Suppressors Form 4 wait time

[SlimJim_]

Somebody needs to organize a drive to get this done in Congress.

Lots of folks buying silencers today, so there are enough persons doing it to get some attention. It's not like the old days when most gun owners did not even know machine guns and silencers were legal.

It would be nice to see the breakdown of applications that are suppressors vs everything else...that number has to be pretty high these days.
I remember a while back that a group had introduced legislation that would deregulate suppressors (2017/2018?), but it was shelved due to some idiot using one in a shooting, or had one on him or something just before it was going to be voted on (If I remember correctly, someone please correct me if I'm wrong). But, the SHUSH Act was introduced in May 2024....Hopefully this will pass.

 

[TheOE800]

It would be nice to see the breakdown of applications that are suppressors vs everything else...that number has to be pretty high these days.
I remember a while back that a group had introduced legislation that would deregulate suppressors (2017/2018?), but it was shelved due to some idiot using one in a shooting, or had one on him or something just before it was going to be voted on (If I remember correctly, someone please correct me if I'm wrong). But, the SHUSH Act was introduced in May 2024....Hopefully this will pass.

It was the Scalise shooting.

 

[CMP70306]

It would be nice to see the breakdown of applications that are suppressors vs everything else...that number has to be pretty high these days.
I remember a while back that a group had introduced legislation that would deregulate suppressors (2017/2018?), but it was shelved due to some idiot using one in a shooting, or had one on him or something just before it was going to be voted on (If I remember correctly, someone please correct me if I'm wrong). But, the SHUSH Act was introduced in May 2024....Hopefully this will pass.

It was the Scalise shooting.

The Vegas shooting happened when the ASA was pushing the Hearing Protection Act, after that nobody wanted anything to do with it.

 

[K80/6.5]

One day after my congresswoman looked into my suppressor it was approved 216 days. Don’t be lazy like me reach out to your politicians if you have been waiting awhile. Looking forward to my Magnus SR.

 

[ChrisAU]

Did one Monday afternoon that got approved today. That’s 2/4/3 days on 3 I’ve gotten this year.

 

[Zebulon]

April 10 2024 trust
atf notified they had Info

Aug 2 2024

Approved

 

[Simonsza1]

I’m 3/20 atf conformation and nothing but crickets. This shit is so stupid.

 

[J_D]

I’m 6 days in with individual form 4 and same….. who’s getting these in days, because I for one am not?

 

[DetroitRearView]

7 days in my case…form 4 individual kiosk, just crickets in the ATF “approval” process

Approved by ATF 10 days from time of reform submission

 

[SlimJim_]

One day after my congresswoman looked into my suppressor it was approved 216 days. Don’t be lazy like me reach out to your politicians if you have been waiting awhile. Looking forward to my Magnus SR.

I am genuinely curious about how you asked her to look into this (because I want to ask myself). Email, phone call? Thanks in advance for the information.

 

[Simonsza1]

Just got off the phone with them. Pending is my status from 3/20. She said 155 days is the “average” approval time right now. But “this is just the average “ so I guess about 8/20 I’ll be at the average. Fingers crossed I get to enjoy them for hunting season.

 

[K80/6.5]

I am genuinely curious about how you asked her to look into this (because I want to ask myself). Email, phone call? Thanks in advance for the information.

Emailed asking if she could help look into my approval process on form 4 let her know what the average wait time was and where I was at 200+ days and she had me give her my serial number some other reference number and fill out some paperwork which was probably her office confidential paperwork. One of her assistants was in contact with me and helped me make sure I filled out the paperwork correctly. It was super easy all I did was looked up representative/congress person for my area. Only complaint now I keep getting political text to my phone. lol the price you pay!

 

[Simonsza1]

If your go to your congressman website there’s a tab right on it that says assist with government forms. In my state anyway.

 

[SlimJim_]

Emailed asking if she could help look into my approval process on form 4 let her know what the average wait time was and where I was at 200+ days and she had me give her my serial number some other reference number and fill out some paperwork which was probably her office confidential paperwork. One of her assistants was in contact with me and helped me make sure I filled out the paperwork correctly. It was super easy all I did was looked up representative/congress person for my area. Only complaint now I keep getting political text to my phone. lol the price you pay!

If your go to your congressman website there’s a tab right on it that says assist with government forms. In my state anyway.

Awesome!
Thanks for the help guys!
I'm sitting at about 175 days now...not horrible considering the last one took a year, but a lot longer than it should be.

 

[HockeyGoalie27]

Just got off the phone with them. Pending is my status from 3/20. She said 155 days is the “average” approval time right now. But “this is just the average “ so I guess about 8/20 I’ll be at the average. Fingers crossed I get to enjoy them for hunting season.

When I called they said 60 days was the average wait.

 

[ChrisAU]

I haven’t seen or heard of any taking longer than 5 days in the last few months EXCEPT a buddy who had an arrest on his record that charges were dropped on over 10 years ago. His took 25 days or so. All individual with eft prints submitted by FFL, NOT Silencer Central or Silencer Shop.

 

[J_D]

TBAC Magnus K-RR and S-RR
E-form 4 Individual
Certified 7-30-24
Approved ??

Let's see how it goes.....I normally do a Trust and have one waiting since 3-8-24.

My S-RR just literally showed up in my email as approved.......hopefully the K-RR follows, and my 419 Maverick on a trust from March 8th also comes in......I can't believe it took 8 days! The K just showed up as well. Xmas in Aug.

 

[femadog]

Two cans, Standardized Single Shot Trusts
One certified 6/6/24
One certified 6/26/24
Approved 8/7/24

Looks like they batched them. Waited longer for one of the backordered cans to get manufactured than get approved......

 

[Nouseforaname01]

My last suppressor was approved in a few hours after been submitted, so I decided to roll the dice again. I purchased a Silencerco Velos 556 can this time around and the approval process was still very fast.

Submitted and in process on 7/31
Approved this morning 8/8

 

[J_D]

Colion Noir just put up a video on YouTube that explains why the process is faster now.

ATF Insider Talks NFA

 

[rdinak]

I would send my examiner Godiva chocolates if I was approved in less than 90 days. Oh well, that gives them 7 days to redeem the good will offer.

 

[Malum Prohibitum]

I would send my examiner Godiva chocolates if I was approved in less than 90 days. Oh well, that gives them 7 days to redeem the good will offer.

Evidence of of federal bribery charges, right here in the open!

Your dog is probably already shot as I am typing this . . .

 

[FieldGaugeFailure]

I haven’t seen or heard of any taking longer than 5 days in the last few months EXCEPT a buddy who had an arrest on his record that charges were dropped on over 10 years ago. His took 25 days or so. All individual with eft prints submitted by FFL, NOT Silencer Central or Silencer Shop.

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Spotless record here. Last can took 40 days, this current can is 50+ days and counting.

 

[Chew]

eForm 4 Individual
Certified 8/1/2024
Approved 8/9/2024

CAT NOAH 6mm

 

[Sigma]

eform 4 individual
certified 8/2/2024
approved 8/9/2024

woohoo!!!!

 

[Conrad101st]

Hard to gripe.

 

[Sigma]

time to stock up while the goin is good my friends

 

[91Eunozs]

Dang, I’m kind of jealous of the folks getting theirs back in just weeks, or even days!

Up to 13 now, with two more pending, and the wait times have averaged just under a year via our trust. Fastest was ~4 months.

Last can took ~9 months. What pisses me off about that one is that it was just the first can (Hybrid 46) when I fell for SilencerCo’s BOGO ‘deal’ last year. Just checked again and the “free” Omega 300 still hasn’t been assigned; hell, maybe (likely) it hasn’t even been built by SiCo yet. BOGO can status still showing “In Process” almost a year after purchasing the 46 (just over 11 months ago), and we still have the ATF hoops to jump through yet again after SiCo does their part.

I called SiCo about a month ago, and got a big fat “We’re working on it” non-answer. I know, I know…1st world problems.

Also still have one in jail at Capitol Armory; one of the little 15th Anniversary special edition titanium Sparrow 22 cans. That will be nice on our little 10/22 take downs.

Ordered: 2 Nov 2023
Form 4 mailed: 9 Dec 2023
Check cashed: unknown - sent by Capitol Armory
Approved: Not yet! LoL

Update!

Ordered: 2 Nov 2023
eForm 4 (Trust) mailed: 9 Dec 2023
Check cashed: unknown - sent in by Capitol Armory
Approved: 27 July 2024

Finally got up to N. Austin (technically Cedar Park) today to pick it up in person at Capitol Armory.

Very, very light, and pretty:

Almost too pretty to shoot… Almost.

 

[clcustom1911]

EForm-4 individual with paper prints

Submitted 7/17
Approved 8/12

 

[7mm]

Got a batch approval today (kinda)

Sycthe ti
Omega 300
Both submitted 1/31/24
Only the scythe was approved 8/13/24

DD Lti
Hybrid 46
Both submitted 6/7/24
Approved 8/13/24

All individual

 

[Simonsza1]

Same happened to me. I bitched about the waiting time last week. Then I called on Tuesday, got approved on Friday but only for one. Guess I’m still waiting on the others even though they were all submitted same time.

 

[SlimJim_]

I just wish there was some sort of uniformity with these approval times......

Silly me, I thought the "eFile" system was supposed to help with that... Not in my case...

 

[912173]

Silencer shop Single shot trust with only myself on it.
Certified 5/6/24
Approved 8/12/24
Still waiting to get paperwork
Surefire 5.56 mini 2

 

[SlimJim_]

Silencer shop Single shot trust with only myself on it.
Certified 5/6/24
Approved 8/12/24
Still waiting to get paperwork
Surefire 5.56 mini 2

Next time I might try SS.

I'm looking to get a TBAC 30 cal Magnus for my next one....I've heard they are awesome.

 

[Forrest84]

Single shot Trust
Certified 02/12/24
Still waiting

 

[Sum Ting Wong]

Silencer Shop kiosk Individual
Finally certified 7/29/24 after two months of being out of stock.
Approved 10/15/24

 

[mattc51]

Got an Otter Creek Plonomium approved in a couple days through Capital Armory.

 

[Thumper580]

eform 4 individual
Silencer Shop to my LGS.
6 days approval time once submitted.

 

[FuhQ]

Single shot Trust
Certified 02/12/24
Still waiting

Damn... Have you called the ATF to check on that? My Magnus-S is on a SS Trust, and i'm at 98 days (5/7/24)... ATF lady was nice and said trusts are still averaging around 120-150 days. My last SS Trust was 120 on the dot just a few months back.

 

[doubloon]

Almost too pretty to shoot… Almost.

I got two with those SBX barrels mounted in T/CR22 receivers and they are tack drivers. One with a Hogue stock and the other with a Magpul stock, the Magpul barely edges out the Hogue.

 

[tarheel7734]

My First two were approved in 5 days each while my latest one took 10 days. These have all been over the past 3 months.

 

[callen3615]

Single shot trust eform
ATF accepted 01/25/24
Approved 08/14/24
Omega 300

 

[Forrest84]

Damn... Have you called the ATF to check on that? My Magnus-S is on a SS Trust, and i'm at 98 days (5/7/24)... ATF lady was nice and said trusts are still averaging around 120-150 days. My last SS Trust was 120 on the dot just a few months back.

I’ll see if I can find a number to call and check up.

 

[FuhQ]

I’ll see if I can find a number to call and check up.

(304) 616-4500

 

[Forrest84]

(304) 616-4500

Thanks!

 

[Forrest84]

(304) 616-4500

Lol well that didn’t work out, they weren’t the least bit interested in helping. The lady said average is 150 days that’s all the help I can get, it will be done when it’s done.

 

[FuhQ]

Lol well that didn’t work out, they weren’t the least bit interested in helping. The lady said average is 150 days that’s all the help I can get, it will be done when it’s done.

That’s all anyone gets. This must be your first suppressor… Well, welcome to what is the wasted tax dollars of bureaucracy.

 

[912173]

Speaking of bureaucracy, my leo friend just told me atf is the agency that deals with hate crimes. I don't know how long that's been a thing, but hate crime is a very loose term in 2024.

 

[crackerbrown]

Lol well that didn’t work out, they weren’t the least bit interested in helping. The lady said average is 150 days that’s all the help I can get, it will be done when it’s done.

Yep. Here too.

 

[Capri_Man]

Yeah email ipb@atf.gov and give them your control/permit numbers and let them know you got an approval and provide that control number too, they normally hook me up in less than 12 hours

So I sent my email to them, I never got a response but I did just get my second approval for the tbac fly9 25 days after the 1st.

TBAC Fly9
E-form 4
Silencer shop single shot unlimited trust (1st application 2nd approval)
Certified 5-17-24
Approved 8-16-24
Time waited 91 days