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Coup De Grâce, New Action from American Rifle Company, $899 WOW!
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In an age where people try to get more for less...wouldn't being defiant of that be what defiance is doing? 
Defiance of their consumers.
Defiance of their consumers.
I hate this forum. It just cost me another $900.
Oh it's going to cost you a lot more than that before it's done. lol
You didn’t get another bolt head or already order a barrel?
So you forgot to buy the action wrench with it
I'm not finding that gauge ball, see the small one, any help appreciated. I know it's probably something stupid I'm doing, or not doing.
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Mucho GarciasDirect link to the 1.25 ball.McMaster-Carr
McMaster-Carr is the complete source for your plant with over 595,000 products. 98% of products ordered ship from stock and deliver same or next day.www.mcmaster.com
Just a FYI for you guys looking for mags. Cheapest I've found them, and are back in stock.
I found some here. In stock, fast shipping. I was very impressed with this guys.Just a FYI for you guys looking for mags. Cheapest I've found them, and are back in stock.
AI AW 10 Round Magazine .308 - Short Action Precision
ONLY FOR ACTIONS CUT FOR AW DOUBLE STACK MAGS! Double stack magazine Manufactured from military grade steel Surface toughened and finished with a multi part anti corrosive, anti friction coating Springs and risers removable for cleaning For all .308 cartridge based calibers Compatible with AICS...
Short Action Precison—Nate and Rich are awesome guys.
They shoot matches and support a lot of events. I try to support them when I can.
Fast ship, no hassle kind of business!
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They shoot matches and support a lot of events. I try to support them when I can.
Fast ship, no hassle kind of business!
ZY
So I did the math, I'm building a lightweight hunter build. 20 inch 6.5 Bartlein 3B contour, HNT chassis (
) MK5 5-25 and a tbac magnus and bipod. Around 11.4 lbs.
) MK5 5-25 and a tbac magnus and bipod. Around 11.4 lbs.
I found some here. In stock, fast shipping. I was very impressed with this guys.
AI AW 10 Round Magazine .308 - Short Action Precision
ONLY FOR ACTIONS CUT FOR AW DOUBLE STACK MAGS! Double stack magazine Manufactured from military grade steel Surface toughened and finished with a multi part anti corrosive, anti friction coating Springs and risers removable for cleaning For all .308 cartridge based calibers Compatible with AICS...www.shortactionprecision.com
Short Action Precision also carries the 223 AICS magazines. An order over $300.00 gets free shipping. My order shipped priority mail overnight. Depending on you state, there may be no sales tax.
Great plains guns inc. their email is [email protected]
They do real good work. I trust them with my project.
Barrel Interface Drawing Error
Gratitude goes out to tstevens who brought an error to my attention. The calculation for the ball measurement should be 2.0217 - .2887 x DimA, and not 2.0217 + .2887 x DimA. I carelessly made the dreaded sign error.
This is just another reason why I love the Hide. You guys are on top of it. Thanks again to tstevens.
Revised drawing is attached and it will be up on the website within the hour.
Ted
Gratitude goes out to tstevens who brought an error to my attention. The calculation for the ball measurement should be 2.0217 - .2887 x DimA, and not 2.0217 + .2887 x DimA. I carelessly made the dreaded sign error.
This is just another reason why I love the Hide. You guys are on top of it. Thanks again to tstevens.
Revised drawing is attached and it will be up on the website within the hour.
Ted
I saw those, and I'm sure they're great guys, but they aren't great enough for me to pay them an extra 18.35 per mag. (That includes the mil discount from Area419)I found some here. In stock, fast shipping. I was very impressed with this guys.
AI AW 10 Round Magazine .308 - Short Action Precision
ONLY FOR ACTIONS CUT FOR AW DOUBLE STACK MAGS! Double stack magazine Manufactured from military grade steel Surface toughened and finished with a multi part anti corrosive, anti friction coating Springs and risers removable for cleaning For all .308 cartridge based calibers Compatible with AICS...
Ted, I've been casually musing on the tenon print, thanks for sharing it with the world! I was just curious, is it accurate to say that the ball gauge is used because it can serve as a reasonable approximation of a 30-degree cone at typical case head diameters? I also assume you used it because it's a cheap, easily obtained part that provides a solid, repeatable, and tight-tolerance reference surface.
I'm not a machinist (I do have daydreams though), so forgive me if I'm asking silly questions. Thanks!
If im understanding your question, Rem700 style actions build the safety into the trigger mechanism not the action.
Pretty sure you read it right, and I'm just butting in, but I do think it would be cool to see would see some new ideas for integral action safeties on the 700.
What’s your definition of an integral action safety? Locking the striker assembly like a Mauser or something else?
Why fix a problem that doesn’t exist.
New ideas are cool since good ones grow what is possible. Would a change like your suggesting need a different trigger then? One of the current benifts to the design is the availability of tt, bix, timny ect triggers being widely available ffor builds or as backups.
Because some people like that the bolt locks on actions like the Winchester Model 70.
True but the aftermarket support for the Model 70 is near non existent compared to the Remington 700. The only three position safety I can think of for the 700 pattern is Defiance.
There is a possibility of designing a trigger to interface with the bolt in a way that locks it on safe but the bolt would have to have a slot milled into it to allow the lock. NULA used to have a trigger that did that and would allow the bolt to be opened on safe by pushing down on the safety to disengage the bolt lock.
To my knowledge they stopped doing it because their clients were primarily sheep hunters and weren’t loading the rifle until they found a ram anyway.
You can buy a $2500 Defiance with 3 position safety.
Got my dad one back when they were $1780 with the Triggertech Special as he wanted the 3 position safety. No way I’d pay $2500 for it now.
For the action it really is as simply as cutting a small notch in the bolt body for a bolt lock, it’s the trigger that is the hold up. Back when Ted came out the the M7 I asked about integrating the bolt lock into his actions but it was more a back burner idea for if he developed his own trigger since no option currently exists on the market and one would have to be made.
That being said as much as I like the bolt locks on my Model 70’s I just carry my ARC rifle slung across my chest to avoid the accidental bolt opening. I started that because I had a round ejected when my bolt caught my bag while walking with my Nuke.
Thinking something like the Krag Jorgensen or Mauser. Something to lock out the firing pin and keep the bolt from opening/closing. (Prevent losing rounds if bolt handle get snagged while rucking, etc) Could be integrated with trigger but could also just be separate. I can totally understand not overcomplicating things though so this is all just my imagination running wild. Though, as you just said, ideas are the start of how we get shiny new things.
And just to be clear. This thread is about the CDG, and it is awesome already. But since someone asked about it, it got my brain turning.
You can add a 3 Pos safety to your Rem 700 through aftermarket.
Here’s one:
Gentry 3-Position Safety | Gentry Custom
Gentry Custom is recognized as a leading gunsmith & custom rifle builder. We also offer installation of our popular 3-Position Safety. CALL: (406) 388-4867
gentrycustom.com
There are at least two other makers of such a thing.
Steyr Magazines are my most favorite magazine. I just wish there was more support for stocks/chassis for pro hunter magnum actions.
No, the ball doesn’t approximate the cone. The intersection (contact point) between the ball and cone is mathematically determinate for a fixed/known ball diameter and cone angle. That’s what allows an equation to be used to solve for depth.
Being involved in aerospace manufacturing, I deal with tooling balls on an almost daily basis, often with them sitting in conical nests. And much like ARC, we also typically order the tooling balls from McMaster-Carr, although sometimes from Carr-Lane. I think it's a truth in life that if McMaster-Carr doesn't stock something, it doesn't exist.
Got it, thanks. Took me a hot minute to build the geometry in my head with your explanation but it makes sense now, appreciate it.
Guessing by what’s leftover… 15rds in essentially a 10rd AICS height…? Damn
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