My initial thought on the Criterion blanks is that it seems a bit expensive for a button blank. At that point you're not far off of a cut blank from the reputable companies, especially when that barrel will last until the end of time or until you get sick of the contour, length or twist rate.
Cut rifling is better ≠ for rimfire.
 
My initial thought on the Criterion blanks is that it seems a bit expensive for a button blank. At that point you're not far off of a cut blank from the reputable companies, especially when that barrel will last until the end of time or until you get sick of the contour, length or twist rate.
$315 is fairly cheap. Mullerworks are top of the line and button rifled….. $475.
 
Look at the top 50 rimfire benchrest equipment list year in and year out.. all button barrels.. 90% Mullerworks and Shilen with a couple Benchmarks sprinkled in...

It is well known that button barrels dominate the rimfire precision world
Fair enough. I'm still really new to the witchcraft that is the rimfire world. Wonder if the button rifling is what makes the difference or if those companies are putting more focus on rimfire barrels.
 
Fair enough. I'm still really new to the witchcraft that is the rimfire world. Wonder if the button rifling is what makes the difference or if those companies are putting more focus on rimfire barrels.

From what I understand, its all in the hand taper lapping... Paul Tolvstad hand laps all Mullerworks rimfire barrels and is a master at it. I dont know who hand laps the Shilens but they are excellent hand taper lapped rimfire barrels as well..

The reason I grabbed one of these Criterions is because they said they are hand taper lapping them... So Im giving one a try to see how they compare...
 
Look at the top 50 rimfire benchrest equipment list year in and year out.. all button barrels.. 90% Mullerworks and Shilen with a couple Benchmarks sprinkled in...

It is well known that button barrels dominate the rimfire precision world
Do you guys have any experience with Lilja rimfire barrels? From what I understand, they are button-rifled. I am putting one of their 25" 1.2" straight taper on my RimX action.
 
I don’t know of anyone that uses a Lilja blank. That said, two friends of mine that had a Lilja CZ457 prefit eventually sold theirs for other custom offerings which shot much better. Could be a number of factors but you just don’t see them much at least on the RimX side of the house.
 
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I don’t know of anyone that uses a Lilja blank. That said, two friends of mine that had a Lilja CZ457 prefit eventually sold theirs for other custom offerings which shot much better. Could be a number of factors but you just don’t see them much at least on the RimX side of the house.
Yeah, I bought a Lilja prefit for a good deal, so I'm going to give it a go and see how it does!
 
My lilja on my cz shot lights out with sk rm
 

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Just an FYI...

I just got my replacement bolt parts from Zermatt today. I have a 35XX serial # that was galling right away on the bolt. Zermatt said parts were arriving this week. I haven't installed it yet, but I should know soon if this fixes the issue.

Mine shows up tomorrow. Also serial 35XX.
Going to run it Friday and Sunday and get at least 1000 thru it.
 
Just an FYI...

I just got my replacement bolt parts from Zermatt today. I have a 35XX serial # that was galling right away on the bolt. Zermatt said parts were arriving this week. I haven't installed it yet, but I should know soon if this fixes the issue.
That’s interesting both in the 35xx range and it happened. Did it start right away. I’m in the same range and prob have 500 rounds on it. It just looks like normal wear in. It’s good to know Zermatt is taking care of it.
 
That’s interesting both in the 35xx range and it happened. Did it start right away. I’m in the same range and prob have 500 rounds on it. It just looks like normal wear in. It’s good to know Zermatt is taking care of it.

Started instantly.
At 200 rounds it was very noticeable.
At 3000 it let go completely, and dropped the firing pin 50% of the time.

I documented round count vs wear, it’s posted thought out this thread.

I intend to do the same with this bolt body.

Zermatt has been good. Although waiting was a bummer, I’m hopeful this is the end all solution.
Receiver cleaned to the bone, and ready for a fresh insertion.
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Started instantly.
At 200 rounds it was very noticeable.
At 3000 it let go completely, and dropped the firing pin 50% of the time.

I documented round count vs wear, it’s posted thought out this thread.

I intend to do the same with this bolt body.

Zermatt has been good. Although waiting was a bummer, I’m hopeful this is the end all solution.
Receiver cleaned to the bone, and ready for a fresh insertion.
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Where was the wear coming from did they say?
 
Bolt body arrived today.
Photos for reference.

NOTE: date in photo is wrong! (Got excited!)

OG vs. New:
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100 cycles of 50 lives and 50 dries. (Approx.)
So far I can’t get it to stick. Which is a good sign. Don’t feel like the same gun. Shit is glass like and slick AF.
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Will have ~500 rounds thru it noon tomorrow.
 
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I don’t know of anyone that uses a Lilja blank. That said, two friends of mine that had a Lilja CZ457 prefit eventually sold theirs for other custom offerings which shot much better. Could be a number of factors but you just don’t see them much at least on the RimX side of the house.


They use or used Lilja blanks, dont know if they still do but the won the Olympics and some other matches.


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Bolt body arrived today.
Photos for reference.

NOTE: date in photo is wrong! (Got excited!)

OG vs. New:
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100 cycles of 50 lives and 50 dries. (Approx.)
So far I can’t get it to stick. Which is a good sign. Don’t feel like the same gun. Shit is glass like and slick AF.
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Will have ~500 rounds thru it noon tomorrow.
Keep us updated