The war in Ukraine and Donbas

UKDslayer · Nov 16, 2024

Emerson0311 said:
I’m still a bit surprised that the NWO folks allow us to interact this way. It builds confidence knowing I’m not the only one who sees things similarly. It also shows that they are not omnipotent.

I think one of the most beautiful things about this election win is realizing that there are more of us that feel the same way about this once great country and about what we need to change it back towards the right track than against it. We all knew the Woke agenda was evil horsesh8t and that the MSM propaganda machine was just that, but we feared that many other Americans didn't appreciate this.

We now know that we are the majority; and hopefully this will persuade other citizens in other countries to likewise defend themselves and their national pride against satanic woke globalists.

mosin46 · Nov 16, 2024

i hope you guys are right. we ARE risk taking loud mouths. we ARE being monitored,recorded and listed. elon and tucker have kinda opened a door as their platform is much broader than ours. when you reach a certain age,you realize that a lot of small stuff doesn't really matter and helping leave something worthwhile is really a minor risk. doing that won't be easy. knowing you are not alone in your thinking matters.

kortik · Nov 16, 2024

Latest news from over there. It looks like Russians are serious about getting Kiev under their control, one way or the other.

mosin46 · Nov 16, 2024

i am not a candidate for the manstein or zhukov awards but i have thought that kiev/odessa would define/be part of a good stop line that would polish off ukraine and zelinsky and make it hard for nato to fuck around and wouldn't create a salient to attack rus territory from. crimea well covered. just my uneducated opinion.

Eostech · Nov 16, 2024

mosin46 said:
i hope you guys are right. we ARE risk taking loud mouths. we ARE being monitored,recorded and listed.

The issue with scooping up any and all electronic data is that no one has the man power to deal with it.

You’ve probably got a minimum of 10% of the American population saying edgy shit online, that's over thirty million people. If you are political cough FBI cough than you got sixty odd million voting the wrong way that you might need to look at.

Finally none of that data is really useful unless it is updated in real time, people's outlooks and actions can swing radically and unpredictably with certain events. Even amongst relatively militant islamists you probably get thousands of online posters than hundreds of potential terrorist than dozens of potential terrorist with the means to do something but never do for every one that does.

sloporsche · Nov 17, 2024

Eostech said:
The issue with scooping up any and all electronic data is that no one has the man power to deal with it.

You’ve probably got a minimum of 10% of the American population saying edgy shit online, that's over thirty million people. If you are political cough FBI cough than you got sixty odd million voting the wrong way that you might need to look at.

Finally none of that data is really useful unless it is updated in real time, people's outlooks and actions can swing radically and unpredictably with certain events. Even amongst relatively militant islamists you probably get thousands of online posters than hundreds of potential terrorist than dozens of potential terrorist with the means to do something but never do for every one that does.

iirc the irs uses computers to scan forms rather than one form one human check, the putor is programed to look at odd math ,trends etc ....same with threads posted on known trouble/interesting forums but looking for key words eg topics ,length , zeal etc . todays safety tip ........DO NOT POST STUPID/ILLEGAL STUFF ON A PUTOR OR THEY MIGHT BUST YOUR DOOR DOWN AND SEIZE /KILL YOUR WILDLIFE PETS . Enjoy our days of just being free to read the stuff and post smiley faces ,they might not last too long , look no further than england . For a laugh go back a couple of years on one of your forums and read what you posted sometimes you might ask......was that me ?

Mr.BR · Nov 17, 2024

Edsel said:
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Just to give the above a little prefix, if you will...

Sanctioned themselves into this, now they would like to outlaw AfD right-wing party as its poised to win big in February elections.

''A failure to protect German industry from the energy price spike may turn the 2020s into “a lost decade for Germany” and further fuel the rise of the populist far-right Alternative für Deutschland (AfD), ''

''The collapse in living standards experienced by Germans is unprecedented since world war two. While it is true that the factors that fuelled the rise of the AfD go beyond economics, it is also impossible to ignore how this unprecedented slump in German living went hand-in-hand with the rising popularity of the far right.”''

German living standards plummeted after Russia invaded Ukraine, say economists

Energy price shocks had huge knock-on effect, with real wages falling further in 2022 than in any year since 1950, says report

www.theguardian.com

Bigfatcock · Nov 17, 2024

Fuck ukraine.

Edsel · Nov 17, 2024

Mr.BR said:
''A failure to protect German industry from the energy price spike may turn the 2020s into “a lost decade for Germany” and further fuel the rise of the populist far-right Alternative für Deutschland (AfD), ''

''The collapse in living standards experienced by Germans is unprecedented since world war two. While it is true that the factors that fuelled the rise of the AfD go beyond economics, it is also impossible to ignore how this unprecedented slump in German living went hand-in-hand with the rising popularity of the far right.”

Classic.

U.S.A.!

U.S.A.!

U.S.A.!

doubloon · Nov 17, 2024

Edsel said:
Classic.

U.S.A.!

U.S.A.!

U.S.A.!

I promise you we can do it.

Longshot231 · Nov 17, 2024

kortik said:
Latest news from over there. It looks like Russians are serious about getting Kiev under their control, one way or the other.

They are getting serious about taking Kiev before January 20th.

If any negotiations take place, afterwards, it’s easier for Putin to say; “I’ve got Kiev, and by extension, Ukraine. Why should I give it back?”

Yasherka · Nov 17, 2024

Longshot231 said:
They are getting serious about taking Kiev before January 20th.

If any negotiations take place, afterwards, it’s easier for Putin to say; “I’ve got Kiev, and by extension, Ukraine. Why should I give it back?”

I don't think Putin wants Kiev, or Ukraine as a whole. I think he'd be more than happy with the ethnically Russian eastern oblasts which, coincidentally have all the mineral rich deposits. If he tried to take all of the country he'd be dealing with a low-level insurgency until the end of time. Financed by us of course

NoDopes · Nov 17, 2024

Talks must of not went well.. he launched a massive missile strike across Ukraine taking out electric infrastructure again.

Redlion · Nov 17, 2024

Deep State looking to get us into WWIII before Trump comes into office.

Big Trouble Before Exit – Joe Biden Approves U.S. Targeting Systems and Long-Range Missiles for Ukraine to Strike Deep Inside Russia

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...les-for-ukraine-to-strike-deep-inside-russia/

BREAKING: Joe Biden Authorizes Ukraine to Strike INSIDE RUSSIA with U.S. Long Range Missiles in Major Policy Reversal, Two Months Before Trump Takes Office

mosin46 · Nov 17, 2024

well maybe vlad will just finish it off if that happens. and if we don't get nuced. just have to wonder why the dem's deep state keeps trying to start a nuc war. not winnable for anyone.

theLBC · Nov 17, 2024

Redlion said:
Deep State looking to get us into WWIII before Trump comes into office.

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...les-for-ukraine-to-strike-deep-inside-russia/

BREAKING: Joe Biden Authorizes Ukraine to Strike INSIDE RUSSIA with U.S. Long Range Missiles in Major Policy Reversal, Two Months Before Trump Takes Office

i read that the approval was for russian military positions around kursk, which is in russia but i wouldn't say "deep inside russia".
i think ukraine should worry more about electricity than meaningless attacks on russian soil for morale.

Bigfatcock · Nov 17, 2024

Redlion said:
Deep State looking to get us into WWIII before Trump comes into office.

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...les-for-ukraine-to-strike-deep-inside-russia/

BREAKING: Joe Biden Authorizes Ukraine to Strike INSIDE RUSSIA with U.S. Long Range Missiles in Major Policy Reversal, Two Months Before Trump Takes Office

This is why I have been saying fuck Ukraine since this fiasco started.

sloporsche · Nov 17, 2024

Redlion said:
Deep State looking to get us into WWIII before Trump comes into office.

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...les-for-ukraine-to-strike-deep-inside-russia/

BREAKING: Joe Biden Authorizes Ukraine to Strike INSIDE RUSSIA with U.S. Long Range Missiles in Major Policy Reversal, Two Months Before Trump Takes Office

Things like this is what i am concerned with the fool would not just sit quietly for a couple of months ,instead he is giving trump more wreckage to fix .....can't brandon be stopped on this by congress

widefat77 · Nov 17, 2024

Redlion said:
Deep State looking to get us into WWIII before Trump comes into office.

https://theconservativetreehouse.co...les-for-ukraine-to-strike-deep-inside-russia/

BREAKING: Joe Biden Authorizes Ukraine to Strike INSIDE RUSSIA with U.S. Long Range Missiles in Major Policy Reversal, Two Months Before Trump Takes Office

I just want to say that I have enjoyed my time here on the hide. Soon, I (along with most Americans) will dissipate in the wind as a pile of ash. If I do manage to survive, I expect to die a slow death in the follow-on nuclear winter.

Redlion · Nov 17, 2024

widefat77 said:
I just want to say that I have enjoyed my time here on the hide. Soon, I (along with most Americans) will dissipate in the wind as a pile of ash. If I do manage to survive, I expect to die a slow death in the follow-on nuclear winter.

Emerson0311 · Nov 17, 2024

mosin46 said:
well maybe vlad will just finish it off if that happens. and if we don't get nuced. just have to wonder why the dem's deep state keeps trying to start a nuc war. not winnable for anyone.

They must be more desperate than we thought. This is apparently their “hill to die on”. I will them success in their own destruction.

Darayavaus · Nov 17, 2024

Bigfatcock said:
This is why I have been saying fuck Ukraine since this fiasco started.

you have? it's the first I heard you say it!

UKDslayer · Nov 17, 2024

Eostech said:
The issue with scooping up any and all electronic data is that no one has the man power to deal with it.

You’ve probably got a minimum of 10% of the American population saying edgy shit online, that's over thirty million people. If you are political cough FBI cough than you got sixty odd million voting the wrong way that you might need to look at.

But 280,000 of us have "special" files. The only thing evil needs to succeed is for good men to stay quiet.

theLBC · Nov 17, 2024

widefat77 said:
I just want to say that I have enjoyed my time here on the hide. Soon, I (along with most Americans) will dissipate in the wind as a pile of ash. If I do manage to survive, I expect to die a slow death in the follow-on nuclear winter.

putin hasn't even gone grozny on them yet. i suspect this would come first.

Darayavaus · Nov 17, 2024

widefat77 said:
I just want to say that I have enjoyed my time here on the hide. Soon, I (along with most Americans) will dissipate in the wind as a pile of ash. If I do manage to survive, I expect to die a slow death in the follow-on nuclear winter.

akmike47 · Monday at 3:08 AM

widefat77 said:
I just want to say that I have enjoyed my time here on the hide. Soon, I (along with most Americans) will dissipate in the wind as a pile of ash. If I do manage to survive, I expect to die a slow death in the follow-on nuclear winter.

There’s ways to speed up a slow death

clcustom1911 · Monday at 4:14 AM

mosin46 said:
.... just have to wonder why the dem's deep state keeps trying to start a nuc war. not winnable for anyone.

1. They believe in the depopulation agenda and neo-feudalism.

2. They want a believable scapegoat for the coming economic collapse (i.e. Putin and/or Orange Man).

GreenGO Juan · Monday at 9:30 AM

So a Missile with a little more range thats going to fix everything right? Pretty Soon those Ruskies will be begging for mercy...

Just like the fresh Tanks and F-16's did.

Right??

theLBC · Monday at 9:49 AM

theLBC said:
putin hasn't even gone grozny on them yet. i suspect this would come first.

tread lightly...

Bigfatcock · Monday at 10:22 AM

The globalists couldn’t get us into WWIII during the initial russian invasion.

The globalists couldn’t get us into WWIII when israel let themselves be attacked.

Now they are hoping this escalation will do it.

lariat · Monday at 10:25 AM

theLBC said:
tread lightly...

This dude is just like Netanyahu. They both talk a big game as long as the US provides weapons and intelligence. And neither appear to be the least bit grateful.

If we just stopped supporting them 2/3rds of our risk of getting pulled further into wars would disappear in less than a week.

theLBC · Monday at 10:29 AM

this is not good for the ordinary people in ukraine. call for peace now before winter hits for real!

Russian Forces Unleash Over 120 Missiles and 90 Drones in One of the Largest Strikes of the War Against Ukraine – Several Regions Undergoing Power Blackouts (VIDEOS) | The Gateway Pundit | by Paul Serran

Russian Federation forces have undertaken one of the largest and most powerful strikes of the whole war overnight, with over 120 missiles and 90 drones used, according to Kiev’s numbers.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

GreenGO Juan · Monday at 10:33 AM

lariat said:
This dude is just like Netanyahu. They both talk a big game as long as the US provides weapons and intelligence. And neither appear to be the least bit grateful.

If we just stopped supporting them 2/3rds of our risk of getting pulled further into wars would disappear in less than a week.

Israel's GDP is 2 1/2 times what Ukraines is. Israel could afford to do what they are doing on their own. Ukraine could not.

Terry Cross · Monday at 10:53 AM

theLBC said:
this is not good for the ordinary people in ukraine.

Russian Forces Unleash Over 120 Missiles and 90 Drones in One of the Largest Strikes of the War Against Ukraine – Several Regions Undergoing Power Blackouts (VIDEOS) | The Gateway Pundit | by Paul Serran

Russian Federation forces have undertaken one of the largest and most powerful strikes of the whole war overnight, with over 120 missiles and 90 drones used, according to Kiev’s numbers.

www.thegatewaypundit.com

No one gives a shit about the ordinary people of Ukraine except maybe the ordinary people of other countries.
I might even go as far as saying that Russia cares more about the ordinary people of Ukraine than the West and NATO do. That is the only reason Putin hasn't flattened the entire country. He is taking casualties that he didn't have to take in order to buy time and ward off real escalations.

Mr.BR · Monday at 11:21 AM

GreenGO Juan said:
Israel's GDP is 2 1/2 times what Ukraines is. Israel could afford to do what they are doing on their own. Ukraine could not.

Israel could not afford it either they would run out of bombs in 2weeks max .But unlike Ukraine Israel sets its own pace and operates at will , if there were no resources to back it up it would just scale down ops and nothing would really change for them.

NoDopes · Monday at 11:23 AM

Terry Cross said:
He is taking casualties that he didn't have to take in order to buy time and ward off real escalations.

He's taking WAY to many casualties... I would have escalated much sooner if I were in his shoes.

lariat · Monday at 11:25 AM

GreenGO Juan said:
Israel's GDP is 2 1/2 times what Ukraines is. Israel could afford to do what they are doing on their own. Ukraine could not.

If that's the case then why are we sending them cash and weapons, in addition to carriers to fend off opponents? And no one seems to remember Israel wanting to send the Palestinians to the US. Their GDP has been absolutely crushed since this whole thing has started. Netanyahu's approval rating is around 19%, and a lot of that has to do with the economic issues that this is creating there.

theLBC · Monday at 11:40 AM

xiden was in some jungle in peru or something when the announcement was made, so perhaps he didn't know.

theLBC · Monday at 12:00 PM

sweden is concerned...

Sweden tells citizens to prepare for WAR: Pamphlets sent to millions

It comes as neighbouring Finland launched a new preparedness website and after Norwegians recently received booklets instructing them on how to manage on their own for a week in the event of war.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Threadcutter308 · Monday at 12:02 PM

theLBC said:
xiden was in some jungle in peru or something when the announcement was made, so perhaps he didn't know.

Shocked, I tell you.

You mean the dims would engage in deceit ? Say it ain't so

Who could've seen that coming ?

GreenGO Juan · Monday at 12:06 PM

lariat said:
If that's the case then why are we sending them cash and weapons, in addition to carriers to fend off opponents? And no one seems to remember Israel wanting to send the Palestinians to the US. Their GDP has been absolutely crushed since this whole thing has started. Netanyahu's approval rating is around 19%, and a lot of that has to do with the economic issues that this is creating there.

I see your point and yes it does bring back lash but I think people want an Ally in the region, proximity to the Suez and the only land Bridge to Africa. So control of trade. Its a question of does the pro's out weight the negatives.

Biblical reasons as well.

Even before the War Israels GDP was over 2x Ukraines. It is a very rich country with a very intelligent population.

Edit, and why are we sending them aid. To keep that partnership strong. The US also benefits from it. For example I believe 42 of the F-15' 104 A2A kills were accomplished by Israeli pilots. The MiG 21 they handed us to study among other things. Its not just a one way relationship.

sloporsche · Monday at 12:32 PM

GreenGO Juan said:
I see your point and yes it does bring back lash but I think people want an Ally in the region, proximity to the Suez and the only land Bridge to Africa. So control of trade. Its a question of does the pro's out weight the negatives.

Biblical reasons as well.

Even before the War Israels GDP was over 2x Ukraines. It is a very rich country with a very intelligent population.

Edit, and why are we sending them aid. To keep that partnership strong. The US also benefits from it. For example I believe 42 of the F-15' 104 A2A kills were accomplished by Israeli pilots. The MiG 21 they handed us to study among other things. Its not just a one way relationship.

yepper ....i do not ever remember israel denying an air port /sea port to the US for any reason ,they are maybe one of our best nation friends .

GreenGO Juan · Monday at 12:53 PM

Claim above, Russia hit the Kremenchuk Damn holding back a massive reservoir on the Dniper. Hearing Ukraines power generation is down to 20% after the recent strike.

sloporsche · Monday at 12:53 PM

and we use them....what is your point lariat ?

GreenGO Juan · Monday at 12:59 PM

sloporsche said:
and we use them....what is your point lariat ?

What he posted never happened, its source was a satire website. Gordon Duff, Veterans Today.

Fact Check: Netanyahu Supposedly Said, 'America Is a Golden Calf and We Will Suck It Dry.' Here's the Truth.

The alleged quote by the Israeli prime minister, supposedly recorded in 1990, first appeared in a 2015 article online.

www.yahoo.com

Notice the post was deleted. Wonder Why?

theLBC · Monday at 1:05 PM

akmike47 · Monday at 1:06 PM

theLBC said:

This maybe how they make Kamala pres for a month or so

232593 · Monday at 1:08 PM

theLBC said:
sweden is concerned...

Sweden tells citizens to prepare for WAR: Pamphlets sent to millions

It comes as neighbouring Finland launched a new preparedness website and after Norwegians recently received booklets instructing them on how to manage on their own for a week in the event of war.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Sweden should be more concerned by its immigration problem than by Russia.

sloporsche · Monday at 1:10 PM

GreenGO Juan said:
What he posted never happened, its source was a satire website. Gordon Duff, Veterans Today.

Fact Check: Netanyahu Supposedly Said, 'America Is a Golden Calf and We Will Suck It Dry.' Here's the Truth.

The alleged quote by the Israeli prime minister, supposedly recorded in 1990, first appeared in a 2015 article online.

www.yahoo.com

Notice the post was deleted. Wonder Why?

well at least he deleted it that counts as a little something

Longshot231 · Monday at 1:27 PM

GreenGO Juan said:
So a Missile with a little more range thats going to fix everything right? Pretty Soon those Ruskies will be begging for mercy...

Just like the fresh Tanks and F-16's did.

Right??

The idiots that put poopy-pants up to launch missiles into Russia fail to realize that we aren't the only ones with missiles and have the will to use them.

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