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For the Love of God, GI Joe and John Wayne.... cleaning and abrasive cleaners
- Thread starter Frank Green
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Oh I got you all nice and snared don't I? Knew you couldn't resist running this mother fucker into the ground. We'll hold hands, together! I bet you can't stop replying! LOLOLOLI'm sure you were civil and even tempered with WOM just as you are here, a true gentleman. He, obviously is the unreasonable one. I have to assume that because you said so.
It's possible that you just might be right for once.
I double dog dare you to not reply and keep this thing going.
How'd I do? Wouldn't want to disappoint. . .
So back on topic...
To respond to myself... highly effective for preventing corrosion/rust on raw steel, but I haven't seen much on use in bores or anything on reactivity w/ other chemicals. I did find this informal test on AS.
Norway discontinued the use of steel core ammo due to the increased copper and zinc particulate matter causing illness. From the paper I linked in #141:
Compared to the lead core ammo tested, the steel core ammo produced 3x to 4x the amount of copper and zinc mg/m^3. From Section 3.2:
I doubt a monolithic copper bullet would produce the same amount of fouling as the steel core, but it would certainly be more than a lead core.
Corrrosion-X is a modern cosmoline.
I used it on my last boat motor. A 2008 Yamaha 60hp.
After 13 years on salt water it still looked new under the cowling.
I wouldn't want to try and scrub it out of a barrel.
Okay, my work is done here.
Heading back to the pit for a bit.
Heading back to the pit for a bit.
So, the Tubbs final finish and Thorroclean arrive tomorrow. I'll get my shit together the next few days and report how the barnacle reduction goes. It'll be a separate post with all it's glory. LOL
Good to know, thanks.
I already thinly applied Corrosion-X to a carbon .22 bore. I didn't wipe it out before shooting SK Rifle Match (10 shot SD 5.1) & Long Range Match (10 shot SD 6.7). Velocities & accuracy were typical... probably not going to use it in any center fire bores, except for long term storage.
Mr. Green silently shakes his head. Guess you aren't too concerned about making it worse.
Why don't you just go get some lapping compound while you're at it?
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If you are serious about your court case, you should keep the barrel as it is for your evidence. Just buy another one and go shoot. You can always go crazy on that barrel after you go to court.
There is no getting worse. There's barnacles in it! 20rnds and its a copper nightmare.
I got pictures, it will have to do. I'll fight even if I can't win.Why don't you just go get some lapping compound while you're at it?
McMaster-Carr
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If you are serious about your court case, you should keep the barrel as it is for your evidence. Just buy another one and go shoot. You can always go crazy on that barrel after you go to court.
Anyway, it'll be an experiment. The why the barrel got wrecked is moot on the experiment. It's just moving forward on how to fix, if it can be.
Fix it…that’ll be the day. But have fun. Can’t hardly duck it up more. That barrel is toast.
Oh well my bad then. I thought it was 24 hours. Sorry, I just got that wrong. 45 min is a different situation.
An exercise in futility is my prediction. With my luck I'll squib load one and blow my face off! My luck is so bad, it could be raining tits and I'd look up and catch a dick.
Don't know how else to say it. It's the burnt charcoal buddy!@Frank Green - good question here. I too always thought of powder fowling being some shat of brown to tan and that the black stuff we see in the first part of our barrels is carbon.
Please confirm that I’m understanding you correctly and that it’s really powder residue.
Thanks as always for participating here with us. Priceless.
Not a great picture but you can see the inside of a brand new barrel looks just like the outside. Nice and shiny and silver in color.
I took a hunk of scrap barrel and chambered it with a 308 Obermeyer reamer and made a dummy round so when I go an teach classes they can see what a new throat looks like and a worn out one. Think I have this piece kicking around now for about 10 years but it gets the point across.
Opinions on using the chamber reamer in a T handle to slow spin/knock off the barnacles in the leade/throat/case neck area? Or would it just ruin a chamber reamer too?
I’ve done that once or twice to remove a stubborn carbon ring. It worked just ok so I don’t do that any more.
If this were the pit, no one would mind. But this is a technical thread. Keep it up, and you'll be taking a vacation.
Knock it off.
I'm actually curious to see how it goes. I've got a shot out barrel that I plan to run some of the Tubbs thru and do a before and after.
I wish the regular members would just ignore FredHammer, or whatever its name is.
Conducting the experiment will happen. Reporting the results is still up in the air.
I’m gonna go out on a limb here and suggest the mods warning to me might have been all encompassing for those who can’t have a technical discussion. Personal attacks I should think is included as well. Just a thought.
What's the warning? What am I doing that is just so terrible? Post my experiences in the shooting world? Something goes good or bad for me I'll post it. Simple enough. What I will do is fire back at the goblins & the haters. Because they are not kept in check on this site. Post like a decent person, I will reply the same. Post like a punk and I'll treat you as such.
It costs nothing to be nice.
Cleaning rods & bore guides have been beat to death on here... but this thread is about bore damage from abrasives, so I'll go ahead and bring it up again.
It seems that, with enough use, nylon-coated rods will always become impregnated with hardened carbon particles & damage the bore anytime your rod drags. Obviously a good bore guide will minimize this, but they won't prevent it. Wouldn't a polished stainless rod be superior to a coated rod, all other things being the same?
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After more searching, it looks like you commented on this a decade ago, Frank. I'm guessing this still holds true?
It seems that, with enough use, nylon-coated rods will always become impregnated with hardened carbon particles & damage the bore anytime your rod drags. Obviously a good bore guide will minimize this, but they won't prevent it. Wouldn't a polished stainless rod be superior to a coated rod, all other things being the same?
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After more searching, it looks like you commented on this a decade ago, Frank. I'm guessing this still holds true?
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Been using the same Dewey .30 rod for over 20 years and no issues. After each pass it gets a wipe with a rag so sure that helps.
Stainless steel trigger pin. No chemicals, no fouling. Clean pin. Accelerator after 5 mins.
After 12 mins:
After 25 min:
After 12 mins:
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Experiment still underway. 25 min into it.
It’s bubbling and foaming like my barrel did.
This pin had zero powder fouling, carbon, other chemicals on it.
Exact same result as your barrel.
My duplicate experiment is ongoing and still no change to the pin after 20 mins.
Your bottle is somehow different. It would be interesting to duplicate yours again with a new bottle of accelerator.
My duplicate experiment is ongoing and still no change to the pin after 20 mins.
Your bottle is somehow different. It would be interesting to duplicate yours again with a new bottle of accelerator.
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How bizarre!
I even asked Wipeout charlatan if the products can go bad/expire. He laughed and said “Never”.
I'll borescope my barrel that I left wipe out patch out in for over 24 hours. I usually let it sit over night without issue so we'll see how 24 treats the steel
Usually the first thing I do when I get home from a match(only shoot one day matches, 100ish rounds) is spray Wipe out patch out in my barrel and let it sit for about 3 hours and then patch it out. This normally cleans mine good enough, if not I repeat the next day. I’m on my second GT barrel and have had zero issues. Whatever is in that bottle that @FredHammer is using is almost acting like an acid.
I can't make out the date numbers on the bottle. I want to say I got it a year ago.
Well, I sures in shit won't be buying another Wipeout product for the rest of my life.
That looks almost like an acidic reaction. I wouldn’t want to be exposed to it or the fumes.
