It’s got a certain strike industries tchotchke flair to it. Ted what is the bolt lift going to feel like?What's wrong with the bolt ano? I like it.
Ted
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It’s got a certain strike industries tchotchke flair to it. Ted what is the bolt lift going to feel like?What's wrong with the bolt ano? I like it.
Ted
Thanks for that. Conical breeches are definitely awesome for smooth feeding but not always necessary if the bullet tip finds the hole. The Coup has a 6 o'clock lug that effectively strips the cartridge from the mag. That lug needs to pass through a 6 o'clock slot in the receiver. The bullet tips of small cartridges will not get high enough to find the chamber and require the conical breech. The 300 Norma and 338 Lapua Mags find the hole and can be run with a flat breech. The pics below tell the tale, sort of.I really like conical breeches.
Not to derail, but the BR guys mostly use conical because it really helps that PPC round to go quickly into the chamber without a hiccup.
I bought a Kauger action last year to build a 6-BR and it feeds like greased goose shit on glass. In fact, it works very well with 5 round P-mags.
I highly recommend conical.
Did I mention I like them too?
Impatiently waiting on a Long Action...
Working on bolt lift. Want to publish numbers as soon as I can.It’s got a certain strike industries tchotchke flair to it. Ted what is the bolt lift going to feel like?
Color isn't for me. I like my action to be all black. Same reason I would find it hard to buy a Burris XTR PRO.What's wrong with the bolt ano? I like it.
Ted
*Veruca Salt?I'm with you, but I'll have to wait on the long action. Exactly as pictured in post #1.
That 7 Mag barrel is almost gone and it needs to be replaced. Might as well build a completely new rifle.
I feel like Baruka in Charlie and the chocolate factory.
I WANT IT NOW!!!!
Already have all black knobs so we've got you covered.Color isn't for me. I like my action to be all black. Same reason I would find it hard to buy a Burris XTR PRO.
That's great. Nice one.Someone just pulled a pin on a grenade and casually tossed it in the door of the competition and walked away with a giant smile on their face.
The general purpose bolt action that works with everything is a tricky if not impossible problem. I wish someone would order many thousands of these in one caliber. So much easier...Yep, that cartridge centerline on the smaller cartridge needs help.
The magnum centerline is already above the bottom of the chamber.
223s, Grendel, 6-ARC and BR variants really can use all the help they can get to make sure the bullet tip is pointing in the right direction to prevent it from running into the flat back side of the barrel.
I learned this lesson a long time ago with a Cooper Model 21 in 17 Mach IV.
The only way it would feed was super, super slow. It went back to Cooper and they put a very small radius (cone) on the breech end. Haven't had a hiccup since then.
*Veruca Salt?
I do believe that is her name...
And then woke up at 0400 to answer the world’s questions the next day. LegendSomeone just pulled a pin on a grenade and casually tossed it in the door of the competition and walked away with a giant smile on their face.
Proof’s stainless barrels are offered in essentially one contour: competition. When you see ARC actions dominating the comp circuit you’ll see Proof prefits.I’m loving the red, I have 3 Burris pros which look like they just need to have one of these to be mounted on to look right .
Thank you Ted for clarifying the tighter tolerance on the bolt to body clearance. Never had issues with my Archimedes but didn’t personally like the “feel”
Also, really need to figure a way to get proof on board with prefits. I know there are plenty of other smiths that can turn barrels but with proof being hundreds of dollars cheaper and on the shelf it’s very hard to beat. This is the other reason I sold my Archimedes.
Falkor is not dominating comps and they have prefits. Same with Daniel defense, ruger and some others.Proof’s stainless barrels are offered in essentially one contour: competition. When you see ARC actions dominating the comp circuit you’ll see Proof prefits.
Ruger is an easily purchaseable gateway gun. Perhaps my initial assessment was incorrect.Falkor is not dominating comps and they have prefits. Same with Daniel defense, ruger and some others.
I’m not sure exactly what the criteria is that proof used to decide who they are making prefits for but would really help sell these.
We'll reach out to Proof soon. The more people stocking pre-fits, the better. It's great to be living through the heyday of gun making on earth. It's never been this good for gun buyers, ever. People all over the world love guns.I’m loving the red, I have 3 Burris pros which look like they just need to have one of these to be mounted on to look right .
Thank you Ted for clarifying the tighter tolerance on the bolt to body clearance. Never had issues with my Archimedes but didn’t personally like the “feel”
Also, really need to figure a way to get proof on board with prefits. I know there are plenty of other smiths that can turn barrels but with proof being hundreds of dollars cheaper and on the shelf it’s very hard to beat. This is the other reason I sold my Archimedes.
I don't think having them coned will be as simple as you think. Headspace is close to same, 0.825 vs 0.827, however the flat breech is 0.675 long from barrel shoulder and the beginning of the coned breech looks much closer to the bolt nose on the new action.I'm waiting for some videos on the new actions. I love the option for the lapua bolt face. So tempting for a 300 norma mag. I have a nucleus with like 5 barrels I guess could have them coned for this action
As long as the Nuke 2.0 isn't discontinued, the bolt head, extractor, rail, are compatible with the Archimedes. The striker spring isn't on the website though. Nuke 1.0 parts are still available on the website so I'm guessing support will be good.To circle back, since you're discontinuing the Archimedes, what's the support going to be like on legacy actions? Parts like extractors, springs and bolt heads?
Proof’s stainless barrels are offered in essentially one contour: competition. When you see ARC actions dominating the comp circuit you’ll see Proof prefits.
Yeah you missed the guy who said exactly that and my response. Catch up. At least 4 of those manufacturers are mainstays in bolt/long range, don’t be a bitch.Haven't kept up on Comps but guess these are the guys dominating them now.
Tikka
Savage
Accuracy International
Falcor
Barrett MRAD
Q Fix
Blaser R8
Ruger RPR
Or Proof must be using some other criteria for deciding who to make prefits for.
Every action past like 2017 has the same spec.From my understanding ARC has had a few revisions or barrel specs in the past???? I could be wrong.
Proof’s stainless barrels are offered in essentially one contour: competition. When you see ARC actions dominating the comp circuit you’ll see Proof prefits.
I suspect that Ted will find it much easier to reach out to Proof once he has evidence (proof if you will) of how many have been sold in the presale.We'll reach out to Proof soon. The more people stocking pre-fits, the better. It's great to be living through the heyday of gun making on earth. It's never been this good for gun buyers, ever. People all over the world love guns.
Based upon his answers and screen shots above, I’d say yes, though the 7mm would probably feed better with a cone.Would you be able to run a flat breach face for long action magnums like 300prc or 7mm rem mag out of aics mags or would those still require the conical breach face?
I think so. See pic below. But again, cone breeches are a good thing and not hard to get.Would you be able to run a flat breach face for long action magnums like 300prc or 7mm rem mag out of aics mags or would those still require the conical breach face?
I welcome criticism, in fact I want it because it drives design, but please keep it accurate. No Nucleus was ever prone to binding. It is true that there was lots of clearance between the bolt and the receiver, but that clearance never caused binding and it was there by design to tolerate filthy conditions. Binding is only caused by tightly coupled opposing forces and the distance between these forces does not appreciably decrease by an increase of one or two degrees in bolt yaw or pitch with respect to the receiver.I wonder how this will feel compared
To the Gen I nucleus. The one I had was not impressive whatsoever. It was sloppy, would bind easy, bolt lift wasn’t that great.
Hopefully this is a whole different design and puts it in another league
As I stated earlier, cases are surprisingly strong but I also acknowledge that case head separation do happen but almost never with new brass unless the barrel work is really really bad or the case is defective in a big way.@karagias,
I've turned into a long throated 223 fan as well as many others. Some of other action manufacturers seem to treat the 223 as an after thought and seem to have issues from time to time. Just wondering do you do much testing with feeding and ejection in 223 with your new designs?
I waited for a long time(BF 2022) to pick up your Nucleus just to see if people have issues with it in 223 and most seem to like it. One of the major reasons I got your Nucleus was that the bolt nose it so short(.115" +/-) it allows almost the entire case body to be supported while others with .150" make me nervous.
I think we have enough parts to support it.To circle back, since you're discontinuing the Archimedes, what's the support going to be like on legacy actions? Parts like extractors, springs and bolt heads?
If you decide to sell your model T for a discount too, let me know.Guess I'll go list my Archimedes for sale at a discount now.