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.224 62gr ELD-VT Reports?
Anyone tried loading the new .224 62gr ELD-VT? Looking for any reports on it.
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What was accuracy like? What coal? I just roughly went boattail to neck/shoulder junction. Far from the lands in my barrel.
I loaded them about 15 off at 2.130” in a .120 freebore barrel. That is base to ogive. The 42 and 42.3 were about 1/2” and each had one bullet not touching the others. First shot on both groups. Biggest group from 39-42.5 was probably 1-1.5”
Sorry to hear you had to dial back the length, the sleekness. Was this because of center of pressure and stability concerns? And how many BC points would you guess you gave up by losing a "better" form factor. (I put "better" in quotes cuz if there's any wobble from lack of stability you're gonna lose BC even if it's sleeker.)
Drag/BC change was pretty negligible assuming proper stabilization. Turns out bearing surface (where I cut the length from) doesn't count much for drag.
it got them viable in a step slower twist rate and saved case capacity for the little ARC/Grendel's. Win/win
What did you start with as far as the load. I just grabbed some of these and ready to play with them in 223.
Benchmark I worked up from 23.5-25. I’m going to load at 24.5 but saw no pressure signs.
Xbr I work up from 23 and couldn’t hit pressure and loaded at 24.
Varget I couldn’t get enough powder in the case to make velocity I wanted. (3k)
This is all in adi brass with a fed 205AR.
Bolt gun or AR? I have both with 1-8" barrels and am thinking this will be a better option than the 53gr V-Max if it will work at AR mag length. If not, I can go out to 2.5" in the bolt gun.
Bolt. Shortest you’re going to get is around 2.38” coal on these in a 223 case.
They are shooting awesome, I’ll be shooting a lot of these
Mail lady just delivered some of the 62’s and an aftermarket mag for my Tikka. I can load it longer now. Hoping these shoot decent in mine also.
Mines a proof steel barrel chambered by LRI, but freebore on a factory tikka should be about right. I’ll be testing some of these in my dads factory tikka here soon as well.
They shoot good. Went and tested stability a little farther out. This is 13 rounds at 400 yards, target is 6”. Average with 24.5 of benchmark was 3040, not close at all to pressure, baked a hand full of rounds in the sun for a while, benchmark seems to be a good powder.
My bolt gun is a Tikka Varmint and I get 3025 fps with the 75gr ELDM and H4895 loaded to 2.49" using a MDT AICS magazine. These should shoot pretty good out of the factory barrel.
Haven’t gotten ahold of any yet as I keep missing the releases. It’s getting towards the end of my shooting season so I probably won’t get a chance to work on them until later this year.
I have a 1:8 twist. Overall group was under 1 inch. That was at 101 yards off a bipod with a 1-6X lpvo. Most all loads with 75 grain bullets were under 1 inch. The 55 grn factory loads didn't print under 1 inch. I have Varget and a jug of Superformance that I bought for a 22 Creedmoor but it Superformance didn't work as well as other powders did. Glad to have something that I can use the Superformance in.
They will not work well at all in that 10.
I ran them for a short time in a 22creed 9 twist they did well for about 100 rounds and then never could get them to go again. Will try again with an 8 twist. Have heard similar issues
Saw some of the factory 6.5 creedmoor ammo shot this last week. 3200fps, 6 creed level recoil, shot lights out.
Hornady is going to sell a shit load of these bullets.
I appreciate the innovation and outside of the norm thinking.
Hornady is going to sell a shit load of these bullets.
I appreciate the innovation and outside of the norm thinking.
We shot a bunch of them in 300 PRC for drag data and a little bit of heat testing and never had a failure. They murder our big ordnance gel blocks so should be pretty impressive on small/medium game (don't shoot deer with this combo.. lol.. you're going to waste most of the meat). Believe we were getting 3275-3300fps with the MRADs (26" pipe) and RL-26. Kinda standing on it though, definitely work up for your rifle. We just wanted them fast as possible for drag data.
Thanks, the quote above was for a 22 Creed then or what cartridge? I'm hoping for 3000-3100 fps with the 225 ELD M out of my 27" 300 NM so 3300 should be fairly reasonable?
Just picked some of these up in 6.5 creed. Anyone know the bullet length of the 6.5 100g? Search Fu not working.
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
Any chance factory loadings of these bullets make it to the 6.5 PRC or maybe a 25 cal cartridge? Would love to see a factory 134 ELD M loading too... I'd probably sell my 6 CM for a 25 PRC
I think both things (.25 cal cartridge and 100gr Vmatch 6.5 PRC) would be cool but those calls are made over my head.
I played with 25 PRC and I doubt it goes anywhere as a commercial option. I just don't see us going more over-bore than 6.5 PRC. In the two barrels I chambered accuracy was erratic for me. Granted they were carbon wrapped, but it was two different brands' barrels, same story.
100gr VT's in 6.5 PRC... Wouldn't hold my breath but that one has a better chance to be a possibility. Again though, just me talking and I don't call the shots.
I intend to try it later this year, I’m running the 143 ELD-X at 2800 fps in an 18” barrel for deer and plan on dual loading the 100gr for the rest of the year when deer aren’t in season.
When I was testing it in our rifles the 100gr shot great in the 6.5 PRC, but it did ding up our 300yd steel
When I was testing it in our rifles the 100gr shot great in the 6.5 PRC, but it did ding up our 300yd steel
What kind of speed could you get over the 143? Trying to get a realistic ballpark.
I hear you, and the step down to 25 cal from 6.5 really isn’t much, but you can get into heavier bullets with the 6.5 which is nice (and tons of bullets around). I’m no expert on overbore, but interesting to hear 25 PRC would be more than what you’d do from the factory. I guess I just like the idea of a quarter bore but a 6.5 with some extra horsepower could probably scratch that itch!
The 6.5 is a very versatile caliber; I know you were pushing the 80’s hard in the PRC, but what would be a reasonable velocity for the 80’s out of a 26” 6.5 PRC?
I'd guess ~350-400 fps faster. 3400fps give or take with a 24" barrel shooting 100 VT's in a 6.5 PRC.
It’d definitely be a niche market, but I’d buy a box of 85-87 grain, .257 ELD-VT’s that’d spin in a 1:10” today.
G1 could be around .4-.45, 3,400 out of my .25-06. Would simply leave a smoking hole in the ground where a coyote once stood. Should shoot “close enough for Tennessee” with a rifle zero’ed with 100 grain deer loads.
90 grain Blitzkings are unobtainium. 85 grain ballistic tips shoot great, but they’re hard. Both have an easily beatable BC with ELD-VT technology.
It would own that small market…….
G1 could be around .4-.45, 3,400 out of my .25-06. Would simply leave a smoking hole in the ground where a coyote once stood. Should shoot “close enough for Tennessee” with a rifle zero’ed with 100 grain deer loads.
90 grain Blitzkings are unobtainium. 85 grain ballistic tips shoot great, but they’re hard. Both have an easily beatable BC with ELD-VT technology.
It would own that small market…….
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Have you shot any of these from an 18” 22-250? I’ll be ordering an 8 twist barrel for my 250, but undecided to go 20” or 18”. We can’t run supressors in Canada, but I’ll probably put a brake on it tho just cuz. I’m thinking it’ll be a flame thrower if I go any less than 20”.
I have not yet, haven’t been looking real hard and when I do they are out of stock so I haven’t picked up any yet. I haven’t shot ours without the suppressor yet but since it’s loud with the short suppressors I’m sure it will be quite loud without one.
I got about 3340 fps with a 22" bbl. In my 22-250. I would go with a 20" bbl over an 18" bbl. I don't run a suppressor or brake.
