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Coup De Grâce, New Action from American Rifle Company, $899 WOW!
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Forgive me for not reading through 1000 replies on this thread to see if this has been asked/answered- but this line in the original post got my attention.
Bolt lugs/receiver abutments are beefy enough to safely withstand the bolt thrust of the Lapua?
Is the bolt body "typical" .700 nominal?
Actually all that you have to do is read the page just before this one, page 19. Asked and answered.
Simply put, No, the bolt body is a larger diameter. He has posted great details and drawings showing this.
Inflection is sometimes hard to get across in posts. I didn’t intend to get on your case with that suggestion, only to encourage you or anyone else just now seeing this thread to glean some great info from Ted’s posts.
It would be really cool if there was a search feature where you could lookup things in a particular thread...
Quit making fake mock-ups of this site. All your base are belong to us.lol, yup. You mean like this?
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That really would be neat…
Where is the search meme option? Must have meme search.
But no exact number, or did I miss it? The number interests me. The Terminus Zeus started with a .750 diameter bolt but Joel scaled it back to .725 due to feed issues with some magazines (I think that was the reason). The Curtis still has a .750, but they have a 'proprietary magwell design' to address those feed issues.
Curious how Ted engineered it.
Yeah, fair enuf... guess it was more of being stunned that there's an action (soon) that'll be capable of handling the Lapua/Norma mags at near half the cost of the other players...no, hes designing a 338 pipe bomb.
come on, what do you think?
And this will be the second one from ARC. Mausingfield has been available with .588 bolt head for several years. Mausingfield is $1600 thoughYeah, fair enuf... guess it was more of being stunned that there's an action (soon) that'll be capable of handling the Lapua/Norma mags at near half the cost of the other players...
no, hes designing a 338 pipe bomb.
come on, what do you think?
Actually, it's a legit question that comes up quite often when the talk turns to using a Rem 700 action for .585 boltface cartridges, with some very smart gunsmiths disagreeing on if it is a good idea. There are smiths that won't build 338 cartridges on the Rem 700 platform, and one I know of that decided not to use the Mausingfield. Not saying Ted's stuff is your 'standard' rem 700 clone though at all.
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It was supposed to be but we didn't get to it. Maybe tomorrow. We're screwing around with some editing software. Not sure why. An edited video from us would be a first.
Ted
I’ll tell ya the why….. because Johnny Dangerously is really Johnny Kelly, brother of the DA Tommy Kelly!
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Dayum! It’s been years since I saw Jackie Dundee, Danny Vermin, Roman Maroney, and Johnny D.
The unpolished one take is so ARC though.
This is awesome news for those of us that prefer a rested thumb VS a wrapped thumb, then lever the swept bolt handle with the thumb moving up a little to the receiver and our index finger knuckle rather than a cantilevered fingertip to work the bolt! All my AIs, SSG3000 and T3s+Sterk = swept = money!
Query though Ted:
Are you saying you will facilitate the bolt handle bending then heat treat inhouse, or not heat treat and leave the bending then heat treat to us?
I know it's an extra evolution for you however I'd absolutely prefer to utilize your expertise!
The bolt knob is dealer's choice being threaded. CDG being an ARC masterclass I'd leave it as a functional, brand recognition/maker's mark.
Also prefer bolt flutes vs plain jane. Leave that up to the Boss.
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If they sell the action only. I would.
I spoke with them at shot and they said they would for same introductory price as arc
So excited for this video to come out! Hope these are fairly easily accessible in the UK at some point 
I would never in a million years leave heat treatment up to a customer.
He’s talking about the handle only, which is separate from the bolt body and bolt head.
That's going to still be open to interpretation. Small/normal shank + 338 and such typically equals stretched brass. There won't be an extraction issue with this action that is typically there due to the design (unless the rim gives way).
However, the condition of the stretched brass may or may not be what some consider "safe" for continued use after. Regardless the material and design of action, you don't want to be messing around with any higher than normal chances of having to test the action and such against the pressure of a case failure.
Yup, aaand I'm not talking about considering a dodgy back yard/garage job either. I'll have to find a qualified blacksmith for that!
Patiently waiting out for what Ted has planned.
Are bolt handles even heat treated? Even if they are, it's unlikely that they'd need to be so strong as to need to be left brittle. So, they could perhaps be bent by the end user in their heat treated state.
i love the idea of used customized bolt handle but we know its going to be a disaster...just look at some of the posts on the hide about advice when there is a stuck case or mounting a scope.
ill bet money that someone will try and bend the bolt handle while its still in the bolt body or action and F up the whole works
they'll call ted and he'll deal with the idiocy
then they will sell the action on the PX when they want a change and the new guy will try and bend it again..really f'ing it up..
"i dont know what happened it was never bent before, it was like new when i got it" etc
ted will "make it right" while costing him time and money years after the action in sold
ill bet money that someone will try and bend the bolt handle while its still in the bolt body or action and F up the whole works
they'll call ted and he'll deal with the idiocy
then they will sell the action on the PX when they want a change and the new guy will try and bend it again..really f'ing it up..
"i dont know what happened it was never bent before, it was like new when i got it" etc
ted will "make it right" while costing him time and money years after the action in sold
when would the answer ever be "NO" our action designed for 338LM will not be able to handle a 338LM?
Sounds like a great value. WTH is up with slathering "Coup De Grace" across the receiver? From a marketing aspect, seems awful. But hey, they can do as they wish.
All of their actions have that little cutout with the name machined into it, not exclusive to this action
After reading this thread I'm absolutely going to buy one. Would look nice sitting in a MPA Matrix Pro Chassis. Hopefully there shouldn't be any interferences between this action and that chassis.
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