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Are you sure magazine capacity restrictions is what you want to hitch your wagon to?
I don't think they should be restricted....I think people should learn to do mag changes... Why did 12 round stages come about? But I digressAre you sure magazine capacity restrictions is what you want to hitch your wagon to?
Because it helped big pharma…. I mean the big magazine companies to help with sales
Do you think you could beat me in a mag change during a 15 rd stage if you had a 10rd mag and I had a 15rd mag? Clearly, there's no way the fastest mag changer in the west can beat someone that doesn't have to change mags at all. I don't think anyone doesn't know how to change a mag. I just don't understand why 10 is the magic number. Why not ask or expect better? Why not 12 or 15 rounds in a mag? Why is 7 minute abs all fucked up but 6 minute abs is right?
Do you think 12 round stages just magically started happening because that's ideal number per stage lol
If the intent of the 15 round stage was to do a mag change and you brought a 17rd mag just to game it I mean I guess which is pretty much what all of prs has said.
I agree why 10... Why even reload at all? Why not just belt feed it? Why not a drum?
Where would you find a 17rd AICS mag? Or a bolt action AI rifle that takes belted ammo? You're speaking in hyperbole. It's not reasonable. But a 12 or 15 rd AICS mag is. I mean what if someone made a 20rd double stack, doublefeed SR25-type mag that allowed a 2.990" COAL in a AICS footprint that fits a R700 custom action or ATX? Would you scorn the manufacturer or would it be a step forward? Why would you resist forward progress? Do you think you are a more pure subscriber to fundamental skills than I am? Do you think you've dedicated more time to speed mag changes than I have in my life? I doubt it.
Sometimes material solutions outweigh training solutions. Yes training is important. But don't be stuck in the past. As far as why do PRS match directors do what they do, I don't think they know why. They do a lot of monkey see, monkey do shit. And contrived, made up shit. But as far as pushing past 10rd stages...why is every stage 10 rds? Why don't we shoot 20 rd stages? Or 30rs stages? Bring it big shifter.
I'm not arguing that things can't progress.... You will get a 16+rd aics pattern mags when md start doing 15+ round stages on the reg .... I'm not scorning the mfg they are filling an obvious demand.
Pretty sure I made 0 assumptions or comments as to your abilities home skillet nor did I make any comparisons to my own
I am merely providing free commentary on a sat night to something I find comical about the competitive shooting world. It's not the first time and won't be the last
66.6% of the scopes in this pic finished that match.
Truth.... the Schmidt died and took a year to get fixed
Bad sine wave vibrations from that weight stack man. Now you know
I know shoulda mounted em like the guy to my right did.
+1 to BCC. Just got my new 300PRC barrel that was done with the Alex Wheeler JGS AW2 reamer. I hope I can get it to the range today for zero and some break in.
ETA - 1/8 to handle the Berger 245s and Hornady 250 A-Tips. The stability calculator says I'm good at 1/9 but Fritz had this 1/8 in stock so it made sense and was quicker.
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If they want a mag change it should be specified in the stage description
And AI should have 12 and 15 rounders
If you happen across a large pack of guilty animals , it would be nice not to have to change Mags.
You should have been carrying a semi but that is irregardless
Been running matches for 9 or 10 years now. 12rd stages were put in place to force mag changes. Then people got mag extensions and dssf 12rd mags, etc. Now my range every now and then requires mag change when moving positions. If you just bumped the number up you'll have some weirdo like above with a drum mag.
What started pissing me off more was when prs said you can't lose points on a stage and killed the spirit of stages like know your limit or a complicated target package with a negative point for each wrong target shot (still couldn't score less than zero). You took 90% of the mental side of a match right out of it and just made it into target shooting. That and the mandate "every stage has to be cleanable"... what bs... again no thinking "hey maybe I'll just take my time and good hits or I can blow through that position because the final one is more stable OR I could be an idiot and rush everything and suck" (on a stage designed to be too long to finish in time). Again... no thought to a stage anymore.
What started pissing me off more was when prs said you can't lose points on a stage and killed the spirit of stages like know your limit or a complicated target package with a negative point for each wrong target shot (still couldn't score less than zero). You took 90% of the mental side of a match right out of it and just made it into target shooting. That and the mandate "every stage has to be cleanable"... what bs... again no thinking "hey maybe I'll just take my time and good hits or I can blow through that position because the final one is more stable OR I could be an idiot and rush everything and suck" (on a stage designed to be too long to finish in time). Again... no thought to a stage anymore.
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Guys i need help. Could anyone post a picture of their AWSM side panels of the grip? Inside aswell. I wanted to cut them to fit, while dry fitting i noticed it wont work by cutting the way i have seen it on pictures.
The whole "edge" is still in the way of the goddamn monopod i dont use anyways. Were there different models? Thought only the front panels were different. This sucks big time.
The whole "edge" is still in the way of the goddamn monopod i dont use anyways. Were there different models? Thought only the front panels were different. This sucks big time.
I think they should do stages with an empty mag and you have to single feed. That way I can see 2K pics of guys with weighted quivers running the lengths of their chassis.
That screams “i shoot at pigs at night but low key trying to contact aliens”.
1) That picture looks expensive.
2) If you spend all your money on AI shit, and feel so guilty for stacking bodies at night with a $2K home-built semi... that you take the AI out instead...that's your own fault.
FWIW I'd probably do the same, but my wife won't buy me another AI until at least 2025
. I guess there is a limit to #teamtrophyhusbands
Since they were asked for -- particularly from @xxflyingturtlexx -- I went down a rabbit hole a few weeks ago studying the Accuracy International Bundeswehr G22A2. I had thought it simply a Pale Brown AXMC for years. I was corrected by a friend in France who then sent me down a rabbit hole of studies on the rifle. These are some of the high resolution photos I've been able to collect on my rifle. Photo credits go directly to the Bundeswehr and to DVIDS.
When the contract was started, upgrades to the original G22 was found to be the most economic. They took the upper receiver, barrels, and actions from the G22 which is chambered in .300WM, and essentially mated them to the AXMC chassis, furnishing them into a complete weapon systems package. All G22A2s are marked with the original G22 date codes and still say "SM" on the side of the receivers. They are not quick-changeable barrels, as you note there is no retention bolt on the side of the receiver.
The scope mount used is a 30 MOA EraTac, as the rail system itself is 0MOA. Scope itself is a Steiner M5Xi 5-25x56mm MTC LT LPF with a Tremor3 Reticle.
Note the strap across the top: the Bundeswehr are known for using these profusely to mitigate mirage, just like the old AWs.
And my favorite photo. The original is too high resolution to upload, so this is the smaller version.
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Maybe if you bitched, nagged, whined and put out a little more. . . .1) That picture looks expensive.
2) If you spend all your money on AI shit, and feel so guilty for stacking bodies at night with a $2K home-built semi... that you take the AI out instead...that's your own fault.
FWIW I'd probably do the same, but my wife won't buy me another AI until at least 2025
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I got a bunch of pig blood on my pants and left them in the washing machine for her the other night. It'll be another few days before I'm not "gross" anymore...
I'm a dude, so I've already tried to see if she was receptive 12 or 13 times this morning...
Yeah my bad, I was only going off the first picture and then I realized there was shit shit tons more of ur pics in Feldanzug. I did a rotation with you guys several years back
No worries dude. I was loading blammo and drinking beers last night. Didn't mean for it to sound so feisty. Guess I just don't understand your perspective on the mag thing, but that's okay. I don't put a lot of stock in PRS stages and some of the shit MDs do; I think a lot of it is ignorant. But the mag capacity thing as an issue just puzzles me. And I guess I'll just continue to be puzzled by it. Different strokes and stuff. We all see things different sometimes.
AT-X Gen3 Folder, Chopped Forend ,16.5" 6.5cm , Deadair Sandman S. NF Atacr 4-20 ,
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I’m gone for a week scoping out the rocket engine test stands at Stennis Space Center only to return to find out I really need to be shooting an AI in 308 and have mags with at least 15rds, oh the horror.
B1 & B2 test stands – 350’ tall and as much under as showing – Built in three years for the Apollo program and originally rated for 12 million pounds of thrust (“launching” an engine off a test stand would be a bad day). Still used today for the Artemis program and others, but smaller engines are tested on other stands on the complex. At the baggage counter in New Orleans I ran into a surgeon checking his rifle (28 Nosler) and on his way to Alaska for a Grizzly hunt. Apparently, he’s doing the North American Super Slam. /funfacts off
I was having pressure issues with a 300PRC Mod BB 5R I bought off the exchange (2975fps+ for factory Hornady 225s, primers backing out and the shoulders blowing out to 2.1280 when my other AI barrels are at 2.1240) so, I had Fritz at BCC spin me up a 300PR barrel using the JGS AW2 reamer (relieves a bit at the .200 line so the brass can be full length resized). I took it out yesterday to get a 100yd zero and velocities with factory H225s and Berger 245s and offsets for each and with the TBAC Ultra SR. And I have to say, the Ryobi tire inflater / barrel cooler is one of the better ideas I’ve pirated from the web.
B1 & B2 test stands – 350’ tall and as much under as showing – Built in three years for the Apollo program and originally rated for 12 million pounds of thrust (“launching” an engine off a test stand would be a bad day). Still used today for the Artemis program and others, but smaller engines are tested on other stands on the complex. At the baggage counter in New Orleans I ran into a surgeon checking his rifle (28 Nosler) and on his way to Alaska for a Grizzly hunt. Apparently, he’s doing the North American Super Slam. /funfacts off
I was having pressure issues with a 300PRC Mod BB 5R I bought off the exchange (2975fps+ for factory Hornady 225s, primers backing out and the shoulders blowing out to 2.1280 when my other AI barrels are at 2.1240) so, I had Fritz at BCC spin me up a 300PR barrel using the JGS AW2 reamer (relieves a bit at the .200 line so the brass can be full length resized). I took it out yesterday to get a 100yd zero and velocities with factory H225s and Berger 245s and offsets for each and with the TBAC Ultra SR. And I have to say, the Ryobi tire inflater / barrel cooler is one of the better ideas I’ve pirated from the web.
I like the AW mags because they are compact. I really don't care for larger ones. Maybe 12 but I'd rather not add more length. To me that's one of the benefits of AW.
Finally got to rock the new 2014 AT today compliments of @TheBigCountry
Manzella 28” 260 Rem
142 SMK
H4350 at 42.5 grains
Lapua Brass
CCI 200 primer
Moving about 2830 fps. I’ll get more serious numbers when I load develop on the fired brass later
Just some 100 yard groups to sight in then fire form brass in the future
For those curious there’s Zero primer cratering with this setup with a large firing pin bolt at this charge. I actually did the initial load development with this barrel on my 2022 ATX and a small firing pin bolt
For today I just through the barrel on this AT and shot the same ammo with this guns factory lfp bolt
First shot way high right to get zeroed. The next 5 went into a .4” group you could cover with a dime. Then 4 shot group with the remaining rounds in the mag. I pulled the one right of the orange after moving position. Stacked the remaining 3 inside 1/4”
The other bolt is currently at black canyon being converted to a magnum head. Got the 7 round mag today and 300 WSM Lapua brass on the way. Excited for this rifles journey
I will say I hate shooting at 100. My eyes are always screwing with me. Load development will be at 300 yards as I usually do in the future
Rocking the 338 Ultra SR
Manzella 28” 260 Rem
142 SMK
H4350 at 42.5 grains
Lapua Brass
CCI 200 primer
Moving about 2830 fps. I’ll get more serious numbers when I load develop on the fired brass later
Just some 100 yard groups to sight in then fire form brass in the future
For those curious there’s Zero primer cratering with this setup with a large firing pin bolt at this charge. I actually did the initial load development with this barrel on my 2022 ATX and a small firing pin bolt
For today I just through the barrel on this AT and shot the same ammo with this guns factory lfp bolt
First shot way high right to get zeroed. The next 5 went into a .4” group you could cover with a dime. Then 4 shot group with the remaining rounds in the mag. I pulled the one right of the orange after moving position. Stacked the remaining 3 inside 1/4”
The other bolt is currently at black canyon being converted to a magnum head. Got the 7 round mag today and 300 WSM Lapua brass on the way. Excited for this rifles journey
I will say I hate shooting at 100. My eyes are always screwing with me. Load development will be at 300 yards as I usually do in the future
Rocking the 338 Ultra SR
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That's really well done. This is the kind of shit I'm here for
Thank youThat's really well done. This is the kind of shit I'm here for
I fired the first round which hit top right corner of the paper. Cant see it in those pics I don’t think
One adjustment and the next shot wiped the X out of the center of the bulleye.
The following two shots are basically through the same hole. Then I’m thinking I need a 5 shot group for any legitimacy here. So I mind fucked myself until my eyes fatigued trying to concentrate haha. The next round is the one lower right on the orange. 5th shot was basically in with the rest. But this is what I mean why I don’t shoot 100
I mind fucked myself when moving to next target. Then pulled one right. Once I pulled the shot I focused less and managed to just stack the last 3 on the second group.
When I shoot groups at 300 I shoot at these same orange targets. Only I put them on black paper. I make sure I’m zeroed off the orange before testing. Then while firing I cannot see my groups. I find my shots are more consistent because I have no idea if it’s a 1/4 moa or 3 moa group I’m shooting
@hafejd30 if I'm really trying to get the tightest group I can I'll adjust 1-2 mils in any direction so I can always have a clean aiming point and not get distracted by a group forming. Screws with your head a lot less
I do the same when load testing. But at 300 yards
This was zeroing the scope. I only planned to shoot a shot, adjust, then 3 more to confirm or make final adjustments.
Using the reticle to measure I can safely say the cold bore and following 3 shots are inside 1/2 moa. Probably closer to 1/4 moa which is nice to see
Once I saw the shooting I was doing I shot the rest of the magazine out.
If I shot 100 yard benchrest I think I’d leave every match with a headache from over concentrating and eye fatigue
I only shot this tonight because I sighed in my LMT MWS and had stuff set up already. Normally I shoot my LR stuff off a gravel road on our property. I find the flat road much more stable to shoot from vs my yard and down the hill into the swamp
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Oh yeah, it blows real hard. I don't leave home without mine anymore.And I have to say, the Ryobi tire inflater / barrel cooler is one of the better ideas I’ve pirated from the web.
Thought I saw you creeping in the semi and lmt threads.... just men of culture over here. Picked my lmt up like 3 or 4 weeks ago. AT like you as well.
Its extremely close. Its still a 5k image either way. This one is just slightly smaller in storage size, 90% of the original. I don't have the links any longer, as these are from my personal photo collection at this point.
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