Accuracy International Picture Thread

[Huskydriver]

Do you think you could beat me in a mag change during a 15 rd stage if you had a 10rd mag and I had a 15rd mag? Clearly, there's no way the fastest mag changer in the west can beat someone that doesn't have to change mags at all. I don't think anyone doesn't know how to change a mag. I just don't understand why 10 is the magic number. Why not ask or expect better? Why not 12 or 15 rounds in a mag? Why is 7 minute abs all fucked up but 6 minute abs is right?

Do you think 12 round stages just magically started happening because that's ideal number per stage lol

If the intent of the 15 round stage was to do a mag change and you brought a 17rd mag just to game it I mean I guess which is pretty much what all of prs has said.

I agree why 10... Why even reload at all? Why not just belt feed it? Why not a drum?

 

[JR1200W3]

Do you think 12 round stages just magically started happening because that's ideal number per stage lol

If the intent of the 15 round stage was to do a mag change and you brought a 17rd mag just to game it I mean I guess which is pretty much what all of prs has said.

I agree why 10... Why even reload at all? Why not just belt feed it? Why not a drum?

Where would you find a 17rd AICS mag? Or a bolt action AI rifle that takes belted ammo? You're speaking in hyperbole. It's not reasonable. But a 12 or 15 rd AICS mag is. I mean what if someone made a 20rd double stack, doublefeed SR25-type mag that allowed a 2.990" COAL in a AICS footprint that fits a R700 custom action or ATX? Would you scorn the manufacturer or would it be a step forward? Why would you resist forward progress? Do you think you are a more pure subscriber to fundamental skills than I am? Do you think you've dedicated more time to speed mag changes than I have in my life? I doubt it.

Sometimes material solutions outweigh training solutions. Yes training is important. But don't be stuck in the past. As far as why do PRS match directors do what they do, I don't think they know why. They do a lot of monkey see, monkey do shit. And contrived, made up shit. But as far as pushing past 10rd stages...why is every stage 10 rds? Why don't we shoot 20 rd stages? Or 30rs stages? Bring it big shifter.

 

[Huskydriver]

Where would you find a 17rd AICS mag? Or a bolt action AI rifle that takes belted ammo? You're speaking in hyperbole. It's not reasonable. But a 12 or 15 rd AICS mag is. I mean what if someone made a 20rd double stack, doublefeed SR25-type mag that allowed a 2.990" COAL in a AICS footprint that fits a R700 custom action or ATX? Would you scorn the manufacturer or would it be a step forward? Why would you resist forward progress? Do you think you are a more pure subscriber to fundamental skills than I am? Do you think you've dedicated more time to speed mag changes than I have in my life? I doubt it.

Sometimes material solutions outweigh training solutions. Yes training is important. But don't be stuck in the past. As far as why do PRS match directors do what they do, I don't think they know why. They do a lot of monkey see, monkey do shit. And contrived, made up shit. But as far as pushing past 10rd stages...why is every stage 10 rds? Why don't we shoot 20 rd stages? Or 30rs stages? Bring it big shifter.

I'm not arguing that things can't progress.... You will get a 16+rd aics pattern mags when md start doing 15+ round stages on the reg .... I'm not scorning the mfg they are filling an obvious demand.

Pretty sure I made 0 assumptions or comments as to your abilities home skillet nor did I make any comparisons to my own

I am merely providing free commentary on a sat night to something I find comical about the competitive shooting world. It's not the first time and won't be the last

 

[Mr. F]

I'm not arguing that things can't progress.... You will get a 16+rd aics pattern mags when md start doing 15+ round stages on the reg .... I'm not scorning the mfg they are filling an obvious demand.

Pretty sure I made 0 assumptions or comments as to your abilities home skillet nor did I make any comparisons to my own

I am merely providing free commentary on a sat night to something I find comical about the competitive shooting world. It's not the first time and won't be the last

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66.6% of the scopes in this pic finished that match.

 

[Huskydriver]

66.6% of the scopes in this pic finished that match.

Truth.... the Schmidt died and took a year to get fixed

 

[Mr. F]

Truth.... the Schmidt died and took a year to get fixed

Bad sine wave vibrations from that weight stack man. Now you know

 

[Huskydriver]

Bad sine wave vibrations from that weight stack man. Now you know

I know shoulda mounted em like the guy to my right did.

 

[MK20]

Where would you find a 17rd AICS mag? Or a bolt action AI rifle that takes belted ammo? You're speaking in hyperbole. It's not reasonable. But a 12 or 15 rd AICS mag is. I mean what if someone made a 20rd double stack, doublefeed SR25-type mag that allowed a 2.990" COAL in a AICS footprint that fits a R700 custom action or ATX? Would you scorn the manufacturer or would it be a step forward? Why would you resist forward progress? Do you think you are a more pure subscriber to fundamental skills than I am? Do you think you've dedicated more time to speed mag changes than I have in my life? I doubt it.

Sometimes material solutions outweigh training solutions. Yes training is important. But don't be stuck in the past. As far as why do PRS match directors do what they do, I don't think they know why. They do a lot of monkey see, monkey do shit. And contrived, made up shit. But as far as pushing past 10rd stages...why is every stage 10 rds? Why don't we shoot 20 rd stages? Or 30rs stages? Bring it big shifter.

I think we should move to 2 round stages. Saves ammo and improves skill.

 

[Defender3]

Fritz at Black Canyon Customs.

+1 to BCC. Just got my new 300PRC barrel that was done with the Alex Wheeler JGS AW2 reamer. I hope I can get it to the range today for zero and some break in.

ETA - 1/8 to handle the Berger 245s and Hornady 250 A-Tips. The stability calculator says I'm good at 1/9 but Fritz had this 1/8 in stock so it made sense and was quicker.

 

[BurtG]

Yea it's pretty weak sauce honestly... Why stop at 40? Why not 100?

 

[BurtG]

Do you think 12 round stages just magically started happening because that's ideal number per stage lol

If the intent of the 15 round stage was to do a mag change and you brought a 17rd mag just to game it I mean I guess which is pretty much what all of prs has said.

I agree why 10... Why even reload at all? Why not just belt feed it? Why not a drum?

If they want a mag change it should be specified in the stage description

And AI should have 12 and 15 rounders
If you happen across a large pack of guilty animals , it would be nice not to have to change Mags.

You should have been carrying a semi but that is irregardless

 

[FUNCTIONAL]

Been running matches for 9 or 10 years now. 12rd stages were put in place to force mag changes. Then people got mag extensions and dssf 12rd mags, etc. Now my range every now and then requires mag change when moving positions. If you just bumped the number up you'll have some weirdo like above with a drum mag.

What started pissing me off more was when prs said you can't lose points on a stage and killed the spirit of stages like know your limit or a complicated target package with a negative point for each wrong target shot (still couldn't score less than zero). You took 90% of the mental side of a match right out of it and just made it into target shooting. That and the mandate "every stage has to be cleanable"... what bs... again no thinking "hey maybe I'll just take my time and good hits or I can blow through that position because the final one is more stable OR I could be an idiot and rush everything and suck" (on a stage designed to be too long to finish in time). Again... no thought to a stage anymore.

 

[DKN83]

Guys i need help. Could anyone post a picture of their AWSM side panels of the grip? Inside aswell. I wanted to cut them to fit, while dry fitting i noticed it wont work by cutting the way i have seen it on pictures.

The whole "edge" is still in the way of the goddamn monopod i dont use anyways. Were there different models? Thought only the front panels were different. This sucks big time.

 

[diggler1833]

I think they should do stages with an empty mag and you have to single feed. That way I can see 2K pics of guys with weighted quivers running the lengths of their chassis.

 

[xxflyingturtlexx]

I'm not arguing that things can't progress.... You will get a 16+rd aics pattern mags when md start doing 15+ round stages on the reg .... I'm not scorning the mfg they are filling an obvious demand.

Pretty sure I made 0 assumptions or comments as to your abilities home skillet nor did I make any comparisons to my own

I am merely providing free commentary on a sat night to something I find comical about the competitive shooting world. It's not the first time and won't be the last

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My man loves him some weights

 

[xxflyingturtlexx]

If they want a mag change it should be specified in the stage description

And AI should have 12 and 15 rounders
If you happen across a large pack of guilty animals , it would be nice not to have to change Mags.

You should have been carrying a semi but that is irregardless

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That screams “i shoot at pigs at night but low key trying to contact aliens”.

 

[diggler1833]

If they want a mag change it should be specified in the stage description

And AI should have 12 and 15 rounders
If you happen across a large pack of guilty animals , it would be nice not to have to change Mags.

You should have been carrying a semi but that is irregardless

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1) That picture looks expensive.
2) If you spend all your money on AI shit, and feel so guilty for stacking bodies at night with a $2K home-built semi... that you take the AI out instead...that's your own fault.

FWIW I'd probably do the same, but my wife won't buy me another AI until at least 2025 . I guess there is a limit to #teamtrophyhusbands

 

[DKN83]

Guess the forend is short action? That might explain the back not fitting aswell...?

 

[HKSniper11B]

Since they were asked for -- particularly from @xxflyingturtlexx -- I went down a rabbit hole a few weeks ago studying the Accuracy International Bundeswehr G22A2. I had thought it simply a Pale Brown AXMC for years. I was corrected by a friend in France who then sent me down a rabbit hole of studies on the rifle. These are some of the high resolution photos I've been able to collect on my rifle. Photo credits go directly to the Bundeswehr and to DVIDS.

When the contract was started, upgrades to the original G22 was found to be the most economic. They took the upper receiver, barrels, and actions from the G22 which is chambered in .300WM, and essentially mated them to the AXMC chassis, furnishing them into a complete weapon systems package. All G22A2s are marked with the original G22 date codes and still say "SM" on the side of the receivers. They are not quick-changeable barrels, as you note there is no retention bolt on the side of the receiver.

The scope mount used is a 30 MOA EraTac, as the rail system itself is 0MOA. Scope itself is a Steiner M5Xi 5-25x56mm MTC LT LPF with a Tremor3 Reticle.

Note the strap across the top: the Bundeswehr are known for using these profusely to mitigate mirage, just like the old AWs.

And my favorite photo. The original is too high resolution to upload, so this is the smaller version.

 

[37L1]

1) That picture looks expensive.
2) If you spend all your money on AI shit, and feel so guilty for stacking bodies at night with a $2K home-built semi... that you take the AI out instead...that's your own fault.

FWIW I'd probably do the same, but my wife won't buy me another AI until at least 2025 . I guess there is a limit to #teamtrophyhusbands

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Maybe if you bitched, nagged, whined and put out a little more. . . .

 

[diggler1833]

Maybe if you bitched, nagged, whined and put out a little more. . . .

I got a bunch of pig blood on my pants and left them in the washing machine for her the other night. It'll be another few days before I'm not "gross" anymore...

I'm a dude, so I've already tried to see if she was receptive 12 or 13 times this morning...

 

[xxflyingturtlexx]

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And my favorite photo. The original is too high resolution to upload, so this is the smaller version.

Thanks for the drop appreciate it

 

[Brad Chris]

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And my favorite photo. The original is too high resolution to upload, so this is the smaller version.

Germany?

 

[xxflyingturtlexx]

Germany?

Yes

 

[Brad Chris]

Yes

Yeah my bad, I was only going off the first picture and then I realized there was shit shit tons more of ur pics in Feldanzug. I did a rotation with you guys several years back

 

[JackOfAllTrades]

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Thank you, I was going to go post mine

 

[JR1200W3]

Pretty sure I made 0 assumptions or comments as to your abilities home skillet nor did I make any comparisons to my own

I am merely providing free commentary on a sat night to something I find comical about the competitive shooting world. It's not the first time and won't be the last

No worries dude. I was loading blammo and drinking beers last night. Didn't mean for it to sound so feisty. Guess I just don't understand your perspective on the mag thing, but that's okay. I don't put a lot of stock in PRS stages and some of the shit MDs do; I think a lot of it is ignorant. But the mag capacity thing as an issue just puzzles me. And I guess I'll just continue to be puzzled by it. Different strokes and stuff. We all see things different sometimes.

 

[chrisollis]

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There will be more content showcasing this rifle at the_bad_vibe_tribe instagram page and Bad Vibe Tribe YouTube in the coming months.

Yo how’d you get the lefty!?!

 

[81sfo]

AT-X Gen3 Folder, Chopped Forend ,16.5" 6.5cm , Deadair Sandman S. NF Atacr 4-20 ,

 

[Defender3]

I’m gone for a week scoping out the rocket engine test stands at Stennis Space Center only to return to find out I really need to be shooting an AI in 308 and have mags with at least 15rds, oh the horror.

B1 & B2 test stands – 350’ tall and as much under as showing – Built in three years for the Apollo program and originally rated for 12 million pounds of thrust (“launching” an engine off a test stand would be a bad day). Still used today for the Artemis program and others, but smaller engines are tested on other stands on the complex. At the baggage counter in New Orleans I ran into a surgeon checking his rifle (28 Nosler) and on his way to Alaska for a Grizzly hunt. Apparently, he’s doing the North American Super Slam. /funfacts off

I was having pressure issues with a 300PRC Mod BB 5R I bought off the exchange (2975fps+ for factory Hornady 225s, primers backing out and the shoulders blowing out to 2.1280 when my other AI barrels are at 2.1240) so, I had Fritz at BCC spin me up a 300PR barrel using the JGS AW2 reamer (relieves a bit at the .200 line so the brass can be full length resized). I took it out yesterday to get a 100yd zero and velocities with factory H225s and Berger 245s and offsets for each and with the TBAC Ultra SR. And I have to say, the Ryobi tire inflater / barrel cooler is one of the better ideas I’ve pirated from the web.

 

[Kopfjager1]

Question though, who here wishes not to have more rounds?

I can honestly say I rarely wanted fewer rounds, except in certain circumstances during a stage with low clearance, and my 14-round SAW nutsack became an issue.

 

[FUNCTIONAL]

Question though, who here wishes not to have more rounds?

I can honestly say I rarely wanted fewer rounds, except in certain circumstances during a stage with low clearance, and my 14-round SAW nutsack became an issue.

I like the AW mags because they are compact. I really don't care for larger ones. Maybe 12 but I'd rather not add more length. To me that's one of the benefits of AW.

 

[Batemanb12]

Good day to be at the range.

 

[hafejd30]

Finally got to rock the new 2014 AT today compliments of @TheBigCountry

Manzella 28” 260 Rem
142 SMK
H4350 at 42.5 grains
Lapua Brass
CCI 200 primer

Moving about 2830 fps. I’ll get more serious numbers when I load develop on the fired brass later

Just some 100 yard groups to sight in then fire form brass in the future

For those curious there’s Zero primer cratering with this setup with a large firing pin bolt at this charge. I actually did the initial load development with this barrel on my 2022 ATX and a small firing pin bolt

For today I just through the barrel on this AT and shot the same ammo with this guns factory lfp bolt

First shot way high right to get zeroed. The next 5 went into a .4” group you could cover with a dime. Then 4 shot group with the remaining rounds in the mag. I pulled the one right of the orange after moving position. Stacked the remaining 3 inside 1/4”

The other bolt is currently at black canyon being converted to a magnum head. Got the 7 round mag today and 300 WSM Lapua brass on the way. Excited for this rifles journey

I will say I hate shooting at 100. My eyes are always screwing with me. Load development will be at 300 yards as I usually do in the future

Rocking the 338 Ultra SR

 

[TheBigCountry]

Finally got to rock the new 2014 AT today compliments of @TheBigCountry

Manzella 28” 260 Rem
142 SMK
H4350 at 42.5 grains
Lapua Brass
CCI 200 primer

Moving about 2830 fps. I’ll get more serious numbers when I load develop on the fired brass later

Just some 100 yard groups to sight in then fire form brass in the future

For those curious there’s Zero primer cratering with this setup with a large firing pin bolt at this charge. I actually did the initial load development with this barrel on my 2022 ATX and a small firing pin bolt

For today I just through the barrel on this AT and shot the same ammo with this guns factory lfp bolt

First shot way high right to get zeroed. The next 5 went into a .4” group you could cover with a dime. Then 4 shot group with the remaining rounds in the mag. I pulled the one right of the orange after moving positions bit. Stacked the remaining 3 inside 1/4”

The other bolt is currently at black canyon being converted to magnum head. Got the 7 round mag today and 300 WSM Lapua brass on the way. Excited for this rifles journey

I will say I hate shooting at 100. My eyes are always screwing with me. Load development will be at 300 yards as I usually do in the future

Rocking the 338 Ultra SR
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Don’t make me jealous man

 

[HKSniper11B]

Finally got to rock the new 2014 AT today compliments of @TheBigCountry

Manzella 28” 260 Rem
142 SMK
H4350 at 42.5 grains
Lapua Brass
CCI 200 primer

Moving about 2830 fps. I’ll get more serious numbers when I load develop on the fired brass later

Just some 100 yard groups to sight in then fire form brass in the future

For those curious there’s Zero primer cratering with this setup with a large firing pin bolt at this charge. I actually did the initial load development with this barrel on my 2022 ATX and a small firing pin bolt

For today I just through the barrel on this AT and shot the same ammo with this guns factory lfp bolt

First shot way high right to get zeroed. The next 5 went into a .4” group you could cover with a dime. Then 4 shot group with the remaining rounds in the mag. I pulled the one right of the orange after moving position. Stacked the remaining 3 inside 1/4”

The other bolt is currently at black canyon being converted to a magnum head. Got the 7 round mag today and 300 WSM Lapua brass on the way. Excited for this rifles journey

I will say I hate shooting at 100. My eyes are always screwing with me. Load development will be at 300 yards as I usually do in the future

Rocking the 338 Ultra SR
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That's really well done. This is the kind of shit I'm here for

 

[hafejd30]

That's really well done. This is the kind of shit I'm here for

Thank you

I fired the first round which hit top right corner of the paper. Cant see it in those pics I don’t think

One adjustment and the next shot wiped the X out of the center of the bulleye.

The following two shots are basically through the same hole. Then I’m thinking I need a 5 shot group for any legitimacy here. So I mind fucked myself until my eyes fatigued trying to concentrate haha. The next round is the one lower right on the orange. 5th shot was basically in with the rest. But this is what I mean why I don’t shoot 100

I mind fucked myself when moving to next target. Then pulled one right. Once I pulled the shot I focused less and managed to just stack the last 3 on the second group.

When I shoot groups at 300 I shoot at these same orange targets. Only I put them on black paper. I make sure I’m zeroed off the orange before testing. Then while firing I cannot see my groups. I find my shots are more consistent because I have no idea if it’s a 1/4 moa or 3 moa group I’m shooting

 

[FUNCTIONAL]

@hafejd30 if I'm really trying to get the tightest group I can I'll adjust 1-2 mils in any direction so I can always have a clean aiming point and not get distracted by a group forming. Screws with your head a lot less

 

[HKSniper11B]

@hafejd30 if I'm really trying to get the tightest group I can I'll adjust 1-2 mils in any direction so I can always have a clean aiming point and not get distracted by a group forming. Screws with your head a lot less

This is how to do it.

 

[hafejd30]

@hafejd30 if I'm really trying to get the tightest group I can I'll adjust 1-2 mils in any direction so I can always have a clean aiming point and not get distracted by a group forming. Screws with your head a lot less

I do the same when load testing. But at 300 yards

This was zeroing the scope. I only planned to shoot a shot, adjust, then 3 more to confirm or make final adjustments.

Using the reticle to measure I can safely say the cold bore and following 3 shots are inside 1/2 moa. Probably closer to 1/4 moa which is nice to see

Once I saw the shooting I was doing I shot the rest of the magazine out.

If I shot 100 yard benchrest I think I’d leave every match with a headache from over concentrating and eye fatigue

I only shot this tonight because I sighed in my LMT MWS and had stuff set up already. Normally I shoot my LR stuff off a gravel road on our property. I find the flat road much more stable to shoot from vs my yard and down the hill into the swamp

 

[HKSniper11B]

I do the same when load testing. But at 300 yards

This was zeroing the scope. I only planned to shoot a shot, adjust, then 3 more to confirm or make final adjustments.

Using the reticle to measure I can safely say the cold bore and following 3 shots are inside 1/2 moa. Probably closer to 1/4 moa which is nice to see

Once I saw the shooting I was doing I shot the rest of the magazine out.

If I shot 100 yard benchrest I think I’d leave every match with a headache from over concentrating and eye fatigue

The strain is real

 

[TylerN]

And I have to say, the Ryobi tire inflater / barrel cooler is one of the better ideas I’ve pirated from the web.

Oh yeah, it blows real hard. I don't leave home without mine anymore.

 

[FUNCTIONAL]

I only shot this tonight because I sighed in my LMT MWS and had stuff set up already.

Thought I saw you creeping in the semi and lmt threads.... just men of culture over here. Picked my lmt up like 3 or 4 weeks ago. AT like you as well.

 

[Nik H]

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And my favorite photo. The original is too high resolution to upload, so this is the smaller version.

Could you send us the high-resolution version or a link to where it is?

 

[HKSniper11B]

Could you send us the high-resolution version or a link to where it is?

Its extremely close. Its still a 5k image either way. This one is just slightly smaller in storage size, 90% of the original. I don't have the links any longer, as these are from my personal photo collection at this point.

 

[Defender3]

Oh yeah, it blows real hard. I don't leave home without mine anymore.

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FWIW - I ordered some CPAP filters and adapters so I could filter the air flow; I didn't want to blow dust or sand into my barrel when I was shooting prone off the ground. The filter is already visibly darkening from the dust it's been catching from the Quantico ranges. I originally ordered one of these small air pumps, but it didn't put out enough air flow to cool a big barrel and suppressor, so I added more power. I cobbled together the adapters (because of the filter) and added a cut down case to fit the chamber. All credit to the person (I think in this thread) I stole this from.

Obligatory AI pic for the thread that was probably posted earlier:

 

[CollarChoke]

re: 308 boat anchors at distance ... I ran the 4 day K&M course with a 20" .308 on the AXSR slinging 175SMK pushing around 2550fps ... it got out to a 1000 just fine even when the AB numbers showed I was tickling through transsonic. I was the only 308 guy in the class and Shannon was like "I'll sell you this massive pile of 175SMK bullets we got laying around at a discount" which I happily took him up on.

Wind calls were definitely way more squirrely beyond 800 yards compared to what the 6mm pillow princesses had to deal with but no problem keeping up at all in Tennessee atmospherics at least, even through the PRS stage work.

Whenever I start feeling some kind of way about having thousands of rounds worth of 308 components in my reloading room and my 6-something barrels start looking too appealing, I like watching Robert Brantley running his 308 like a boss in these videos:

As an added advantage, shooting a bunch of 308 makes my 6ARC feel like a rimfire laser beam.

 

[JayjayUK]

I just got back from shooting the IPRF World Championships at Cameo, Colorado... what an amazing match!

I manged to get videos of a few stages and thankfully 2 of them were my better stages of the match before I lost zero...



No triggercam footage as wanted to concentrate more on shooting than content..

Also shot a mates 6.5mm Creed AT-X at a rock 1625m away... 1st round impact.

We then managed a 5th Round impact with my .308 straight after. 26mils and 5mil of wind

 

[wizardpc]

Who's gonna tell him.....

 

[FUNCTIONAL]

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Who's gonna tell him.....

Gunna be honest...I don't follow this one?

Did meet an mrad owner last weekend who wished he hit a AI instead.