The TT315M has 6mrad turrets that are limited to 2 revs for a total of 12mrad of working elevation. I want to make sure we don’t do that - the ZCxxx seem to be limited to 3 revs but that’s more than the total elevation of the scope anyway so it doesn’t matter on those scopes.
No worries, my ability to communicate clearly is one of the first things I lose when I’m asleep on my feet!
I agree, 5mil per rev is too little. Never had a problem adjusting even my 17 mil per rev in the dark by feel, thanks to mtc. 10 mil would be probably ideal in my opinion.
This right here. Basically an Athlon Helos BTR 2-12 except a nicer version of it.
Except a 20 MOA base has nothing to do with a turret that's limited to 3 turns. You put a 40 moa base and you still can only adjust 15 mil from your zero. That makes sense if they were talking internal scope travel.
No objections to 5mrad, just rev limits.
On a regular basis, even my teenage daughters have taken trophy game over 500yds. It really depends on your AO, for me 500yds is a cake walk. Someone hunting whitetails in the midwest is going to have a different experience.
Man that is awesome especially your daughters good on you for raising them right!
I won’t. I’m not risking a gut shot because the wind is fucky.
Blasphemic you hater of good reticles.Noooooooo, please no
(PS - I hate the H2CMR as well). But I'm very particular about reticles and I don't expect everyone to think like me. As my old pops used to tell me, "you're entitled to your own wrong opinion" 
) Comps appear to hit the 28oz mark (NX8 & TT 28oz, Leupy 26oz)+1 MSR-2 design principles,
Good news. The ZCO 420 only weights 4.8oz more than the 4-16 ATACR so ya don’t get to mess up the 2-16 they are developing!
I am currently shopping for optics that are sub-20oz, and consider the ATACR on the heavy side already. I am not under the illusion of getting a 1lbs FFP 4-20 or 2-16, but ZCO quality in the 24oz range would be mighty sexy and likely worth the added weight.
I wasn’t talking about the ZCO offering. I meant Vortex should have came with that design off their Razor lht HD
The March 1.5-15 and 2.5-25 are both SFP.
Haven't owned one but was considering buying one. Sfp and reticle is calibrated for 10x. Once I thought this over i actually liked the idea. 10x for drops with a good eyebox and 15X you can dial. So then I wondered how you knew you were on 10x figuring a detent or stop of some kind. But no it's just a arrow mark that you have to look over the top to see. Also flashdot illumination is "I'd say it's daylight bright" which means it's not.
The 3-24 checks a lot of boxes for sure. Would prefer better DOF and parallax, their new turrets are an improvement over my last 3-24 so having a better reticle would make the 3-24 more appealing.
That’s a great post ^^^The MPVO territory is ripe for some fresh blood, too many LPVO’s to compete with unless you OEM like ATI did.
You want specifics, okay, let’s get specific
A 2-16x42 FFP with 30mm tube that weighs under 23oz. Parts made in your same facility in Austria with glass that performs at the level of the current ZCO line with wide angle eyepiece providing enormous FOV but not too wide so you limit edge distortion . A short body design but not too short so you don’t compromise eyebox, DOF and parallax forgiveness (something the NX8 struggles with mightily). Turrets that have click feel more in line with Tangent Theta and only 10 mil per rev. Same illumination module that you have in current ZCO with auto shutoff and movement turn on, etc. New reticle that works at the bottom end of magnification as well as the top end without being too thick at top or too thin at bottom with something that helps draw the eye to center when at low mags, tree is essential but not with thick horizontal tree lines, use just dots in tree keeping the view clean throughout mag range. Include a gold certificate in 10 boxes like Willy Wonka and the Chocolate Factory, lucky winners get a personal tour of ZCO facilities in Idaho and get to participate in assembly and get a selfie with Nick and Jeff, a competition ensues with the lucky ten using a custom SPR/DMR style AR with the 2-16x42 ZCO mounted, shooter to get the most first shot hits on various distance targets out to 800 yards wins the rifle
Was that specific enough?
3-15x36-44. Yes, and execute it perfectly. A number starting with a 4 would probably help marketing.Hey gang ... don't forget that Jeff said in one of the podcast interviews (possibly the one with Frank) that he likes a 5x zoom ratio - and that once you get to 8x, then it creates all sorts of problems ...
Just putting it out there so y'all don't start dreaming about whatcha not gonna get ...
. Hats off to Nick & team (
