I'm 6 foot and do have a longish neck. I set up all my rifles for the prone position if that matters? And I'm sure my fundamentals are horrible!
Vudoo Gun Works V-22 Rimfire Bolt Action
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nikonNUT's eye piece looks about the same location as mine, I'm 6' 3", his might look farther forward though, because the main tube is shorter.
Any one piece mount (Spuhr, ARC, MPA, etc) is going to have the rings exactly where yours are.So serious question from an overly paranoid Vudoo owner...
Would y'all move that back ring further back or let it eat? The front one has to say where it is for eye relief reasons but would the gurus of the rimfire realm move it or no? Thank you for the input and let the flaming begin!
I'm running a Cronus on a 40moa rail and have 7.6 mils under my zero stop, I should have enough to go to a 60moa rail, but haven't tried...yet.
ETA: I've got a 50 yard zero.
SpreadSo serious question from an overly paranoid Vudoo owner...
Would y'all move that back ring further back or let it eat? The front one has to say where it is for eye relief reasons but would the gurus of the rimfire realm move it or no? Thank you for the input and let the flaming begin!
Spread rings. I think scope is far enough back.So serious question from an overly paranoid Vudoo owner...
Would y'all move that back ring further back or let it eat? The front one has to say where it is for eye relief reasons but would the gurus of the rimfire realm move it or no? Thank you for the input and let the flaming begin!
Well gents, just wanted to offer a heartfelt thanks for the input and suggetions on ring location. Added about .5" to the LOP (finger is still at a solid 90 degrees and I can stab the mag release no problem) and reset the scope. Got sent home early (Sleeting to beat the band. Gotta love Febuary's in Arkansas) so I had daylight to look out the door to set everything up in a proper prone position. Much happier with where the rings sit and that I am farther away from the scopes "guts" Looks like the scopes center shifted back about one slot so pretty much the same location. One more lousy kitchen pic and I'll stop! Time to zero and shoot groups!!!
Time to zero and shoot groups!!!
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I followed a lot of the snipers hide training -
1. Positioning of the rifle is now more centerline with the body on the collar bone instead of the shoulder crease.
2. Height of rings as high as possible that your cheek riser will allow to prevent less tilting of the head.
Your rifle is looking great, go out and have some fun!
1. Positioning of the rifle is now more centerline with the body on the collar bone instead of the shoulder crease.
2. Height of rings as high as possible that your cheek riser will allow to prevent less tilting of the head.
Your rifle is looking great, go out and have some fun!
Thank you kindly @littlepod! That is good info to have , sir. I wish I could run higher rings but, sadly, all of the stocked rifles I have lack in check riser height. A chassis or a Manners TCC-PRS stock might be in the future and that might facilitate higher rings. I will give the colarbone thing a try! Thank you for the tips.
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My buddy has a 60 moa rail and a strike eagle. He has about a half mil left over with SK rifle match. Cutting it a little close but it works.
Vudoo 360 with a 20” ace barrel.
I just put in my order. The rifle is a Gen 3, RBLP, 20 inch Kukri barrel, Diamond Tech trigger, Foundation Genesis stock in dark distress color. The barreled action is burnt orange. Now the wait begins.
Well DANG! The Vudoo makes my sorry ass look good! Got her zeroed and 1st group was in the .2s at 50 yards. I should have done this sooner!!!
Got her zeroed and 1st group was in the .2s at 50 yards. I should have done this sooner!!!
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Vudoo is like buying points at a match. I am a believer now!
What ammo are you running?Well DANG! The Vudoo makes my sorry ass look good!
The new Vudoo and XLR Envy Pro go together like peanut butter and jelly
That's a long way form the T1x.The new Vudoo and XLR Envy Pro go together like peanut butter and jelly
Edit: How much does it weigh and how do you like the SendIt level? I just picked one up in the PX and have only used it at the range breaking in brass and working up a load for my 6GT, so I'm just getting used to it. I like that I don't have to look at it to know if I'm level/out of level AND which direction. What sensitivity?
That's a long way form the T1x.
Edit: How much does it weigh and how do you like the SendIt level? I just picked one up in the PX and have only used it at the range breaking in brass and working up a load for my 6GT, so I'm just getting used to it. I like that I don't have to look at it to know if I'm level/out of level AND which direction. What sensitivity?
It weighs 18lbs as pictured. Running 1 internal weight and the externals to get the wider footprint for the bags. You can drop a lot of weight if you remove all the extra weights, get you down into the 13.5lb range I think.
The send-it level just reduces the time and lets me get level really quickly. Pretty brain dead to use. Red means turn the right, and bLue means left. I didn't adjust any sensitivity settings so I'm not sure. I also can see the green light when I'm on support side the way mine is mounted so I can use it. Only downside is forgetting to turn it off and letting it bounce in the back of the car for an hour drive and then the battery is dead.
I went with the 60 degree throw to match my Terminus Zeus.
Absolutely love the C6 buttstock. I think it's the nicest engineered one out of all the other ones I've used MPA and ACC. Thumb screws are captured and hold tight. No play in the cheek and LoP. And it's light at only 24oz!
I put a Send-iT on mine too, it's a cool gadget. I left it on the default settings too. Need to get some spare batteries to throw in my range bag.
@littlepod What's the minimum LOP on the C6 buttstock?
One reason I like the XLRs so much is the precise LOP adjustment, and the ability to go down to 12.5" ish +/-.
Looks like yours is at minimum? What the LOP from trigger curve to rear of butt pad if you don't mind?
And of course, the obligatory XLR/V22/ZCO pic
One reason I like the XLRs so much is the precise LOP adjustment, and the ability to go down to 12.5" ish +/-.
Looks like yours is at minimum? What the LOP from trigger curve to rear of butt pad if you don't mind?
And of course, the obligatory XLR/V22/ZCO pic
@littlepod What's the minimum LOP on the C6 buttstock?
One reason I like the XLRs so much is the precise LOP adjustment, and the ability to go down to 12.5" ish +/-.
Looks like yours is at minimum? What the LOP from trigger curve to rear of butt pad if you don't mind?
And of course, the obligatory XLR/V22/ZCO pic
You will want the shorter buttstock then if you are going to do 12.5" ish. I have the longer run that goes from 13.5" minimum to 14.5". The shorter one I believe goes from 12" to 13"
I personally am most comfortable at 13.3" so I'm in a little of a no man's land, but XLR will have a new thinner buttpad coming out that will drop 1/4" so that'll basically change the LoP from 13.25" to 14.25" or 11.75" to 12.75" so I'll be good once I can order in the new buttpad.
In the picture I am running at exactly 13.5" verified with a TT 2-stage flat shoe.
Yeh instead of waiting for the new XLR buttpad, I need to figure out what model pad that'll fit the screw pattern and order something thinner.
Can someone confirm if I buy a voodoo will the mags work if I use a badger ordnance M5 bottom metal. Just making sure forgive me if it has been asked before
Best double check that with the bottom metal in hand. When I tried two badger BDM's at MHSA, the vudoo mags I had literally fell right through them with no engagement of the mag release at. Went with Hawkins Precision M5 DBM instead as they retained the mags properly.
Keep in mind that Vudoo is on at least 3 generations of magazines at this point in early 2022. My last four mags (3rd gen+) are longer then the previous 7 (2nd gen) by about .012-.015" the Previous 1st gen mags I had prior to those were also longer. I need to measure the new ones and see what the dimensional differences are. This is kind of irritating as I had modified a Hawkins magwell to eliminate any rocking on a barricade stop and now the new 3rd mags will not fit in it
Soooooo, I got the call yesterday! My 360 is in route, by the tracking number it arrives next Wednesday!!! I am stoked!
@Tiger_Shilone
I am almost certainly "carrying coals to Newcastle" with this reply but just in case. I cured several of my Vudoo mag seating/feeding issues by replacing the default mag latch in the Hawkins Precision M5 DBM bottom metal with the Hawkins Precision M5 Long Magazine Latch. But it does not always work. In one case the magazine sat too high and the bolt would not cycle smoothly because it was in contact with the last several millimeters of the magazine follower.
As I posted before the tolerances for smooth feeding and bolt cycling are extremely small. If one were a machinist, one could use the Hawkins Precision M5 DBM with the Hawkins Long Magazine Latch and shorten the length of the latch if it were a few mils too long or machine a new latch that was a few mils longer than the Hawkins Long Latch if the long latch were too short. If one is not a machinist, as I am not, only can buy and try, hoping the tolerances interact constructively.
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OK from what I have researched mags will fit but I might have to do so modifications to my bottom metal. Is filing the mag catch for proper lift real easy to do? Was kind of wanting the voodoo over the rimx. Now I'm leaning more towards a rimx due to the mags being adjustable. With the voodoo theirs a chance I might have to mod my bottom metal should that be a deal breaker? Right now that is my only concern on the voodoo. What problems are people experiencing with the rimx if any?
It's usually just a mag latch.. either some stock/chassis have an adjustable one or you ask for a longer one and file it down. I've never seen someone have to mod their bottom metal, just swap out the mag latch.
The concerns with Vudoo are primarily magazine related.
The concerns with RimX, I'd say are issues with light strikes and some prefit barrels having inconsistent chambering issues which a few companies have updated and gotten better now so that probably isn't too much of a concern especially if you go with a reputable smith.
The concerns with Vudoo are primarily magazine related.
The concerns with RimX, I'd say are issues with light strikes and some prefit barrels having inconsistent chambering issues which a few companies have updated and gotten better now so that probably isn't too much of a concern especially if you go with a reputable smith.
Littlepod of the two in your opinion which is the one with the least problems. My plan is to buy a barreled action just have not made up my mind on which of the 2 I should get
If you are too lazy to pay attention when loading magazines, then I would say the Vudoo has more problems. If you are fine loading a magazine correctly, I've seen much more RimX issues that were more costly during a match. Stuck rounds/casings are horrendous to get out on a RimX.
I've seen people F up when using a Vudoo, but it's easy as dropping the mag and swapping and going. Costs you like 5s. RimX could basically cost you up to 30s or zeroing out the rest of the stage.
I did call voodoo and they said they are working on making their mags to have the ability to adjust them so when they do come out you no longer need to swap the mag catch
I ordered on 11/01/2021 and was given a projected delivery of 04/05/2022. I agree!! New trucks are nice to get but a new special smoke pole is something entirely different.
34 weeks? I have to ask... What special option did you request? I did a fairly plain Ravage and recieved it 17 weeks.
The wait was mostly due to the fact it's a right bolt left port repeater.
Was extremely glad when the wait ended!
LONG RANGE VUDOO CHALLENGE
After reading the Vudoo Instagram post on long range shooting, I propose a long range shooting challenge. It could be simple as any small caliber rimfire cartridge, any distance, any size target and the percentage of hits for any number of rounds. However, a bit more structure is necessary for competition.
One set of possibilities is distance in 100yd increments starting at 200yd and going to maximum limit bullet can travel. I know 200yd is "short range" but it is the longest distance at my range. The next specification are the target sizes which could be disks with diameters in 1.0 MOA increments starting at 1.0 MOA and going as large as one wants. Finally, the number of shots which could be in increments of 10 starting with ten. The score is the percentage of holes/impacts. A lot of possible catagories from which a few would become popular unless you wanted to compete against yourself.
The shooter with the greater percentage of impacts in a catagory would be the current gold medalist, second the silver and third the bronze. For example, "Dead-Eye" Dan is the current gold medalist in the 800yd 3MOA class with 85% impacts, "Kentucky Windage" Ken is silver with 53% impacts and "Blind" Bill is bronze with 29%. In case of ties in percentage with different numbers of shots, highest number of shots wins.
The allowable support could be anything or restricted. I would really like to see what the "Hotel Sierra" benchrest shooters could do with their single shot Vudoo rigs and one-piece mechanical rests at long distance on a dead calm day. Of course everyone would shoot on dead calm days if they could.
No time limit, just all shots in one sitting.
All kinds of strategy possible. For example on a dead calm day, a "magic" box of ammo and you are in the zone with 20 impacts in 30 shots for 67%. Do you go for broke trying to increase that percentage with 40 shots or perhaps the whole box?
Could start a thread where everyone posts their own results with a photo of the paper target or steel target and your rig if you want.
All the above are suggestions because the hour of long range Vudoo shooting is upon us.
UPDATE: 2022-03-08 1530 PST
I created a post, Results for Long Range Shooting with Small Caliber Rimfire Ammunition, which reflect a day's evolution in my thinking on the subject. Really more about just having fun doing long range shooting. Anything goes but recording more information than is often done.
After reading the Vudoo Instagram post on long range shooting, I propose a long range shooting challenge. It could be simple as any small caliber rimfire cartridge, any distance, any size target and the percentage of hits for any number of rounds. However, a bit more structure is necessary for competition.
One set of possibilities is distance in 100yd increments starting at 200yd and going to maximum limit bullet can travel. I know 200yd is "short range" but it is the longest distance at my range. The next specification are the target sizes which could be disks with diameters in 1.0 MOA increments starting at 1.0 MOA and going as large as one wants. Finally, the number of shots which could be in increments of 10 starting with ten. The score is the percentage of holes/impacts. A lot of possible catagories from which a few would become popular unless you wanted to compete against yourself.
The shooter with the greater percentage of impacts in a catagory would be the current gold medalist, second the silver and third the bronze. For example, "Dead-Eye" Dan is the current gold medalist in the 800yd 3MOA class with 85% impacts, "Kentucky Windage" Ken is silver with 53% impacts and "Blind" Bill is bronze with 29%. In case of ties in percentage with different numbers of shots, highest number of shots wins.
The allowable support could be anything or restricted. I would really like to see what the "Hotel Sierra" benchrest shooters could do with their single shot Vudoo rigs and one-piece mechanical rests at long distance on a dead calm day. Of course everyone would shoot on dead calm days if they could.
No time limit, just all shots in one sitting.
All kinds of strategy possible. For example on a dead calm day, a "magic" box of ammo and you are in the zone with 20 impacts in 30 shots for 67%. Do you go for broke trying to increase that percentage with 40 shots or perhaps the whole box?
Could start a thread where everyone posts their own results with a photo of the paper target or steel target and your rig if you want.
All the above are suggestions because the hour of long range Vudoo shooting is upon us.
UPDATE: 2022-03-08 1530 PST
I created a post, Results for Long Range Shooting with Small Caliber Rimfire Ammunition, which reflect a day's evolution in my thinking on the subject. Really more about just having fun doing long range shooting. Anything goes but recording more information than is often done.
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Like it.
Could maybe use a simple Google Sheets based online form, that feeds into a Leader Board?
I'm happy to help with that if needed.
Could maybe use a simple Google Sheets based online form, that feeds into a Leader Board?
I'm happy to help with that if needed.
I've been doing 50 shots at 350 yards. Sort of a copy of justin amateur's 50 at 200. https://www.snipershide.com/shooting/threads/50-rounds-at-350-yards.6949113/ I think another thread would be good.
@BillOH
Not to embarrass another what are your group sizes? But I have a drum to beat about difference between accuracy groups and precision groups. A precision group measures the dispersion about the center of the group, which can be significantly displaced from the AP. An accuracy group measures the number of shots within a predetermined area, usually a circle. Good accuracy requires good precision but also good centering of the group about the AP and therefore is more difficult than a precision group. Since the aim, pun intended, is to hit what you are aiming at, I would argue good accuracy groups are more relevant than good precision groups.
Rick
I went back and re-read my thread where I shot many different steel targets. A 15" square, an A/C IPSC and a Pepper Popper. It really depends on the weather, ammo etc. Some days I do pretty well and other days I'm just wasting ammo. For accuracy, I fire a limited number of rounds, often 50, and only counted hits. Precision group size went from 15" down to 5". I'm not embarrassed, I'm just having fun.
Vudoo Nubie looking for help…
- Bought my first Vudoo… it’s a new 360 w/MTU 20”
- started to drop it in my MPA ba comp and noticed that the action screws were too long… Can someone help me with the right spec on what I need?
- Also, I went to the site to pick up a couple of mags and really couldn’t tell the difference between the 3 shown.. What’s the right path?
I know these are really basic questions but I appreciate all the advice
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- Bought my first Vudoo… it’s a new 360 w/MTU 20”
- started to drop it in my MPA ba comp and noticed that the action screws were too long… Can someone help me with the right spec on what I need?
- Also, I went to the site to pick up a couple of mags and really couldn’t tell the difference between the 3 shown.. What’s the right path?
I know these are really basic questions but I appreciate all the advice
B
Oddly enough a friend just got his Vudoo and has the same issue with too long action screws on a MPA. Told him to contact MPA but tagging this in case anyone has a different answer or solution.
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