Now they are fucking cleaning the place out, per the livestreams. TV's, appliances, clothing. Way to go, on GLOBAL media coverage when you are just receiving sympathy and support from a lot more folks now...
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4 Minneapolis officers fired in death of black man after video shows officer pinning knee against his neck
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Now they are fucking cleaning the place out, per the livestreams. TV's, appliances, clothing. Way to go, on GLOBAL media coverage when you are just receiving sympathy and support from a lot more folks now...
Yep. They lost support. Me included.Now they are fucking cleaning the place out, per the livestreams. TV's, appliances, clothing. Way to go, on GLOBAL media coverage when you are just receiving sympathy and support from a lot more folks now...
From Target CEO....….."Hey Nancy and Joe can you please get your voters under control"
I despise so called law enforcement. Every cop there should be charged with murder. They all stood by while one of them killed that man! If after he stopped moving didn't give you a clue something was wrong. When he pissed on himself should have. They never once checked to see how he was even with bystanders begging them to.
I believe in right or wrong with not much grey area. Whatever this man did sure didn't qualify him to be killed on the spot. If he was a family member or friend, those cops would never make it to trial. I hope they get the same kind of treatment as they gave him. It wouldn't be great if the public took them out and killed them. Justice is justice. Protecting the criminals by hiding behind a badge is not justice.
I believe in right or wrong with not much grey area. Whatever this man did sure didn't qualify him to be killed on the spot. If he was a family member or friend, those cops would never make it to trial. I hope they get the same kind of treatment as they gave him. It wouldn't be great if the public took them out and killed them. Justice is justice. Protecting the criminals by hiding behind a badge is not justice.
Careful with the broad brush.
People with broad brushes on this topic will get banned.
Letting you know since you appear newish.
I heed your warning! I am sorry , but I feel if you are not condemning the bad, you are just as guilty. If you are afraid of repercussions, step up before they have a chance to start. I will stand side by side with anyone to defend what is right. If the brush doesn't touch you, you are not the problem. It's those that get a full coat of paint that should worry. If a hornet from the nest stings you, do you just go after that one....or the entire nest?
and I am not singling out anyone and definitely just law enforcement. They should be above all this as most are.
Apparently this bushel was all bad!! Also, the older I get the more a discussion I had with a colleague of mine back a few years out of university sticks with me - without going into details the essence is "One doesn't have to go to university to be smart; and, just because one has some diploma from an institution of "higher education" does not mean one has more moral character." I can point to two characters in my own family to which this directly applies.
It's sad to think that these former officers apparently had "higher education" yet completely failed the test in real life. To quote Def Leppard..."Action, Action not words." Their actions speak higher than those words saying "Diploma." One bad cop is one thing, multiple bad cops all in one setting is super troubling to me. These type of actions continue to help dissolve our Republic. As somebody said earlier and I'll paraphrase and hopefully not take too much liberty...'gun people should understand how one bad one taints everything. ' Well, I think we all do understand that; however, this was not just one person - there were multiple law ENFORCEMENT officers there. Those other officers completely failed to ENFORCE the law.
From my previous post about the State Trooper. I've found that for the most part, State Troopers are the cream of the crop. Like the Texas Rangers - they seem to have their act together. We need more like this. A cop's job is hard enough; and these losers just made every LEO's job harder.
All that said...there is no excuse to LOOT. What the hell people? There is a legitimate issue here and they go mess up and loot - arrest them and put them in jail!!! I'm all for justice; but, justice under the law - enforced equally for all concerned.
Rant over....
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Why haven't they arrested the officers involved? There is a video showing a man literally murdered because of what they did and did not do.
The broad brush specifically includes the LE on this site. You have to tread lightly....no knees to the neck!
If you get trapped by the looters, hide behind the belts or the Father’s Day cards. You will be safe there.
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The system didnt force this guy to use a force compliance method That is universally banned, refuse to pull up and despite half a dozen people saying hes not breathing, sit there like a retard While he dies.
the system has plenty of faults but dont blame this murder ( yes only a fool would think this would not kill someone) on anyone but those who were reponsible.
I would share my opinion on how to deal with these 4 cops but dont want to get banned over it.
the system has plenty of faults but dont blame this murder ( yes only a fool would think this would not kill someone) on anyone but those who were reponsible.
I would share my opinion on how to deal with these 4 cops but dont want to get banned over it.
"Obama's carpetbaggers" fixed it for you. Why do you think there are so many firings? I didn't vote for this guy, I went libertarian, but his actions have been far more favorable than anything I've seen out of any major party candidate in my lifetime. Factor in that the entirety of the media has been against him since day one and I've grown to respect the man.
At some level, while we all are responsible for our own actions, the lack of officer preparedness lies with those that determine who to hire, the required skills of the LEO's, the academy training, the field training and managing LOE field behavior through peer/management interactions. Any one of the 3 other officers could have stepped in and they did not. This is a departmental failure. The Chief and mayor/city counsel all have culpability here.
This right here^^^^^^.
Couldn't have said it better myself. Once the subject was restrained, cuffs applied, leg restraints, if needed, he should have been sat up and placed on the curb. If he was spitting, Spit Mask time. The three other officers, should have assisted, by securing subjects head and any other appendage, that was going to cause harm to either the officer(s), or the subject himself. From past experience, if the subject is screaming and/or talking, he's breathing. BUT, with occurrences that have happened with PD officers in the past, they should know, the neck is the last place you want to use to restrain someone. I will admit, I've wanted to use Sleeper Holds on certain subjects, BUT, know better.
I went thru training(one of many, many, days-off, POSC sessions), during my final months before I retired and we were re-trained, that that area was a no-no.
It was a total Dept./training breakdown, and what Pester quoted, is totally correct, the way I see it, anyways. From the little I have seen, more evidence, good or bad, needs to come forward. From the video/body cam, the officer was wrong and should answer for it. The other three, they need to answer also. Mac
What in the f$$k are u talking about .u couldn't do that in Afghanistan .if u found a explosive on a a$$hole .I treat. A animal I kill for food better.
For real. He literally has his entire weight bearing down on a dudes neck while he is proned out with his hands cuffed for like 6 minutes.
But yea I'm sure it was a heart attack or the betus that killed him,.....
If that's aimed at me iv paid more for a hell of a lot less .I have drug my butt in more in more foreign dirt than a national geographic reporter. So bust me you ain't getting a virgin
There asses are up shit creek! As they should be!
If you work with someone on a daily basis and you see something off and don't say something you're a shitbird .do the right thing .it's only somebody else's fault if they don't.
Oh, I get it. I’m with you. He could have just completed a double homicide and defecated on three cops trying to arrest him. I was only trying to point out that there were clues that there was some kind of struggle previously. I think as it pertains to this event, that it bears more weight in showing the officers’ mindset than the use of force.
LoL the "Smoke and Scan" Channel where the host takes bong hits while covering the live feeds.
So far I've seen a Target, Cub, and Dollar store looted.
And a AutoZone lit on fire.
If cops’ mindset affects their use of force to the point where they have a subject controlled, but still feel the need to kneel on his neck until he’s dead, several things come to mind:
1. Lack of professionalism
2. Lack of training
3. Lack of good character
What the suspect does should have little to no bearing on the cops’ actions or mindset once he’s under control.
Also, in which American law enforcement agency is kneeling on someone’s neck an approved control technique?
Yeah, because nothing says “justice” like helping yourself to a new TV from the local Target 
So you have the dumb ads cuffed. And on the ground now let's choke him to death.iv had people fire an ak till empty and took em down zip em up and moved on seen the same sob a week later in a village local assholes let em go .but the thought to put my knee on a human and slow choke him to death is a punk move .the looting and the rest history repeats itself .yes it's a cultures and whatever you ask for you should receive.but to slowly choke a man to death with him begging you ,what you did should be done to you .eye for an eye
The man was handcuffed when he was removed from his vehicle. There's a video of him being led away from the vehicle and being sat down against a building. I currently can't find that clip. I believe it was on HLN this morning.
They said that he resisted getting into the patrol car and then they took him to the ground. I did not see any video of any of that.
That's the point where the OP videos start.
They said that he resisted getting into the patrol car and then they took him to the ground. I did not see any video of any of that.
That's the point where the OP videos start.
funny, the news feeds we got here last night all stated that (the victim) was a security guard, and had been for 5 years. Allegedly, he 'looked like' a suspect, and hence the police pounced.
I don't know from shine-o-la, I'm just repeating what the media was 'putting out there' last night. My point being, the narrative is changing somewhat.
I don't know from shine-o-la, I'm just repeating what the media was 'putting out there' last night. My point being, the narrative is changing somewhat.
I'm sure it's more to it than we know
but the one video of a cop knee down and the man begging is enuff .3 or 4 standing around and the move is to choke him to death not transport to jail. Really ?
This is spot on!
mid you ever get a chance to do some BJJ you will get a glimpse of this when someone one chokes you out
I agree.
My post early on in this. Still stands. There was no way that cop didn't know something was wrong when he went limp. I have choked people out before and you know it. The knee cut off blood flow to the brain. It had little to no effect on the man's breathing.
I hope that cops cellie has a nice wardrobe for him to wear. But that's not likely. He'll be segregated for his protection. Which is too bad. Unless he has a similar fate as Epstein.
Just adding info for anyone that wants it.
My post early on in this. Still stands. There was no way that cop didn't know something was wrong when he went limp. I have choked people out before and you know it. The knee cut off blood flow to the brain. It had little to no effect on the man's breathing.
I hope that cops cellie has a nice wardrobe for him to wear. But that's not likely. He'll be segregated for his protection. Which is too bad. Unless he has a similar fate as Epstein.
Agreed on all your points. Clearly this is not a simple "one size fits all" problem and the solution will not be either. I respect the concept of law enforcement and know that without good cops our society really crumbles. From my perspective its difficult to fault line level LEO's for all the problems. The good ones have likely found a way to survive in a "control" driven culture like you see in most large cities. The bad ones, like in the video, if the video is a true representation of the facts, are doing as leadership wants.
That boy’s going to jail. There is no acceptable situation where any LEO would be justified to kneel on someone’s neck for that long, especially when already cuffed and there’s additional manpower present at the scene. Clearly punitive, and I hope he’ll pay the price for killing a man.
I sent a simple text message to a young female officer on my shift last month. In summary, I told her she needs to let a supervisor know if she puts in for time off with minimal lead time (she put in for a day off with only 3 days in advance, knowing there was no scheduling supervisor working for 2 of those days, meaning I had to scramble and get shift coverage on the day before it was needed. Wouldn’t even have been an issue if she’d just told someone about the time-off request so it could be handled). I got a short affirmative reply that night, and two days later I got called to the Chief’s office.
He says she feels like she’s being singled out because she’s a female, and that I wouldn’t have “gotten on” any of her male coworkers like that. I told Chief that I felt I sent her a respectful text message, asking that she make sure to be considerate of her fellow coworkers and their own valuable time-off, and that her gender had absolutely nothing to do with it. I further explained I have literally told other young officers the same thing under similar circumstances. I was essentially told that because their union contract doesn’t lay out a timeframe for utilizing time-off, I couldn’t demand more notice from her. I straight out told him I disagreed, he was clearly worried about a lawsuit that would never go anywhere, and if that was how she wanted to flush her career down the toilet then he should give her as much rope as he could. I’ve come to realize I have little actual “supervisory” power, but as their direct supervisor I’ll still end up listed as a defendant in any civil rights lawsuits if one of my youngsters does something stupid and gets sued.
There’s days I love, and days I hate my job. I love helping the downtrodden,improving quality of life, and keeping the public safe. I despise bureaucracy and being told how to manage my officers.
This is absolutely spot on, although I’m not sure it applies to this situation. The officer in question looks old enough he’s been around a while
I sent a simple text message to a young female officer on my shift last month. In summary, I told her she needs to let a supervisor know if she puts in for time off with minimal lead time (she put in for a day off with only 3 days in advance, knowing there was no scheduling supervisor working for 2 of those days, meaning I had to scramble and get shift coverage on the day before it was needed. Wouldn’t even have been an issue if she’d just told someone about the time-off request so it could be handled). I got a short affirmative reply that night, and two days later I got called to the Chief’s office.
He says she feels like she’s being singled out because she’s a female, and that I wouldn’t have “gotten on” any of her male coworkers like that. I told Chief that I felt I sent her a respectful text message, asking that she make sure to be considerate of her fellow coworkers and their own valuable time-off, and that her gender had absolutely nothing to do with it. I further explained I have literally told other young officers the same thing under similar circumstances. I was essentially told that because their union contract doesn’t lay out a timeframe for utilizing time-off, I couldn’t demand more notice from her. I straight out told him I disagreed, he was clearly worried about a lawsuit that would never go anywhere, and if that was how she wanted to flush her career down the toilet then he should give her as much rope as he could. I’ve come to realize I have little actual “supervisory” power, but as their direct supervisor I’ll still end up listed as a defendant in any civil rights lawsuits if one of my youngsters does something stupid and gets sued.
There’s days I love, and days I hate my job. I love helping the downtrodden,improving quality of life, and keeping the public safe. I despise bureaucracy and being told how to manage my officers.
They are fucking looting the Target...
Couple of points.
It's been mentioned that police body language, hand on firearm or surrounding a subject or any of the other "take control" postures can instigate a subconscious fight or flight response.
This is true, and far from a recent development, but it is also totally understandable.
I was pulled over for speeding on Maui in the early 80s.
As an Aussie, I did what I normally did here (I say did because I learned, eventually, that if you don't attract attention you don't get pulled over) and I was getting out of the car and was reaching for my wallet to get my license when the officer went a little "postal"on me.
He jumped back behind the rear of his car and had his sidearm in his hand but not completely drawn and yelled at me to stay in the car.
All ended OK though.
I explained my actions and, perhaps because I was a foreign visitor and politely asked WTF, he actually explained his response, he had been fired on without any warning on a stop the previous year. Regardless of the background reason, I was still feeling the need for new underwear afterwards.
Many tend to forget that despite the uniform, the training, the guns, the body language, cops are humans and therefore subject to the same foibles as anyone, they do an essential job and are seldom given the kudos their every day service to us deserves.
"Good cop has a normal day serving his jurisdiction" doesn't make good click-bait.
That said, as humans, a certain percentage of them are natural born cunts, just like non-cops. The four involved here are obviously in the cunt category and each deserves to be in a cell as Bubba's new bitch.
As to the driver of the incident, be it race, poor training or just 4 cunts killing someone in their power, the aftermath of rioting and looting is inexcusable.
If it was racially driven, do the looters really think that destroying the property of others not involved in the murder of the unfortunate Mr Floyd will suddenly cure that issue?
This reaction can only reinforce the veiw of those with a racist mindset that race, rather than environment and upbringing, is a prime determinant in behaviour.
These 4 cunts just made every good cop's job harder and more dangerous.
Actually, there are agencies in WA state that have been using the neck restraint hold to make combative people pass out and then handcuff them. I was taught the technique the officer used, but he did it wrong at least how I was trained.
We were taught to place the shin across the back of the neck and only put weight on the ball of your foot. Reason being is putting your knee across their back diagonally, they can just pick up their legs and then they have leverage to just stand right up. The technique across the neck was only to be used if absolutely necessary and definitely not for an extended period of time.
The problem with talking and breathing is their are officers who think if you can talk, you can breathe. I’ve also encountered people who try to say they can’t breathe just to hope of a chance to fight again or evade.
However, this appears to be excessive force to me. Application of control tactics is to gain control, and once you have control...let up. I also didn’t see a restraint strap being used. If someone is that out of control, get that strap out and hog tie them.
Terrible situation and of course it has to be turned into a race agenda.
The Daniel Shaver incident cost ArmyJerry (former member) a short term ban. Prior to his current ban. Not directed at you.
As bad as this situation is, folks need to stop the rioting soon, or national sentiment is gonna shift hard out of their favor.
Watching Fox News during my lunch break just now, they went to on-site reporting footage of supposed “demonstrators” burning down an AutoZone. The poor newscaster was basically being chased away from the scene by subjects flashing gang signs into the camera and screaming Fuck The Police.
Watching Fox News during my lunch break just now, they went to on-site reporting footage of supposed “demonstrators” burning down an AutoZone. The poor newscaster was basically being chased away from the scene by subjects flashing gang signs into the camera and screaming Fuck The Police.
Are some of my posts reading wrong? Everyone (@THEIS @Nicosdad @Bitchtitsbob) seems to be responding as if I’m defending the police. I’m not.
Absolutely agree. The character was so bad that the people that filmed the murder pointed out his body language as he killed the victim. His apparent motivations were visible in his body language.
I agree. That cop just murdered a guy. I’m having a hard time imagining what he was thinking happened when the guy went limp. If he wasn’t purposely trying to kill him, and surely he didn’t want to die in prison and scatter his family to the wind, then what was he thinking? Did the officer think he could just hold the choke for another couple minutes without consequence?! It seems like they may have gotten into a battle of wills with the onlookers and killed the man to prove a point. The cops couldn’t stop choking him, because then the concerned citizens would be “right” or they would be “in control”??! The onlookers tried to reason with them as well, pointing out the nose bleed and the lack of breathing. What possible reason would you have for refusing to check for a pulse when an off-duty firefighter identifies herself and requests it? Can you imagine what they were thinking when they started to come out of their control drama and realized they just killed him? No way, through even the most convoluted means, to make this look like “following my training”. The puke factor has to be off the charts.
Yea, the truth never needs to see the light of day, or the trends being started to correct wrongs in a protected class,... who will not cull their own scum. My guess there is history, with these scum bags. Sadly the public will be task to pay for all of this, but rightly so. They are the ones who allowed their so called police force, to hire trash like that in the first place. Get involved in your A/O or don't bitch when shit like this happens.
Ok. So this cop restrained this guy far too long and killed him. I get the rioting at the police station. I get the peaceful protests. But what in the fuck gives these animals the right to go in businesses that had NOTHING to do with the incident and rape and pillage? And some of you fuckers wonder why some “people” are looked at in a bad light? Take off your fucking blinders. They aren’t the same, never will be, no matter how much you try to put them on a pedestal! No matter how much you lower the standards so they can get a fair shake. Call a spade a fucking spade!!! What happened to him was terrible, but they sure as fuck aren’t helping the situation. Want equality??? Act like a fucking equal!!!
I am going to wager that these four probably have several reports in their records for excessive force and other things. They may or may not have been cleared and at worst they were reprimanded. They didn't just wake up that day as total shitbags. I will also wager that most, if not all, the others in that precinct and probably other precinct knew these guys are shitbags. They didn't do anything about it. They allowed it to continue. They deserve whatever comes down.
And this is why I am suffering from FNDS ( fake news derangement syndrome) every time I turn on the news !
Nothing says "justice has been served " like a new tv and some kitchen ware !
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