I like 22sI can’t imagine the amount of people asking for that would even remotely compare to the amount of people that would love the amazing ingenuity of bad assness that comes from arc being put into a 22lr action. Ted you should put your efforts there please. Just saying
Nope. Not too worried about that considering what happened to the receiver. I don't think there's a reason to add "recyclable" to the problem statement for designing bombs.
Yes. The Xylo's mag latch will keep the forward end of the mag close to the receiver.
Yeah when the receiver come completely apart all bets are off.
Might work. The rifle in the Vudoo both at Shot Show had a short action CDG with Hawkins bottom metal. Some material removal was necessary near the back end of the mag box because of an interference with the trigger hangers. We just need to make Andy aware of this and he'll have to decide whether or not to make the modification to his products. Mod is simple enough but may have implications for Andy that I am unaware of.
Glad someone asked this. That's the platform I intend to use with my next build
Based on Teds primer, He isn’t pushing the loads too bad. Certainly has more room to go before reaching pressure.If I were in your shoes, I wouldn't want to offer non-standard options to the masses either.
Too many people think that it's perfectly safe to go beyond the 62ksi loads in their Manbun.
The discussion about acceptable pressure vs excessive pressure happens monthly around here and some people just don't get it.
I've had the privilege to manufacture ammunition as a job. Along with that, I used pressure test barrels daily. If the average handloader could see just how quickly pressure builds and how quickly it goes from average safe loads, into proof loads, it would scare the shit out of them.
To get them to understand the amount of pressure needed to destroy an action would take a miracle.
For discussion purposes, and to educate those that aren't aware, most of the dual port actions are built to fire the 22 or 6mm PPC and the occasional 6mm or 30 BR cartridge.
Most of the shooters using the PPC are very meticulous. They use mostly N-133 for the PPC and to have a different powder around would be blasphemy.
The 30 BR shooters have mostly H-4198 or LT-30.
I've only ever seen a handful of BR shooters that had more than one powder around at a time.
Average Jo-Bob probably loads at home instead and has 20 different powders on his shelf. It's pretty easy to grab the wrong type if he's distracted or inebriated.
As a manufacturer, you can't control Jo-Bob or his buddies while they are trying to squeeze every single foot per second out of that Manbun or the PRC.
Come on man, it's only a little difficult to lift the bolt. And, and, and, the primer isn't completely flat yet...
It's just not worth it to offer the custom ports to Jo-Bob and Billy-Rae.
@karagias I'm gonna PM you.
That cases was intentionally cut to ensure that the case would not contain pressure. Our aim was to pressurize the receiver in order to see if it would blow apart. We're testing the mechanical properties of the receiver during these tests, its metallurgy essentially.Based on Teds primer, He isn’t pushing the loads too bad. Certainly has more room to go before reaching pressure.
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Not sure. The KRG Bravo video reveals a screw immediately behind the mag well which may interfere with the trigger hanger. If it does, an easy mod might be able to make it fit. Need to get one in here.
I had an impact in a bravo for a minute, you have to cut down the trigger guard bolt a bit for clearance, you can still get a bit in there to remove or install, but it needs taken down a bit. As to the Hawkins bottom metal, Andy offers a longer mag latch which is customizable for mag height. It'll take an aw mag no issues. Thats how lone peaks have been ran for some time.
Interesting.
Test coupons are one thing. Actual test articles are another and absolutely essential.
Thanks for the quick reply . I'll likely be buying a long action , not sure of that changes anything .
All chassis by krg other than the C4 require modification for hangers. Like Ted said it's not a hard modification.
i have done that once ... learnt a few valuable lessons
glad it was a cheap action when i did it (wasnt a ARC)
AIAW and AICS or equivalent mags will work. The AX mag will not work because of a lug that protrudes from its forward face. You can see the difference in the attached pictures.
I think the better way to get an answer on this is to ask Ted how significant the design challenges would be to make a "high pressure" action and how expensive the new action would have to be to make the financials work.
I'm interested in a 277 fury necked to 65 or 6mm lol 140 game changers at prc speed from a 473 case head sounds fun.
You missed it. It was discussed pretty early in the thread.
I did skim through Ted's posts but didn't remember that the "why" was discussed. I'll do my homework and go over it again. Thanks
Not sure if it was mentioned somewhere in the thread or not, but the big bolt also makes it possible to covert between a fixed handle and a pivot handle. Creates enough room for the pivot sleeve + extra spring in the bolt body. Bolt size likely contributes to solving the Archimedes bolt disassembly frustration.
Uh, no. It's never that simple. Literally millions of actions using bolt lug channels were made before the advent of wire EDM. Broaching is still highly productive and effective. One need only to look at Tikka or Savage to know that lug channels can be produced at very low cost in high volume production.
