Bolt release bracket does interfere but it's easily removed so it is a non-issue. It's the safety selector that will require me to remove material off the hanger IF I decide to keep it.
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I know. I didn’t really think to take a picture before I popped them because they were fairly unremarkable.
I’m bumping the shoulder .002”. Bolt falls on the case with the firing pin and extractor removed.
I’d check it again, excess headspace can show false pressure signs on the case head.
Considering some of the random rifles they get behind(Springfield waypoint for example). I would think they would get on board with arc.
Except Savage threaded barrels don't have the cone. Cone needed on 223 bolt face, sometimes needed on 308 family, not necessary on magnum and up. Go back and check post 152, 155, and 190.
For those that are curious and like to look at pictures...if they aren't already posted in here. The original extractor is black with a ball and longer spring. The updated extractor is silver with a tapered pin ( may not be oriented correctly in the photo .....I didn't look at YT vid prior to taking photo ) and shorter spring.
Picked up one of these for my first bolt action build. I was nervous about removing some metal and slightly modifying my existing chassis to make room for the trigger hanger. It was completely unnecessary, took maybe three minutes with the dremel and 1 $2.89 screw from the hardware store.
Custom rifles done have barrel nuts. Savage barrels don’t have coned breeches.
My love for this action has wained ever so slightly. I haven’t had to tinker this much with a custom action before. It’s not terrible I know but it’s getting ever so slightly annoying. First the trigger hanger, then I had to remove material from mdt’s shortest mag latch as well as my mpa adjustable mag latch, and now I’ve had to modify the new extractor because it interfered with the conical breach.
Yes they are all minor, it’s taken me about 2 hrs total for the mods, but it’s gotten to the annoying side of things. I really hope that’s the end of it and I forget about it once I get shooting it some more.
Here’s some pics of me fixing the extractor, it took a lot more removal than I expected.
Some sharpie, a file, and some buffing got it back to running smooth though!
There didn’t seem to be as much of a radius at the corner, and the whole ejector wasn’t as much radius as the original. As I removed the corner, more and more started contacting.
Yes they are all minor, it’s taken me about 2 hrs total for the mods, but it’s gotten to the annoying side of things. I really hope that’s the end of it and I forget about it once I get shooting it some more.
Here’s some pics of me fixing the extractor, it took a lot more removal than I expected.
Some sharpie, a file, and some buffing got it back to running smooth though!
There didn’t seem to be as much of a radius at the corner, and the whole ejector wasn’t as much radius as the original. As I removed the corner, more and more started contacting.
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It was a barrel put on by a very competent and well known gunsmith. He used a tool to make the conical breach as opposed to a cutter and compound angles I guess? Suppose to be better and more precise. Not a machinist so don’t know how this is accomplished. There was zero issue with the original extractor, the new one has a geometry that is slightly different. You can see it just looking real close. I have one of the earlier models so the trigger hangar hadn’t been revised yet so with a timney trigger it requires some removal.
Extremely common may be an overstatement. I haven’t had to do it on a tikka, origin, or lone peak in multiple chassis systems. I even had to remove material from the adjustable mag latch on an MPA. Ted says some adjustment may be required, so it’s not a huge deal, but everything combined is adding up to start being annoying is all. Still a great action!
My action is being barrelled up by GAP so hoping all i have to do is the trigger hanger. Getting a MPA matrix elite so hoping that since MPA is using there action should be easy fit.
Nah, it is extremely common.
Between the dozens of custom actions and chassis combos, AW and AICS mag setups Ive had - mag latch adjustment is needed probably 40% of the time at a guess?
Ive never had to remove material from an adjustable latch though - my CDG in the Matrix was fine.
Just be glad you're not left handed.
Try to find out how many left handed chassis there are. Very few and if there are they are in 700 only. I've got Tikkas.
Both chassis that I have I've had to left hand convert. Krg whiskey 3 just bolt handle cut out. For my t1x Mdt xrs I also had to cut out the area for the safety to go.
Don't have any 700 footprints but I've been following this thread since the beginning.
I have not had a custom action that didn't need to be fucked with between the ones I've had (Impact, Defiance, ARC, Zermatt). I have never bought a full custom rifle from a gunsmith, though.
I spun a PVA 6BR on a couple of weeks ago. Sitting at 247 rounds on it now. Not one issue running AW’s or MTD BR AICS’s. (MDT’s require a little mod)
Well spoken words sir,hats off to you,and the CDG looks like work of ART.
It IS a work of art. Just received my long action today. 473 bolt face and a 30moa rail.
My CDG came in today. Black, .473” bolt face. I ordered mid-November so that’s a sweet surprise when I was expecting their ETA to be a minimum expectation. It’s a beautiful action, this thing is a work of art, and my first time playing with AW mags tells me this was a good decision.
I'm having some ignition issues with lapua 300 Norma mag brass and CCi 250s.
I've heard that others may be having issues too? I'll keep doing what I can on my end but I was curious if this was common for either the CDG or lapua brass?
Virgin to once fired brass grows about .009-.010" CBTO so that's on my radar. Primers are seating about .008" below.
I've heard that others may be having issues too? I'll keep doing what I can on my end but I was curious if this was common for either the CDG or lapua brass?
Virgin to once fired brass grows about .009-.010" CBTO so that's on my radar. Primers are seating about .008" below.
I think that you need to review your headspace after that brass has all been fired once or twice. If your brass is growing that much, that is the prime suspect for your ignition problems, imo. But I think that you are already suspecting that to be the case.
Came here to say this. Honestly I like some of the stuff I see these days that has intentional "machine marks" left. Could be because I bought a mill and make my own shit too lol.
Yeah, the brass is .0065" short of the go gauge. The chamber is cut +.003".
The only reason I ask is because I was told second hand that someone else with an ARC was having this issue. Its not a knock on ARC or the CDG. Just trying to get all the info I can.
Can you jam bullets in to the lands to keep the brass against the bolt face? It might be good enough to get you through the first firing.
I had similar issues with 300 PRC with CCI 200s and ADG brass. I was originally seating the primers .010" below flush and had some failures to fire (15%) even with multiple attempts. I believe I was crushing the primers too much and they just wouldn't ignite. After disassembling the dud rounds I could see the primers did not ignite. I adjusted my seating depth to .004" and still had a few FTF, but they did fire on the second attempt. After I changed the seating depth to .007" I had no more failures. My experience prior to this was with CCI 450s which were not sensitive to seating depth at all so the issues with CCI 200s was unexpected, but in hindsight not all that surprising. Obviously you'll need to determine your optimal seating depth with your components.
Yep, I agree. Still can't wait to get mine, bet it'll look a bit different all dressed out. Any pictures out there "in the wild" yet?The CDG in light weight is sure ugly.
What some people consider pretty on a bolt action rifle amuses me. The again I've been accused of being .22 queer. I have at last count 17, .22 caliber flavors from .22 short to .22 Creed and I haven't kept one that wasn't a shooter.
what did you do to the AICS mags? receive the back so of the mag wall a little? love to see some pics. I have the same recipe as your pic. foundation with M5 metal and the stupid AICS mags are not loving life at all.
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