The war in Ukraine and Donbas

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Look at these fucking dorks in charge of us policy. These faggot fucks were getting the shit kicked out of them in school and couldn't start or win a fight to save their lives. They are getting hundreds of thousands of innocent people killed and destroying entire region due to their egos. Part of me wishes Putin would nuke ukraine so there is nothing left for the MIC and these western cucks to profit off.
 
My guess is that the kenyan and mr fink are opposed to peace in Ukraine. Defence contractors need conflict to drive sales. Klaus and gates need big wars to kill off more “useless eaters”. The fix is in.

If by "Kenyan" you mean Obama, he was never big on involvement in Ukraine.

He was smart enough to recognize that Ukraine would always be a core interest of Russia, and thus shouldn't be a core interest of the US.

Our current Ukraine project is a pet project of the neocons, namely husband and wife duo Kagan and Nuland. Ukraine has been their hobby horse for a while, and it's turning out to be an absolute disaster.
 
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If by "Kenyan" you mean Obama, he was never big on involvement in Ukraine.

He was smart enough to recognize that Ukraine would always be a core interest of Russia, and thus shouldn't be a core interest of the US.

Our current Ukraine project is a pet project of the neocons, namely husband and wife duo Kagan and Nuland. Ukraine has been their hobby horse for a while, and it's turning out to be an absolute disaster.
I’m curious who the actual president is day to day. Is there a committee or something? When will it all crash and burn? Is it held together by the Epstein videos? Who controls their release?
I feel that Obama was never a prime mover, just a low level pimp used by the Soros-ish left.
 
I’m curious who the actual president is day to day. Is there a committee or something? When will it all crash and burn? Is it held together by the Epstein videos? Who controls their release?
I feel that Obama was never a prime mover, just a low level pimp used by the Soros-ish left.

I wish I knew.

All I know is that the president doesn't seemingly run much of anything, and the country is operated behind closed doors by unelected and unaccountable officials.

A large part of it is the intelligence apparatus, IMO. They seem to have gone rogue after WW2.
 

NATO: 500,000 Troops on High Readiness for War With Russia​

Officials say the alliance now has hundreds of thousands of soldiers ready to deploy to fight Russia within a month


"On Thursday, a NATO official told AFP that member states have 300,000 soldiers ready to deploy for a conflict with Russia in the space of 30 days. “The offers on the table from allies comfortably exceed the 300,000 that we set,” the official said. “Those are forces which allies have said to us, ‘They are available to you as of now at that level of readiness.’”

The Netherlands and Denmark plan to supply Kiev with F-16s in the coming months, and say the advanced aircraft could be used to bomb Russia. Stoltenberg added that he welcomes the policy shift, and said it should not be considered an escalation by Russia. However, the Kremlin has issued stern warnings to the West about any F-16 transfer, with Russian officials explaining the US-made warplane could carry nuclear weapons and present a strategic threat to Moscow. Ukraine plans to store the F-16s on the territory of other NATO states, and Russia has threatened to strike those facilities."
 
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Concern and reflection in NATO: The numbers "do not come out" - 700,000 Russian soldiers in "waiting" for the start of the main attack​



"If Russia managed to mobilize 100,000 troops without - and this is the main issue - conscription, then the problem is huge for Ukraine. The numbers do not come out based on her losses. Its destruction is 100% certain unless NATO gets very actively involved.

The main Russian offensive has not yet begun and this has been felt in Kiev. The target must be big and not just Donbas so that Moscow has not used them yet.

Based on the estimate of 550,000 Russian troops, Kiev had asked NATO member countries to prepare a force of 150,000 Ukrainian troops "as soon as possible". Kiev planned to mobilize at least 150,000 Ukrainians in the first stage. That's exactly the number NATO countries planned to train to repel Russia's summer offensive. The number did not come out by chance, this is exactly the data that Kiev had sent to NATO demanding preparations "as soon as possible". To come up with this figure, Zelensky passed a new conscription law and lowered the age from 27 to 25 years.

Lowering the age limit could lead 100,000 Ukrainians to the Army. In a second phase, Kiev needs an additional 150,000 Ukrainian soldiers. "It is necessary to send at least 300,000 troops to the front immediately to stop the advance of the Russian armed forces," Ukrainian military authorities told Zelensky. The General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine has been forming 10 new brigades since autumn. Five of them are almost ready to be sent to the front, another five are experiencing problems with equipment, weapons and personnel."
 

NATO: 500,000 Troops on High Readiness for War With Russia​

Officials say the alliance now has hundreds of thousands of soldiers ready to deploy to fight Russia within a month


"On Thursday, a NATO official told AFP that member states have 300,000 soldiers ready to deploy for a conflict with Russia in the space of 30 days. “The offers on the table from allies comfortably exceed the 300,000 that we set,” the official said. “Those are forces which allies have said to us, ‘They are available to you as of now at that level of readiness.’”

The Netherlands and Denmark plan to supply Kiev with F-16s in the coming months, and say the advanced aircraft could be used to bomb Russia. Stoltenberg added that he welcomes the policy shift, and said it should not be considered an escalation by Russia. However, the Kremlin has issued stern warnings to the West about any F-16 transfer, with Russian officials explaining the US-made warplane could carry nuclear weapons and present a strategic threat to Moscow. Ukraine plans to store the F-16s on the territory of other NATO states, and Russia has threatened to strike those facilities."
I want to see the math work behind that 500,000 number. Show me the number of Infantry, Tubes of Artillery with ammo, tanks that can move under their own power out of motor pools, attack helicopters that can actually fly, combat engineers, and so on. Show me the math because I think someone pulled that number out of their butt.
 
I want to see the math work behind that 500,000 number. Show me the number of Infantry, Tubes of Artillery with ammo, tanks that can move under their own power out of motor pools, attack helicopters that can actually fly, combat engineers, and so on. Show me the math because I think someone pulled that number out of their butt.
Well from the title to the main body of text we drop from 500k to 300k. Surely if it was 500k, the US would have to make up at least half of that.
 
The mental gymnastics around there are no Nazis in Ukraine solved



And from a German foreign minister no less :oops:

The whitewashing around nazis/ultra-nationalists has been pretty incredible. These people turn on a dime on what they proclaim to believe, and people are stupid enough to buy it.

Absolutely unreal.
 
Russians are hard people in general and I believe in the event of NATO troops attacking within Russia the Nationalistic fervour would explode like someone tipping petrol on a fire.

My fear is the US will progress this to that level.

US has been f#@king around in Ukraine for many decades, the purpose of which is most probably based around resources, oil, gas etc.

I'm no fan of Putin in general but he's the only adult in the room in this conflict. I do not envy the position he is in as he has no audience to press or gain fair hearing for Russia's claims.

I long ago lost faith in humanity, we're a struck match away from this lighting off, crickets from the majority, they'll take to the streets and burn shit down waving Palestinian flags, BLM, Woke Ideology, Anti-trump, Abortion etc but they are completely ignorant of the ramifications should this light off.
 
Real problem happens when those is charge in Russia come to the conclusion that West is beyond repair (not that they have interest in repairing it) and acknowledge that only course of action might be full nuclear strike. I'm not saying we're there and honestly i believe that West will clean itself eventually especially when US patriots get another smack in the face this summer/fall (be it by Trump getting offed or "disabled" and Hitllery getting into the office) which compounded by immigration, chimpouts, attacks on normality and economic downturn just might spark something serious.
Problem is with the timeline as after the failure of Covid all pressure is on, as bastards from the shadows know their time is rapidly running out and will do anything to cause WWIII. I fully expect some provocation (like Tonkin, PH, Lusitania) and frankly it would be interesting to see Vegas odds on "we survive and clean shit":"we don't survive but clean shit by fire globally" as those two are only possible outcomes as Russia (nor China) will not (this was clearly communicated but ignored as always) accept global serfdom which West fell into.


Good points
 
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If by "Kenyan" you mean Obama, he was never big on involvement in Ukraine.

He was smart enough to recognize that Ukraine would always be a core interest of Russia, and thus shouldn't be a core interest of the US.

Our current Ukraine project is a pet project of the neocons, namely husband and wife duo Kagan and Nuland. Ukraine has been their hobby horse for a while, and it's turning out to be an absolute disaster.
the color revolution in Kiev happened in 2014. Obama started color revolutions all over the middle east before this. he was up to his eyeballs in the NWO reset.
Remember that neocons were originally Trotskyists on the Democrat side. When their party got cold feet on war after LBJ, they fled like roaches and hijacked the GOP under the false banner of "patriotic wars". By Clinton's time they were in both parties again, making it the uniparty. But as true trotskyist parasites, they dont GAF about their host nation, all they care about is global assimilation for their end goal.
 
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And from a German foreign minister no less :oops:

The whitewashing around nazis/ultra-nationalists has been pretty incredible. These people turn on a dime on what they proclaim to believe, and people are stupid enough to buy it.

Absolutely unreal.
whatever flavor du jour of totalitarianism the elites are selling is, at the end of the day, simply totalitarianism - which is the most effective way for them to control the masses.
 
The whitewashing around nazis/ultra-nationalists has been pretty incredible. These people turn on a dime on what they proclaim to believe, and people are stupid enough to buy it.
When people tell you who they are by wearing nazi symbols, you had best believe they are telling you the truth. They have not rehabilitated the swastika, they are just a little too preoccupied right now to commit atrocities like in 2014.
 
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Real problem happens when those is charge in Russia come to the conclusion that West is beyond repair (not that they have interest in repairing it) and acknowledge that only course of action might be full nuclear strike. I'm not saying we're there and honestly i believe that West will clean itself eventually especially when US patriots get another smack in the face this summer/fall (be it by Trump getting offed or "disabled" and Hitllery getting into the office) which compounded by immigration, chimpouts, attacks on normality and economic downturn just might spark something serious.
Problem is with the timeline as after the failure of Covid all pressure is on, as bastards from the shadows know their time is rapidly running out and will do anything to cause WWIII. I fully expect some provocation (like Tonkin, PH, Lusitania) and frankly it would be interesting to see Vegas odds on "we survive and clean shit":"we don't survive but clean shit by fire globally" as those two are only possible outcomes as Russia (nor China) will not (this was clearly communicated but ignored as always) accept global serfdom which West fell into.


Good points

We are long past the point of the world being able to clean and repair itself on a peaceful scale.
The whole world is on a one way express train to the bad times, which is exactly what the Global Elites want.
 
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Sounds like Cuban Missile crisis 2.0 is gonna happen, thanks to Pedopeter giving Ukraine the weapons and permission to hit civilians in Russia.
to be fair, they (ukraine) claim they are being hit by weapons launched from the belgorod area of russia, and they are supposedly restricted to returning fire on those locations. of course i cannot say they are following those rules, but it probably nato that is providing targeting anyway.
 
to be fair, they (ukraine) claim they are being hit by weapons launched from the belgorod area of russia, and they are supposedly restricted to returning fire on those locations. of course i cannot say they are following those rules, but it probably nato that is providing targeting anyway.

To be fair - I do give a darn about what Ukriane claims. We wouldn't be involved if Branden and his corrupt cronies weren't getting millions off of this. I don't think this war would even have happened if it weren't for the person in the WH.
 
To be fair - I do give a darn about what Ukriane claims. We wouldn't be involved if Branden and his corrupt cronies weren't getting millions off of this. I don't think this war would even have happened if it weren't for the person in the WH.
foreign policy is run by war profiteers and retards.
we could have peaceful cooperation with russia, but we wouldn't be able to exploit trillions in natural resources, so they push russia into the arms of china and north korea instead. fucking retarded.