I guess everyone can only purchase Bartlein MODBB 26in MTUs from now on.
All other barrels are sub-standard!
Viva la @Frank Green
All other barrels are sub-standard!
Viva la @Frank Green
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Proof prefits in carbon and steel for the CDG are up. https://proofresearch.com/barrels/american-rifle-company-coup-de-grace/
Proof is a great barrel but that’s one of the most truthful accurate statements on snipershide.I really don’t think that’s true.
I’ve had proof barrels that shoot grade out till 1500 yards.. I’ve also had Bartlein barrels that shoot equally as well.
Not sure if BnA triggers change anything but MPA's CDG based builds come with the fixed handle and they specifically say the pivoting one doesn't handle triggers below 1 pound as well.How are folks faring with the BnA triggers? I recall ARC has said the pivoting handle isn't the way to go, but I thought folks had success? Specifically two-stage of interest to me is two-stage folks.
from what I've read, it's a shot in the dark as to whether it'll work perfectly as described or not with the two stage or if you'll have to be gentle with the bolt close.How are folks faring with the BnA triggers? I recall ARC has said the pivoting handle isn't the way to go, but I thought folks had success? Specifically two-stage of interest to me is two-stage folks.
Not going that low.Not sure if BnA triggers change anything but MPA's CDG based builds come with the fixed handle and they specifically say the pivoting one doesn't handle triggers below 1 pound as well.
Kinda defeats the purpose of getting all that extra extraction as a feature though?from what I've read, it's a shot in the dark as to whether it'll work perfectly as described or not with the two stage or if you'll have to be gentle with the bolt close.
or you could just order a separate fixed handle to be on the safe side.
I thought it was regarding trigger tech diamond trigger specifically in a light settingHow are folks faring with the BnA triggers? I recall ARC has said the pivoting handle isn't the way to go, but I thought folks had success? Specifically two-stage of interest to me is two-stage folks.
someone at arc basically explained it to me as a trigger capable of being set below 1lb was likely to be problematic regardless of what you actually had it set to, but the interwebs people seem to say the two stage get by with it sometimes.I thought it was regarding trigger tech diamond trigger specifically in a light setting
well I'd probably listen to him lolI’m referring to the video of the ARC owner going over the features of the cdg
How are folks faring with the BnA triggers? I recall ARC has said the pivoting handle isn't the way to go, but I thought folks had success? Specifically two-stage of interest to me is two-stage folks.
My Huber two stage didn’t. Easy peasy.What sort of kills me is that a lot of that information came out after the early adopters…
So a few of us had to do a lot of experimentation to actually get triggers to work well with the action… it is clear that many triggers don’t like the trigger hanger.
I’ve been able to get a trigger tech to work without any modification, but pretty much every other Remington seven trigger I’ve tried to requires modifying the trigger hanger.
There IS a revised hanger. Revisions like that are typical for ARC…What sort of kills me is that a lot of that information came out after the early adopters…
So a few of us had to do a lot of experimentation to actually get triggers to work well with the action… it is clear that many triggers don’t like the trigger hanger.
I’ve been able to get a trigger tech to work without any modification, but pretty much every other Remington seven trigger I’ve tried to requires modifying the trigger hanger.
This kind of stonk?when you're first in line, there usually are revisions.
that's still a lot of action on paper for the 900$ that I paid. Will pick mine up today and bolt her in my stonk. I can finesse her if I need to but not going to have it trued up this time.
I'm stealing this pic lulz
man that's closer than you'd think lol
Actually, the revised one doesn't work universally either. Still find myself having to dremel them...There IS a revised hanger. Revisions like that are typical for ARC…
It's not a huge issue... and the action is wonderful.when you're first in line, there usually are revisions.
that's still a lot of action on paper for the 900$ that I paid. Will pick mine up today and bolt her in my stonk. I can finesse her if I need to but not going to have it trued up this time.
I’ve been able to get a trigger tech to work without any modification, but pretty much every other Remington 700 trigger I’ve tried to requires modifying the trigger hanger.
@TheOE800 - really? It doesn't show on their website as far as I can see. This is the results of a search on "trigger hanger"There IS a revised hanger. Revisions like that are typical for ARC…
Yeah...so, I think mine had the first revision of the hanger and yeah, we still had to grind.Actually, the revised one doesn't work universally either. Still find myself having to dremel them...
Depends on what revision you have. They are, will or already have revised the revised so we might be on rev B or C. I didn't want to wait for one to clear my Timney so I dremeled it myself and covered it up with black permanent marker. ;-)Actually, the revised one doesn't work universally either. Still find myself having to dremel them...
when was this? Will my action that got completed last week have this revision?Depends on what revision you have. They are, will or already have revised the revised so we might be on rev B or C. I didn't want to wait for one to clear my Timney so I dremeled it myself and covered it up with black permanent marker. ;-) View attachment 8475598
Early June. I am unsure what rev you'll get. This revision is for Timney's, therefore even more material is removed. If you don't have a Timney I'd try to get the OG or 1st revision. Disclaimer, I don't know at which point too much material removed compromises the integrity of the hanger.when was this? Will my action that got completed last week have this revision?
^^^What he said.There are 3 versions of the trigger hangers as far as I know, and some of the latest emails hint a 4th version with extra safety lever clearance may be coming.
1. Initial version with pointed pins to retain the trigger and hanger in the action, and no safety lever clearance notches. May need work to fit certain triggers.
2. Revised version of #1, still with pointy pins to retain the trigger and hanger in the action but with added clearance notches for more brands of triggers with oversize safety levers
3. Update of both trigger hanger and cuts in the action omitting the pointy pins entirely and instead using flush trigger pins and 4x tabs machined onto on the hanger to locate the hanger into the matching cuts on the action. Like #2 this version also has the added safety lever clearance cuts standard and is the most current version.
I've heard ARC will modify first run "pointy pin" actions for the revised/latest tabbed trigger hanger if you send them in.
Ted mentioned a while ago that with every trigger manufacturer doing their own thing when it comes to external linkage and safety lever configuration some brands of triggers may need a little grinding on the hangers to fit. I've had to grind hangers on other actions before to fit certain triggers, not a big deal IMO.
Another thing to watch for, certain triggers with oversize safety lever knobs like Bix and Andy can hit the action and prevent the safety from fully disengaging which can cause a no fire, no reset, or sear drag/light strike. I've had to grind the front of the oversize safety knob on all my Bix triggers down to make sure the safety can go to the fully forward "fire" position. On a trigger that uses a knob the same width as the safety lever (like a stock Remington trigger) this isn't an issue.
The root issue is there is no hard configuration or dimensional standard / interface control document that all these manufacturers of actions and triggers adhere to, so certain part combinations need some extra massaging. "R700 compatible" is honestly a pretty loose design criteria to follow resulting in most part combinations usually, but but always, working together.
It doesn't take very much material removal to accommodate Timney or BnA (per my friend @GBMaryland ). I think concern about structural integrity is a non-issue.Early June. I am unsure what rev you'll get. This revision is for Timney's, therefore even more material is removed. If you don't have a Timney I'd try to get the OG or 1st revision. Disclaimer, I don't know at which point too much material removed compromises the integrity of the hanger.
Yeah, I have version 3 per the numbering of @Kiba 's post.^^^What he said.
Actions have been shipping with version number three for at least the last year plus. At least mine has that version. And mine, as previously mentioned, was ordered first week they were offered.
it don't take being "been whittled down to nothing". I sort of think that's an exaggeration.
LOL....I'll go with that! hahaIt was more "copious amounts of hyperbole" than simple exaggeration, thank you very much.![]()
PVA, Preferred, TS Customs, Black Canyon Customs, anybody worth their saltOther than proof and straight jacket, who is doing prefits for the CDG?
Southern Precision/BugholesOther than proof and straight jacket, who is doing prefits for the CDG?
And Fisher T&C.PVA, Preferred, TS Customs, Black Canyon Customs, anybody worth their salt
I just got one from PVA on an Osprey blank that's a hammer. I haven't slugged or anything fancy on this prefit, just screwed on and shot. very happy.Other than proof and straight jacket, who is doing prefits for the CDG?
Yours must have been an early one. I called up Bugholes, discussed what I wanted, offered to send in my LA but they said not needed. Got it 8 weeks later. Does shoot Bugholes.Southern Precision/Bugholes
Lebanon Gun Shop did mine but I gave them my action to measure from. Very nice work though.
To clarify: Mine was done at Lebanon Gun Shop, it was the first one they had seen. It was an early action, a day one order.Yours must have been an early one. I called up Bugholes, discussed what I wanted, offered to send in my LA but they said not needed. Got it 8 weeks later. Does shoot Bugholes.
To clarify: Mine was done at Lebanon Gun Shop, it was the first one they had seen. It was an early action, a day one order.
Would trust Bugholes or Lebanon Gun shop both to deliver top quality work. Not sure where Mattv931 is located in TN but these are 2 good options if he wants to keep it in state.
Hahaha! I’m sure that it was an autocorrect issue, but “bungholes”.I'm about 2 hours west of bungholes, I think he's in Cookeville, I'm right beside Clarksville tn. I do appreciate the info amigo!
Whats wrong with a bunghole? It's just the hole on a cask. Depends on if the like the drinks that spend time in casks.Hahaha! I’m sure that it was an autocorrect issue, but “bungholes”.
Not sure how much Greg or Russ would appreciate that, but I do think they have a sense of humor.
Anyway, my post was also a clarification for anyone looking for a shouldered prefit for their CDG action. Southern Precision, or bungholes if you will, has it dialed in. Just order and wait for it to show up. Spin it on and go shooting.