It does. The early DBMs had a smaller trigger guard, I've since made a revision so the trigger shoe isn't as close.
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It does. The early DBMs had a smaller trigger guard, I've since made a revision so the trigger shoe isn't as close.
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I have an earlier Dbm. I'll order up the TTD with flat lever then. There is approximately 0.04" of clearance with the curved 510. Thank you.
Those of you who put your Vudoo into a Manners stock, did you splurge for the mini chassis option?
T4A gen 2 mini-chassis here. Works/Feels great.
My MCS-T gen1 mini-chassis doesn't drop the mags but isn't too tight, but the gen2 mini-chassis fits the mags perfectly and drops them every time. I think my 4 mags have wide front dimensions. Not sure if all Vudoo mags are that way. Also not sure that's a bad thing since I hate mag wobble. I also have one new ambi MPA that drops em, but another older lefty with a castle cut that pinches up front.
The best solution? My $0.02: Buy a COMPLETE rifle from Vudoo, then experiment as you want to try other chassis out, YMMV. But this way you know you'll have a ready to run setup from day 1!
But don't hesitate at all on a Manners gen2 mini-chassis, IMHO.
My MCS-T gen1 mini-chassis doesn't drop the mags but isn't too tight, but the gen2 mini-chassis fits the mags perfectly and drops them every time. I think my 4 mags have wide front dimensions. Not sure if all Vudoo mags are that way. Also not sure that's a bad thing since I hate mag wobble. I also have one new ambi MPA that drops em, but another older lefty with a castle cut that pinches up front.
The best solution? My $0.02: Buy a COMPLETE rifle from Vudoo, then experiment as you want to try other chassis out, YMMV. But this way you know you'll have a ready to run setup from day 1!
But don't hesitate at all on a Manners gen2 mini-chassis, IMHO.
Got to shoot a few groups through my V22 today with 22" Bartlein Kukri profile barrel, bolted into a Manners PRS2 mini chassis stock. The first two 5 shot groups (after 20 fouling rounds) averaged 1081 fps and had an ES of 24. The next 10 rounds averaged 1070 and had an ES of 14 as the bore seasoned for this round. These are the last two five shot groups at 100 yards with this load, fired on an indoor range. The lot number from Ely had this lot rated at 1056 fps. I had bought a couple boxes to try in the rifle and now I can't find anymore of this lot.
That’s really nice. Also jealous that you have access to an 100 yard indoor.
It is Ely match in the black box. From this page:
https://goodshootinginc.com/index.php?categoryID=576
https://goodshootinginc.com/index.php?categoryID=576
Oh my Lord - is this for real?!? What a great day in America when a sitting President's son is pictured with the premier made-in-America 22RF rifle. Makes me proud to be an American, and a V-22 owner!
Picked up my Vudoo yesterday, looking forward to getting to the range. It was a great buying experience with VGW no matter how may questions I had they were eager to answer them. The communications are second to none and the build was a few weeks ahead of schedule.
Yessir, he bought two; the MAGA rifle (pictured) and one for his kids. Awesome Dude....
MB
im sure everyone got the email, but heres what VGW recommends for ammo:
"Ammo Recommendations:
Eley Tennex, Lapua Center X and RWS Special Match all consistently produce the best groups. However, those are the top of the food chain for quality and price! For half the price we have excellent results with SK Standard Plus and SK Rifle Match. "
"Ammo Recommendations:
Eley Tennex, Lapua Center X and RWS Special Match all consistently produce the best groups. However, those are the top of the food chain for quality and price! For half the price we have excellent results with SK Standard Plus and SK Rifle Match. "
I spent all morning at the Lapua Test Center today testing 2 Vudoo rifles. I'll get a review together over the next few days. Right now I'm too tired after my 5 1/2 return trip turned into and 8 1/2 drive because of the winter storm that rolled through the path of my trip.
My V22 has done well with CCI SV at 50/100/200. I've shot it in 100/200 bench rest matches multiple times against guys shooting R50, Midas+, and X-Act and wasn't embarrassed. Maybe the last case I bought was magic..... hoping the other two I have are close.
Best 20 shot groups I've shot at 200 was with R50. Center-X, SK Pistol Match, and SK Std+ also do well. The lot of SK Rifle Match and Tenex I've shot didn't impress me. But I'm shooting outdoors at a range well known for tricky winds so there's always an unknown factor.
A lot are using shorter barrel so they can install suppressors making rifle much balance..for us living in stupid states (lol) that dont have that privilege.dnt mind getting longer barrel for that extra fps
Kukri, no info yet. My rifle should be in my hands in a couple weeks and I just ordered the tuner yesterday. According to an article I read written by Purdy, he stated barrels between 22 and 25 inches are best for tuning in the 9th harmonic. I'll post my results in the next few weeks.
https://jeffusc.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/prx-ii.xls
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I went with a JNL ordered from Killough. One of my shooting buddies has tried every tuner out there and swears these are the best.
https://www.killoughshootingsports.com/index.php/tuners/jnl-prx-iii-tuner.html
Ahhmy barrel is threaded
I deleted the threaded muzzle when I ordered mine, with the intent of tuning it.
We've seen the best performance from Amtac and Thunderbeast, but we've not shot everything out there, so there's likely others that perform as well.
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I bought a SWR Spectre II when I got my first 22RF repeater built on a Stiller 2500XR action, and also used it on a couple of 40X repeaters. Never had any doubt about whether it had any negative effect on accuracy on any of those three rifles. But being the TBAC fanboy that I am, I bought a 22TD after buying the 1st V-22 action. I shot the V-22 with the Spectre II for a bit while waiting on the stamp to come in for the 22TD, and again, had no complaints with it. After getting the stamp for the 22TD, I found that it has far less '1st round pop' than the Spectre II. That may be the only real difference between the two suppressors, but whatever the case, I'm very pleased with both these cans.
Finally joined the group. Just need trigger, bipod mount and new scope mount.
I use a Tactical Solutions Axiom and have no reason to consider another brand. Small and lightweight, first round report is minimal, no effect on accuracy, POI shift is minimal, and it's rated up to .22 Hornet.
Lapua Ammo Test Center Review:
I made my appointment last month over the phone. I drove from Vegas to Phoenix the day before and spent the night in the area because my appointment was at 8am. The next morning I arrived at the Nammo facility around 7:40 and checked in at the guard gate and was told to wait for my escort which was Daniel the guy who does the testing. This facility is a ammunition manufacturing and testing facility. They make military caliber ammunition from smaller caliber up to artillery ammo including the LAWS rocket. It is a sprawling facility.
Dan met me at 8:10 and we drove the short distance to the testing site . This is a CONEX that has been converted into a separate office and addition room where the testing is done. Coming out of the end of the CONEX is a 5ft diameter concrete pipe that the bullet travels down. This one is 100 yards long and parallel to it was was another similar building and pipe that Nammouses for testing heavier caliber ammowhere a medium size round is 50 caliber.
We removed my barreled action from my chassis and mounted it in the testing block that Mike at Vudoo had manufactured for them to use with the V22 action. It is a very nice piece. That block with my barreled action if then mounter in a heavy duty vice that is bolted down to their base. My scopes were already zeroes to 50 yards so he just used my scope to bore site everything in the pipe. They run optical sensors at 50 and 100 yards to track the bullet flight and placement. It would be like shooting groups on paper but it displays those groups on 2 computer monitors, one for each distance and with the bullet not shooting through material at 50 yards they can get undisturbed shot information at 100 yards simultaneously.
When asked what ammunition that I was interested in testing I had decided Lapua Center X and maybe some Midas Plus as well. He selected 8 lots of Center X and we began. First 10 rounds to warm up and foul my previously cleaned barrel. After that we began by loading and shooting 10 round strings of each lot. Each shot was plotted and displayed by the computer on individual monitors shot by shot for 50 and 100 yards. There equipment being I believe German origin displayed all information in mm so I used an app on my phone to do conversions that I understood. The groups and information is also displayed as a maximum diameter from the outside of each bullet rather than center to center so I took that into account as well. Basically I was looking for 20mm at 50 yards and 30mm at 100 yards which was within 1/16" or less of 1moa at each distance.
As we proceeded testing lot after lot we found some that shot well and others not so much. When we found a lot with potential we would shoot a 2nd or possibly 3rd 10 round string. Some of them might shoot great only to have a single shot that killed the group so we might retest a 2nd string to confirm that a bad result. Other strings were bad enough where we moved on after 4 shots. At the end of testing the first 8 lots we had found 3 lots with potential but I asked to try some other lots while looking for the "magic bullet". We tested 8 more lots with similar results. At that point I asked to test some Midas Plus and after 4 lots with similar results I decided that there wasn't any reason to pay 50% more for Midas that shot the same as Center X. At that point we removed my barreled action and switched to my wife's barreled action. This time we only tested the 1st 8 lots that we used on my rifle with similar results.
After each batch of lots Dan would print out data sheets from those lots and I reviewed then as he was continuing the tests. By the time we completed the testing I had already narrowed everything down to 3 lots for our rifles. I wanted to find a single lot to use in both rifles and they both seemed to like the same lots. I reviewed the information with Dan and decided of a preferred lot number. He check the inventory at their Missouri warehouse and I placed an order for the quantity I wanted. I also selected the retailer that I wanted to use to pay for the ammo. I went with Good Shooting as I had previously purchased from them and they had good pricing.
What I learned from the process:
I had initially thought that I could find a "magic bullet" of sorts. As the process went on my thought process changed though. Overall about 25% of the lots shot better in relation to the others. 50% shot well just a little below the first group and 25% shot larger groups or vertical strings. While shooting several strings of the same lots I found those lots to be fairly consistent string to string. I learned about the capability of our rifles and of what accuracy that they were capable. I learned quite a bit about what consistency I could expect from them. Our rifles shoot this lot of Center X at .8moa at 50 yards and 1moa at 100 yards.
Was it worth the time and expense:
I drove from Vegas to Phoenix so I used the better part of 2 days. Between hotel and gas it cost $350. The testing is normally $50 per rifle, he had said that he would do both for $50. In the end he waived the testing fee because of the quantity of ammo I purchased. I personally think that is was time and money well spent based on the education, information and confidence I now have in my rifles.
Note: Some people just send their rifles in to Dan and he does the testing. After that he sends them the data sheets and reviews the information with them. This would be a more cost effective way to gather the information and I may do that next time in 4 or 5 years when I run out of ammo. Maybe I'll take a trip to Texas and test with Eley...
I made my appointment last month over the phone. I drove from Vegas to Phoenix the day before and spent the night in the area because my appointment was at 8am. The next morning I arrived at the Nammo facility around 7:40 and checked in at the guard gate and was told to wait for my escort which was Daniel the guy who does the testing. This facility is a ammunition manufacturing and testing facility. They make military caliber ammunition from smaller caliber up to artillery ammo including the LAWS rocket. It is a sprawling facility.
Dan met me at 8:10 and we drove the short distance to the testing site . This is a CONEX that has been converted into a separate office and addition room where the testing is done. Coming out of the end of the CONEX is a 5ft diameter concrete pipe that the bullet travels down. This one is 100 yards long and parallel to it was was another similar building and pipe that Nammouses for testing heavier caliber ammowhere a medium size round is 50 caliber.
We removed my barreled action from my chassis and mounted it in the testing block that Mike at Vudoo had manufactured for them to use with the V22 action. It is a very nice piece. That block with my barreled action if then mounter in a heavy duty vice that is bolted down to their base. My scopes were already zeroes to 50 yards so he just used my scope to bore site everything in the pipe. They run optical sensors at 50 and 100 yards to track the bullet flight and placement. It would be like shooting groups on paper but it displays those groups on 2 computer monitors, one for each distance and with the bullet not shooting through material at 50 yards they can get undisturbed shot information at 100 yards simultaneously.
When asked what ammunition that I was interested in testing I had decided Lapua Center X and maybe some Midas Plus as well. He selected 8 lots of Center X and we began. First 10 rounds to warm up and foul my previously cleaned barrel. After that we began by loading and shooting 10 round strings of each lot. Each shot was plotted and displayed by the computer on individual monitors shot by shot for 50 and 100 yards. There equipment being I believe German origin displayed all information in mm so I used an app on my phone to do conversions that I understood. The groups and information is also displayed as a maximum diameter from the outside of each bullet rather than center to center so I took that into account as well. Basically I was looking for 20mm at 50 yards and 30mm at 100 yards which was within 1/16" or less of 1moa at each distance.
As we proceeded testing lot after lot we found some that shot well and others not so much. When we found a lot with potential we would shoot a 2nd or possibly 3rd 10 round string. Some of them might shoot great only to have a single shot that killed the group so we might retest a 2nd string to confirm that a bad result. Other strings were bad enough where we moved on after 4 shots. At the end of testing the first 8 lots we had found 3 lots with potential but I asked to try some other lots while looking for the "magic bullet". We tested 8 more lots with similar results. At that point I asked to test some Midas Plus and after 4 lots with similar results I decided that there wasn't any reason to pay 50% more for Midas that shot the same as Center X. At that point we removed my barreled action and switched to my wife's barreled action. This time we only tested the 1st 8 lots that we used on my rifle with similar results.
After each batch of lots Dan would print out data sheets from those lots and I reviewed then as he was continuing the tests. By the time we completed the testing I had already narrowed everything down to 3 lots for our rifles. I wanted to find a single lot to use in both rifles and they both seemed to like the same lots. I reviewed the information with Dan and decided of a preferred lot number. He check the inventory at their Missouri warehouse and I placed an order for the quantity I wanted. I also selected the retailer that I wanted to use to pay for the ammo. I went with Good Shooting as I had previously purchased from them and they had good pricing.
What I learned from the process:
I had initially thought that I could find a "magic bullet" of sorts. As the process went on my thought process changed though. Overall about 25% of the lots shot better in relation to the others. 50% shot well just a little below the first group and 25% shot larger groups or vertical strings. While shooting several strings of the same lots I found those lots to be fairly consistent string to string. I learned about the capability of our rifles and of what accuracy that they were capable. I learned quite a bit about what consistency I could expect from them. Our rifles shoot this lot of Center X at .8moa at 50 yards and 1moa at 100 yards.
Was it worth the time and expense:
I drove from Vegas to Phoenix so I used the better part of 2 days. Between hotel and gas it cost $350. The testing is normally $50 per rifle, he had said that he would do both for $50. In the end he waived the testing fee because of the quantity of ammo I purchased. I personally think that is was time and money well spent based on the education, information and confidence I now have in my rifles.
Note: Some people just send their rifles in to Dan and he does the testing. After that he sends them the data sheets and reviews the information with them. This would be a more cost effective way to gather the information and I may do that next time in 4 or 5 years when I run out of ammo. Maybe I'll take a trip to Texas and test with Eley...
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