on now.
I may be the only one, idk, but I think it'd be better than the bullshit we got going on now.
But the majority of that money doesn't go into funding the Government or directly funding the war. Yes there are places the Gov makes $ like land lease deals on exploration and production rigs, taxes etc. But most of the profits are going to the companies, at least on the western side.
On the Russian side as it is majority state owned Gazprom is likely pushing a good bit of $ back into the Government.
Which sheds some light on why western investment is a bit of an issue.
Russia would have to be seen as not an enemy. Which is something I personally would like to see, not attempting to demonize them. I'd personally rather good relations with Russia than Ukraine(though I would like to see both), we stand to gain more in the long term. Then attempting this idiotic move in Ukraine.
Normalizing relations with Russia should be a no-brainer.
And don't forget the mediterranean countries. The Italians, Spanish and Greeks aren't completely insane (yet). There's a steady stream of mudscum "refugee" boats heading to italian and greek beaches every day, sending those to the bottom of the ocean would be doing europe a favor.
The problem is we don't really have the political will to do what's right. Too many liberals, globalists and neocons who want refugees from shithole countries, endless wars, Putin makes a good bogeyman for their purposes too.
Lots and lots of Loyal Komrades on here.
That's actually what sparked my interest in this place.
It's so BIZARRE, and so incredibly DELISH to see the propaganda that I casually-monitor-for-fun get repeated and seconded by folks who actually fell for it.
It was a VERY short time ago in this country when spouting Commie talking points in the gun community was physically dangerous.
It's a good thing you are here to set everybody straight.
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