Suppressors Form 4 wait time

[LeftyJason]

Dumb question. My first 5 tax stamps were old school Form 4 paper submissions. Just filed my 6th stamp 12.01.2023 but my first Efile. What the heck does "Certified" mean?

That is the modern equivalent of the check being cashed. It is when everyone starts counting from.

 

[FuhQ]

Dumb question. My first 5 tax stamps were old school Form 4 paper submissions. Just filed my 6th stamp 12.01.2023 but my first Efile. What the heck does "Certified" mean?

Like was said, it’s essentially the ATF saying, “Ok, we have officially received a copy of your eForm (and trust), and we are now “cashing your check” for the $200 stamp. So we’re now going to officially start processing your paperwork.” It is essentially “Day 1” of your wait time.

 

[AznTactical]

Like was said, it’s essentially the ATF saying, “Ok, we have officially received a copy of your eForm (and trust), and we are now “cashing your check” for the $200 stamp. So we’re now going to officially start processing your paperwork.” It is essentially “Day 1” of your wait time.

Ah I c. Gen Z lingo. Here it goes. Bet, certified 12.01.2023. I feel based with my boujee can. Hopefully the fed's don't get sus with my Trust Amendments. Can't wait for next year to yeet some.

 

[Longshot231]

Like was said, it’s essentially the ATF saying, “Ok, we have officially received a copy of your eForm (and trust), and we are now “cashing your check” for the $200 stamp. So we’re now going to officially start processing your paperwork.” It is essentially “Day 1” of your wait time.

Ah I c. Gen Z lingo. Here it goes. Bet, certified 12.01.2023. I feel based with my boujee can. Hopefully the fed's don't get sus with my Trust Amendments. Can't wait for next year to yeet some.

 

[Longshot231]

Ah I c. Gen Z lingo. Here it goes. Bet, certified 12.01.2023. I feel based with my boujee can. Hopefully the fed's don't get sus with my Trust Amendments. Can't wait for next year to yeet some.

 

[Necessary 3vil]

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Okay to cabinet took 365 days to say…

 

[joe777]

2nd can approved today 12/15/2023 with a certification date of 10/6/2023.

So you have had two approved that you submitted on 10/6, while the one I'm waiting on was "submitted/in process" on 10/2... weird

 

[FuhQ]

Ah I c. Gen Z lingo. Here it goes. Bet, certified 12.01.2023. I feel based with my boujee can. Hopefully the fed's don't get sus with my Trust Amendments. Can't wait for next year to yeet some.

I don't understand anything you said, nor am I from Gen-Z...

 

[FOS373]

So you have had two approved that you submitted on 10/6, while the one I'm waiting on was "submitted/in process" on 10/2... weird

Trust me; I was very surprised they were approved that quick as well and thought it was weird too. But I’ll take it. Had another that took two years from date of purchase to approval due to a bunch of screw ups on dealers’ part

 

[Jcarpenter223]

I dunno if trusts are slower nowadays...in the past they have been for me....so called ss and told them to switch that mfker to individual before sending over docs to sign. Last can was 13 months...eff that. I'd be stoked if it was 3 or 4 mo

 

[30calDeath]

I don't understand anything you said, nor am I from Gen-Z...

How old are you? I'm gonna be 44 and understand almost everything lol

 

[FuhQ]

How old are you? I'm gonna be 44 and understand almost everything lol

37, and have no clue what he said other than the "yeet" thing, only because I hear it used ironically (to mock Gen-Z) in the occasional YouTube video.

 

[LeftyJason]

37, and have no clue what he said other than the "yeet" thing, only because I hear it used ironically (to mock Gen-Z) in the occasional YouTube video.

Gen xers with a gen z daughter. Somewhat funny. They don't have everything.

 

[dm250]

I hears from my local dealer that customers that were submit multiple form 4’s at the same time were getting them back much quicker then single item applications.

Is there any truth to this or is it just a luck of the draw thing?

 

[Bluedog82]

I hears from my local dealer that customers that were submit multiple form 4’s at the same time were getting them back much quicker then single item applications.

Is there any truth to this or is it just a luck of the draw thing?

Depends. Some people get lucky and get a “batch approval” of all their cans together (or some of them), and others don’t. I’ve never had more than 2 in at a time, and when I did, they were not batch approved.

 

[Czoo]

I hears from my local dealer that customers that were submit multiple form 4’s at the same time were getting them back much quicker then single item applications.

Is there any truth to this or is it just a luck of the draw thing?

I submitted 4 cans at once in June. Got back 3 in November. Waiting on the last one.

 

[dm250]

I submitted 4 cans at once in June. Got back 3 in November. Waiting on the last one.

Interesting. This is in line with what my local dealer is saying. So maybe there is some truth to it.

June-November is incredible!! I remember one my mine took 12-13 months.

 

[buyobuyo]

My first form 4 was just approved on 12/21 after 222 days. eFile/Trust through LGS & Silencer Shop.

 

[gearguywb]

Submitted 2 in March.....still waiting

 

[Necessary 3vil]

I’ve had a form 4 submitted since Dec of 22. I’m still waiting and I have from day one embraced the whole hurry up and wait concept. But I keep seeing people claiming they got theirs in only 2-6 months during this year, 23. Makes zero sense to me how that’s possible! I’ve got a form 1 submitted Dec 5th of this year and I’m betting it’ll get approved before the form 4…lol

The frustration is real….

 

[QS-1911]

I’ve had a form 4 submitted since Dec of 22. I’m still waiting and I have from day one embraced the whole hurry up and wait concept. But I keep seeing people claiming they got theirs in only 2-6 months during this year, 23. Makes zero sense to me how that’s possible! I’ve got a form 1 submitted Dec 5th of this year and I’m betting it’ll get approved before the form 4…lol

The frustration is real….

Its certainly hit and miss. I submitted on 22 May and got approved on the 6 Dec for a Form 4. But then I see post such as yours and countless others who have been waiting for close to a year or longer. It can be disheartening to say the least.

 

[Desert_Racer]

Anyone have issues with efiling and the county not populating on the form?

I just submitted a form 1 and realized after the fact that my county didn't auto populate on the form, even though it shows my county correctly in my eforms profile. I created a new efile form 1 to see if it would allow me to enter or change my county and it wouldn't. Seems like a problem with the software. I emailed Ask the Experts, but figured I'd ask here.

 

[Necessary 3vil]

Don’t know if I’m happy or pissed that the form was approved in less than 30 days while my form form is still pending since Dec-2022.

 

[USK308]

My Form 1 (SBR) was approved in 33 days. My Form 4’s for my two cans is still in the holding pattern…

 

[Necessary 3vil]

Can’t believe it…. My form 4 was approved few hours after the form 1.
Wow!!!

 

[USK308]

Can’t believe it…. My form 4 was approved few hours after the form 1.
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Congrats!!!

 

[Necessary 3vil]

Congrats!!!

Been a LONG time coming. The stressing and frustration is finally over until the next purchase..haha

 

[USK308]

Been a LONG time coming. The stressing and frustration is finally over until the next purchase..haha

...and just like that, another can (or three) is about to be purchased!

 

[Necessary 3vil]

...and just like that, another can (or three) is about to be purchased!

With high probability…of waiting and bitching about how long it’s taking.

 

[MunneY]

Have 2 sitting at 300 days today and several more behind them


Lame af

 

[CaptNkllm]

Final Paperwork in for my first Cans.. All Tbac 4 total

 

[sgtkeebler]

Just got my Form 1 back in 18 days.
Submitted 11/27/23
Approved 12/15/23

 

[Raffy]

Eform 4 submitted 6/21/23 through the LGS with a trust. Got the call that it's been approved 1/6/24. 195 days. I have 1 more on form 4 that's about 3 months behind it. This one is my first can so I'm super pumped to go phffft with it!

 

[BuckeyeCZ77]

I’ve got one sitting (trust) at 172 days, and just submitted another one. I have no earthly idea how long it will take. I was hoping the one submitted in July would have been approved by now.

I’m guessing Spring at the earliest and next fall on the more recently submitted. The entire thing is a head scratcher in this digital age.

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

I'm waiting on one that I originally certified March 2022, but they kicked back without explanation in February 2023, and it's still not approved. What should I do at this point?

 

[Necessary 3vil]

I'm waiting on one that I originally certified March 2022, but they kicked back without explanation in February 2023, and it's still not approved. What should I do at this point?

Contact the ATF and the FBI NICS to inquire why it was delayed or kicked back so to speak. I’d recommend contacting your state congressman and or senator to also inquire on your behalf!!!

 

[lash]

I hears from my local dealer that customers that were submit multiple form 4’s at the same time were getting them back much quicker then single item applications.

Is there any truth to this or is it just a luck of the draw thing?

That sounds like dealer talk for, “buy more shit from me.”

I filed two form 4 s on the same day in July. No word yet.

 

[BuckeyeCZ77]

Send a generic inquiry to the ATF and in return get the same generic response...

Some confuse the few exceptions that get an approval after "contacting their congressman" with that affecting their stamp with the whole system being random.

My rep is Jim Jordan and this is what happened to me. I was kind of hoping for a more aggressive stance from them, but I’m just a constituent…. The wait continues.

 

[Necessary 3vil]

My rep is Jim Jordan and this is what happened to me. I was kind of hoping for a more aggressive stance from them, but I’m just a constituent…. The wait continues.

Another thing I was told and not too sure how true it is but, was told that your age has a lot to do with it and how much security clearances and or trouble you’ve been in. Determines the depth of background checks applied for an NFA item vs just the standard NICs check for typical firearms purchases. Again, skeptical about this statement but wouldn’t be surprised!

 

[Hecouldgoalltheway]

Another thing I was told and not too sure how true it is but, was told that your age has a lot to do with it and how much security clearances and or trouble you’ve been in. Determines the depth of background checks applied for an NFA item vs just the standard NICs check for typical firearms purchases. Again, skeptical about this statement but wouldn’t be surprised!

I can promise you that isn't true. I've had as high a dod security clearance as anyone I've ever known, and all of my prior approvals are 11 months or more. Meanwhile some of you shady sumbitches are getting 90 day approvals..

 

[Necessary 3vil]

I can promise you that isn't true. I've had as high a dod security clearance as anyone I've ever known, and all of my prior approvals are 11 months or more. Meanwhile some of you shady sumbitches are getting 90 day approvals..

Right!!!! I waited 369 days for my form 4

 

[QS-1911]

Another thing I was told and not too sure how true it is but, was told that your age has a lot to do with it and how much security clearances and or trouble you’ve been in. Determines the depth of background checks applied for an NFA item vs just the standard NICs check for typical firearms purchases. Again, skeptical about this statement but wouldn’t be surprised!

No where near true. I have a TS with and SCI read-on and Polygraph and my first one took 345 days and 198 days. Still waiting on another one.

 

[Necessary 3vil]

No where near true. I have a TS with and SCI read-on and Polygraph and my first one took 345 days and 198 days. Still waiting on another one.

Like I said and add now, you can’t believe shit anyone says anymore on the inter Webs….lol

 

[Raffy]

Honestly I'd bet they make date batches and just go through the alphabet a to z and repeat over and over. The times don't make any sense otherwise. I just got mine back yesterday, and my brother who submitted his 3 weeks before me, but also in June, got his back today. I'd imagine they have to have some kind of system. No one could ever know it for sure unless you knew someone who worked there though. Although, that would not explain batch approvals.

 

[Astrozombie]

Obsidian 9
Trust
Certified 6/25
Approved 1/8
196 days

 

[lash]

Okay, so I don’t pay much attention to tracking these things but am interested now for some reason. I filed 2 Efile forms at my LGS in July-ish. How does one go about checking status online? Or is that even possible?

 

[ping]

Okay, so I don’t pay much attention to tracking these things but am interested now for some reason. I filed 2 Efile forms at my LGS in July-ish. How does one go about checking status online? Or is that even possible?

I could be mistaken but I do not believe you can track progress online through the eforms atf site. I believe the process is simply send it away and wait for the email approval notification from the ATF. That is how the last 3 worked for me over the past 18 months. All I ever received was the initial submission confirmation email and the approval email for each one after approximately 287 days. I logged into the atf eforms site and it did not show anything.

 

[lash]

I could be mistaken but I do not believe you can track progress online through the eforms atf site. I believe the process is simply send it away and wait for the email approval notification from the ATF. That is how the last 3 worked for me over the past 18 months. All I ever received was the initial submission confirmation email and the approval email for each one after approximately 287 days. I logged into the atf eforms site and it did not show anything.

Thanks, typical gubmint operation then, kinda what I expected. All information flows in only one direction, up.

 

[Bluedog82]

I could be mistaken but I do not believe you can track progress online through the eforms atf site. I believe the process is simply send it away and wait for the email approval notification from the ATF. That is how the last 3 worked for me over the past 18 months. All I ever received was the initial submission confirmation email and the approval email for each one after approximately 287 days. I logged into the atf eforms site and it did not show anything.

Correct, there’s no progress you can track online. Back during paper forms, you could call and see what your status was (basically, pending or approved) because the process took longer. A few pages back people were able to find an email to see if your NICS check was done , I think.

 

[Necessary 3vil]

Okay, so I don’t pay much attention to tracking these things but am interested now for some reason. I filed 2 Efile forms at my LGS in July-ish. How does one go about checking status online? Or is that even possible?

Call ATF, @(304)616-4500. Make sure you have your serial number and order# for each item. They will tell you if said items are pending approval or other…