Vudoo V-22S Single Shot BR/F-Class Action

[gkgeiger]

I can’t believe that people wouldn’t put grease on the lugs of any action.

 

[Gibby73]

I can’t believe that people wouldn’t put grease on the lugs of any action. why wouldn’t two pieces of dry metal running back and forth against each other benefit from a little lubricant

 

[gkgeiger]

You embellished my post. I don’t think it was necessary, but oh well.

 

[Papa Mike]

My Vudoo finally made it home. V22S McMillan edge, Shilen Barrel, Bix-N-Andy competition trigger. Hope she shots as good as she looks View attachment 7827856

I am new to this forum, and new ,just getting started in .22 benchrest . I’m having a single shot bench gun put together by Vudoo . Could you guys tell me what is the preferred crown you guys put on your barrels?? Flat crown or 11° ???

 

[GTI]

Exactly... and even mine, 500 rounds later, is like that... smooth now, but putting any angular pressure on it still tends to bind i

I've had mine for over a year now. It acted the same way when I got it. I've used Miletec gun grease on the lugs since new and it's as smooth as silk now.

 

[Gibby73]

I am new to this forum, and new ,just getting started in .22 benchrest . I’m having a single shot bench gun put together by Vudoo . Could you guys tell me what is the preferred crown you guys put on your barrels?? Flat crown or 11° ???

All my bench rest guns have a 11 degree crown.

 

[DRACO]

Now to see if the trip to the Testing Center was correct.
DRACO

 

[JimTN]

Now to see if the trip to the Testing Center was correct.
DRACO

Were you able to buy all one lot #, or multiple lots ??

 

[DRACO]

Were you able to buy all one lot #, or multiple lots ??

All the same lot. It was shot off the VUDOO fixture and the second round was a flier that was removed from the group

 

[fredfish]

A very light film of grease on the 3 locking lug’s will make a huge difference and help it wear into itself

It came with a light coat of oil, I figured thats all that needed.

 

[Taqwin]

All the same lot. It was shot off the VUDOO fixture and the second round was a flier that was removed from the group

Thank you for sharing, these are fantastic groups! . what barrel do you have on your vudoo?
just curious if you shot that again and what was the size of the 2nd group from the same lot, as they normally would shoot a good lot twice at least.

 

[DRACO]

Thank you for sharing, these are fantastic groups! . what barrel do you have on your vudoo?
just curious if you shot that again and what was the size of the 2nd group from the same lot, as they normally would shoot a good lot twice at least.

I still have to get the tuner set and torque tuned but for a windy day I’m happy

 

[DRACO]

I forgot to add the Barrel. Shilen Ratchet

 

[RAVAGE88]

I guess this guy turboshooter thinks everything is funny. I guess I'm either ignorant, dumb or both cuz I don't see anything that's funny in what you said. What am I missing here...I must be too old for this kind of humor.

Yep, he likes to laugh at a lot, but this should give the rest of us a lot to laugh about:

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Date	Club	Place	Tgt 1	Tgt 2	Tgt 3	Tgt 4	Tgt 5	Tgt 6	Tgt 7	Tgt 8	Total	Agg.	Pts.	Agg. + Pts.
02/26/22 ​	Rocky River Barn INDOOR	13	2250-10X	1395-4X	2150-11X	2400-12X	2350-17X				10545-54X	2109.00-54X	25	2134.00-54X

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Date	Club	Place	Tgt 1	Tgt 2	Tgt 3	Tgt 4	Tgt 5	Tgt 6	Tgt 7	Tgt 8	Total	Agg.	Pts.	Agg. + Pts.
03/19/22 ​	Buccaneer Gun Club	1	1800-5X	2025-8X	1850-10X	1925-9X	2200-14X				9800-46X	1960.00-46X	25	1985.00-46X

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[Panther]

For those of you that are interested, competitor data like the above is available at www.AmericanRimfire.com

 

[Papa Mike]

I forgot to add the Barrel. Shilen Ratchet

Did the shilen barrel add more time to the 5 month build time or completion ?

 

[Papa Mike]

My Vudoo finally made it home. V22S McMillan edge, Shilen Barrel, Bix-N-Andy competition trigger. Hope she shots as good as she looks View attachment 7827856

Did the shilen barrel extend your build time past the 5 month projected build time ?

 

[GTI]

Did the shilen barrel extend your build time past the 5 month projected build time ?

Good looking rifle!

 

[Gibby73]

Did the shilen barrel extend your build time past the 5 month projected build time ?

My delivery date was 3 weeks past the expected due date but don’t know if it was the shilen barrel or the McMillan edge stock that delayed it. Still worth the extra wait time

 

[JimTN]

Did the shilen barrel add more time to the 5 month build time or completion ?

It added about 3 months delay to my build, but I ordered late 2020, with a projected delivery date of 4/1/21, delivered to LGS early July, '21. Vudoo had issues with receiving Flavio triggers and Shilen barrels due to covid 19 issues. I was offered other brands of barrels to complete my build, but I waited on the Shilen. No regrets.

 

[ICEMAN_RIMFIRE]

It added about 3 months delay to my build, but I ordered late 2020, with a projected delivery date of 4/1/21, delivered to LGS early July, '21. Vudoo had issues with receiving Flavio triggers and Shilen barrels due to covid 19 issues. I was offered other brands of barrels to complete my build, but I waited on the Shilen. No regrets.

JimTN, is this the 24" shilen ratched R0? does it work fine for you, and did you got other barrels in your shooter's life?

 

[JimTN]

JimTN, is this the 24" shilen ratched R0? does it work fine for you, and did you got other barrels in your shooter's life?

Yes, I ordered/received the Shilen 24" R0 rachet barrel, very pleased with overall performance and accuracy of the rifle. A friend/match competitior also has same rifle except for bolt/action configuration. We are competitive with each other, and in our local matches depending on who is reading the wind better that particular day.

 

[GTI]

Yes, I ordered/received the Shilen 24" R0 rachet barrel, very pleased with overall performance and accuracy of the rifle. A friend/match competitior also has same rifle except for bolt/action configuration. We are competitive with each other, and in our local matches depending on who is reading the wind better that particular day.

Mine originally came with an ACE 22" barrel. I didn't want to wait for the Schilen. VGW I just recently replaced my ACE with a Benchmark 25" 16 1/2 twist Benchmark barrel (originally wanted 26" but was told it slugged the best at 25"). The first two cards I shot for score were 250-20X and 250-23X (factory side of the card. Eyes are bad but I figure an "X" is an "X"). These were shot after tuning and about 150 to 200 rounds through it. I couldn't be happier with the change.

 

[JimTN]

Mine originally came with an ACE 22" barrel. I didn't want to wait for the Schilen. VGW I just recently replaced my ACE with a Benchmark 25" 16 1/2 twist Benchmark barrel (originally wanted 26" but was told it slugged the best at 25"). The first two cards I shot for score were 250-20X and 250-23X (factory side of the card. Eyes are bad but I figure an "X" is an "X"). These were shot after tuning and about 150 to 200 rounds through it. I couldn't be happier with the change.

What ammo does your rifle prefer???

 

[GTI]

What ammo does your rifle prefer???

I've only used SK Std+ and Ctr-X with a speed between 1,062 and 1,069. That's all the rifle has seen.

 

[fredfish]

Rifle has been to range twice with about with about 300 rds. nothing to right home about.Windy Sun. so I used vise. Back and forth with a little lube 250-300 times just kinda working bolt. Didn't seem to work much ,still very bindy. Bolt handle and loading port different side would that matter?
Fred

 

[Riberac]

Rifle has been to range twice with about with about 300 rds. nothing to right home about.Windy Sun. so I used vise. Back and forth with a little lube 250-300 times just kinda working bolt. Didn't seem to work much ,still very bindy. Bolt handle and loading port different side would that matter?
Fred

You mean you jammed the rifle in a vice and operated the moving bolt 300 times?

 

[GTI]

Rifle has been to range twice with about with about 300 rds. nothing to right home about.Windy Sun. so I used vise. Back and forth with a little lube 250-300 times just kinda working bolt. Didn't seem to work much ,still very bindy. Bolt handle and loading port different side would that matter?
Fred

My rifle is LBRP (left bolt-right port). I don't think that makes any difference whatsoever...

 

[fredfish]

You mean you jammed the rifle in a vice and operated the moving bolt 300 times?

Sorry--plastic gun vise. About 300 to see if reduces binding, but No.

 

[flatland1]

fredfish, When you mentioned that 'it came with a light coat of oil', it reminded me of a something that Mike Bush mentioned a year or more ago about how the actions are shipped with some kind of preservative oil or coating that prevents any corrosion, but isn't intended to lubricate anything. He suggested that the owner should remove that oil with solvent, and replace it with your choice of bolt lube. Anyway, I think that was Mike's statement - might've been Paul at VGW, and no, I don't recall where I read it. But since there's more information concerning the Vudoo 22RF actions here on the Hide than anywhere else I'm aware of, it was probably right here that I read it. I've used Tru-Kote Bolt Magic & Benchrite Super Bolt Lube on several BAT 3L & 3LL stainless actions for years - the bolts & actions are both SS, and they tend to bind a little, and both these products ease that binding considerably (still wish I'd have listened to German Salazar's advice and ordered these actions with chrome moly steel instead of SS). IIRC, I bought both products back before Sinclair was bought out by Brownells. These oils are very low viscosity, and it only takes a small dab of it applied to a finger and then rubbed onto the bolt body.

 

[Papa Mike]

Sorry--plastic gun vise. About 300 to see if reduces binding, but No.

Have you tried removing your bolt and cleaning inside the action ? Bore tech makes a tool for this but only on centerfire . A toothbrush wrapped with patches is the best I can find for cleaning rimfire actions.

 

[mattt]

I am number 1 on the unlimited list on ir 50/50 shooting my vudoo. . great gun finished 16 on list last year but hope make top 10 this year.



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[RAVAGE88]

I am number 1 on the unlimited list on ir 50/50 shooting my vudoo. . great gun finished 16 on list last year but hope make top 10 this year.



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Hey Sean, post of the pics of your five shot group after you got your rifle back from Ivan….please.

MB

 

[mattt]

I can text them to someone if they will post it for me

 

[Rob01]

I can text them to someone if they will post it for me

Why can't you post them? It's not hard. Just hit attach files when responding and post them. Simple.

 

[RAVAGE88]

I can text them to someone if they will post it for me

Not sure if this is the first five shot group out of Sean's rifle after getting it back from Ivan Wells, but Sean can fill us in on the details.

MB

 

[mattt]

Day i sighted in scope/rifle after Ivans work . Outdoors at concord calif lite breeze left to right condition.Eley 10x mike ezell tuner, first time showing groups as match results mater

 

[fredfish]

fredfish, When you mentioned that 'it came with a light coat of oil', it reminded me of a something that Mike Bush mentioned a year or more ago about how the actions are shipped with some kind of preservative oil or coating that prevents any corrosion, but isn't intended to lubricate anything. He suggested that the owner should remove that oil with solvent, and replace it with your choice of bolt lube. Anyway, I think that was Mike's statement - might've been Paul at VGW, and no, I don't recall where I read it. But since there's more information concerning the Vudoo 22RF actions here on the Hide than anywhere else I'm aware of, it was probably right here that I read it. I've used Tru-Kote Bolt Magic & Benchrite Super Bolt Lube on several BAT 3L & 3LL stainless actions for years - the bolts & actions are both SS, and they tend to bind a little, and both these products ease that binding considerably (still wish I'd have listened to German Salazar's advice and ordered these actions with chrome moly steel instead of SS). IIRC, I bought both products back before Sinclair was bought out by Brownells. These oils are very low viscosity, and it only takes a small dab of it applied to a finger and then rubbed onto the bolt body.

If it should be removed it should be in owners manual, that I didn't get. Just trigger + spring weights no -Thanks for buying Vudoo etc. I know theres a lot of stuff online and thanks for that. I watched Mike Bush 3 times taking bolt apart, cause I really messed up ( now have bolt tool ). I've been told never to put bolt away cocked so I turned front piece like I do with CZ and Annie and it popped into recess now I can uncock with no problems. Shot today at 100yd with Center X and Midas didn't do bad. Looking around I saw empty target at 200yd. I put 20 MOA, little high once I got it straight I didn't do bad.I cleaned action with old T and toothbrush, a little oil after. Lite grease on bolt. I'm really trying, still binds. A lot of empties are getting caught in loading chamber I think because of binding pulling back?Fred--sorry

 

[JimTN]

If it should be removed it should be in owners manual, that I didn't get. Just trigger + spring weights no -Thanks for buying Vudoo etc. I know theres a lot of stuff online and thanks for that. I watched Mike Bush 3 times taking bolt apart, cause I really messed up ( now have bolt tool ). I've been told never to put bolt away cocked so I turned front piece like I do with CZ and Annie and it popped into recess now I can uncock with no problems. Shot today at 100yd with Center X and Midas didn't do bad. Looking around I saw empty target at 200yd. I put 20 MOA, little high once I got it straight I didn't do bad.I cleaned action with old T and toothbrush, a little oil after. Lite grease on bolt. I'm really trying, still binds. A lot of empties are getting caught in loading chamber I think because of binding pulling back?View attachment 7842183Fred--sorryView attachment 7842183View attachment 7842183

Just a suggestion but try tunning the bolt with a little bit more "authority" both ways, when loading a round and ejecting. If I "baby" the bolt when moving it, mine will leave the spent case laying on the ramp. You don't need to slam the bolt, just experiment with the speed of opening and closing the bolt.

 

[littlesister]

If it should be removed it should be in owners manual, that I didn't get. Just trigger + spring weights no -Thanks for buying Vudoo etc. I know theres a lot of stuff online and thanks for that. I watched Mike Bush 3 times taking bolt apart, cause I really messed up ( now have bolt tool ). I've been told never to put bolt away cocked so I turned front piece like I do with CZ and Annie and it popped into recess now I can uncock with no problems. Shot today at 100yd with Center X and Midas didn't do bad. Looking around I saw empty target at 200yd. I put 20 MOA, little high once I got it straight I didn't do bad.I cleaned action with old T and toothbrush, a little oil after. Lite grease on bolt. I'm really trying, still binds. A lot of empties are getting caught in loading chamber I think because of binding pulling back?View attachment 7842183Fred--sorryView attachment 7842183View attachment 7842183

Easy to decock. Hold the trigger back and slowly close the bolt.

 

[Rob01]

Even easier to decock by closing bolt and just pulling trigger. You can dry fire a Vudoo without a problem.

Also agree with above. Work the bolt like a centerfire. You won't break anything.

 

[Gibby73]

Maybe RAVAGE88 could touch on the subject of the rough bolt operation and the weak and poor ejection issues that the owners of V22S is experiencing

 

[fredfish]

Just a suggestion but try tunning the bolt with a little bit more "authority" both ways, when loading a round and ejecting. If I "baby" the bolt when moving it, mine will leave the spent case laying on the ramp. You don't need to slam the bolt, just experiment with the speed of opening and closing the bolt.

I've tried that but that binding or sticking? It might go good for maybe 10 shots then 2 get left keeps going on. I'm getting used to it--but.

 

[fredfish]

Even easier to decock by closing bolt and just pulling trigger. You can dry fire a Vudoo without a problem.

Also agree with above. Work the bolt like a centerfire. You won't break anything.

That means the bolt has to stay in rifle. The folding case that it came with I don't think will close. My CZ had a wider case and I snapped the bolt handle at the knob. I bought the stand up with one handle at top it won't fit with bolt installed ( maybe with a little fignalling ). easier to take bolt out like other rifles.

 

[Rob01]

That means the bolt has to stay in rifle. The folding case that it came with I don't think will close. My CZ had a wider case and I snapped the bolt handle at the knob. I bought the stand up with one handle at top it won't fit with bolt installed ( maybe with a little fignalling ). easier to take bolt out like other rifles.

So then you just take the bolt out. You don't have to do anything to it if you take it out and put it in a case. You are way overthinking this. It won't hurt anything.

 

[Papa Mike]

I've tried that but that binding or sticking? It might go good for maybe 10 shots then 2 get left keeps going on. I'm getting used to it--but.

I have the same issues that you have been describing

 

[Stephen T]

I have the same issues that you have been describing

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Not sure if this is the first five shot group out of Sean's rifle after getting it back from Ivan Wells, but Sean can fill us in on the details.

MB

Ravage 88
More questions. How much torque, barreled action to stock, to use on the center Phillips head screw? Have you and Ivan figured out how to overcome the FTF and case head penetration problems? Have you ever had any of these problems?

 

[Papa Mike]

Ravage 88
More questions. How much torque, barreled action to stock, to use on the center Phillips head screw? Have you and Ivan figured out how to overcome the FTF and case head penetration problems? Have you ever had any of these problems?

60 inch torque on vudoo action screws . There is a front and rear action screw ( no center action screw ) I have never seen a Phillips head screw on any gun . Hope this helps .

 

[Stephen T]

60 inch torque on vudoo action screws . There is a front and rear action screw ( no center action screw ) I have never seen a Phillips head screw on any gun . Hope this helps .

Mike
My v22s has one in the front trigger guard.

 

[UncleDunk]

Mike
My v22s has one in the front trigger guard.

Hi Stephen T,
I'm sensing that there might be something contrary to ordinary with your Phillips head action screw/bolt and one might be hesitant to torque that screw/bolt to 60-inch pounds. You might consider sending a pic of it and the members here might be able to suggest further information. Good luck.
UncleDunk