That's the way I like it.Breach sucks — hard and fast.
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That's the way I like it.Breach sucks — hard and fast.
I agree, except I don’t think the RL25 is clip-on capable. It will do stand-along weapon sight, but not clip on.The iRay RL25 Rico doesn’t hardly get any notice. It’s the same chassis as the RH25 except with a 384 core and 2X native mag. Which is interesting because it has literally the same image quality (identical objective diameter, pixel density, detection range, and Clip-on shooting distance capability) at the expense of 40% less FOV. But the advantage of being $3000 cheaper...
You can buy a Gen3 PVS14, RL25, and bridge mount CHEAPER than just the RH25 and still have the same PID and clip-on shooting distance capability.
If most people aren’t getting good visual fusion (if at all) from 1X stand-alone thermals paired with a PVS14... then why get hung up on the 1X base magnification of the thermal when you can save 50% and still have the same image quality? Sure, the extra FOV of the 640 core is nice... but is it $3000 nicer? Navigate with the PVS alone, flip the thermal down & close your PVS-eye to scan, and if you see something you want to shoot either engage with your laser/illuminator/RDS or pop the thermal in front of your scope and take that shot.
The documentation says clip on and it has the same body and adapters...I agree, except I don’t think the RL25 is clip-on capable. It will do stand-along weapon sight, but not clip on.
Base magnification on the clip-on wouldn’t be a problem assuming it still has the collimating correction feature in the menu. Whether a clip-onthermal collimates a 2X or 1X image POI to your scope’s POA doesn’t matter; it’s still zeroed. The only problem you really run into is stadiametric reticles and scope click values would no longer work as intended... but just double or halve the values as required and you’re back in business.The IRAY USA Spec sheet for the RH25 and RL25 shows only the RH25 has clip-on capability. Someone with more knowledge may be able to explain, but I thought I read it had something to do with the base 2x mag of the RL25.
Im sure the 2x minimum magnification is what prevents that.Bummer. Seems like a software feature that would cost $0 to include.
I can assure you that having 2x native magnification will not prevent it from being used as a clip-on if you can move the margins.Im sure the 2x minimum magnification is what prevents that.
Exactly.Bummer. Seems like a software feature that would cost $0 to include.
If you think their homepage is a mess, you should try reading this fucking manual they shipped out.Infiray's home pages are a mess. Lots of errors in the data presented for different models.
Sharpen up on your Mandarin and get them to send you a Owners Manual in that. Maybe it is written better and easier to understand.If you think their homepage is a mess, you should try reading this fucking manual they shipped out.
I'm inclined to think the manual was written in America, by Americans. It's quite comprehensive, but the decision to let Charlie Conspiracy design it was ill-advised. Here's an example:Sharpen up on your Mandarin and get them to send you a Owners Manual in that. Maybe it is written better and easier to understand.
I would agree with this. A thermal of this type is suited for "room clearing"/CBQ distances. You can get hits with it at distance, but you will start to pixelated pretty heavily from 3x optical mag and up.I really think that a Breach would cover your helmet mounted scanning needs so you don’t have to give up any performance in the weapon mounted thermal category. That 50mm objective on the super Yoter really does something performance-wise that can’t be duplicated with a small objective lense thermal.
Plus you are talking about pulling off the RH25 to use on a helmet and back to rifle again for shots. You might as well just QD the super Yoter off and scan with it, and then mount it again once you found your target. Loss of zero is a non issue. If you don’t want to scan with the yoter off, then just get a helmet mounted unit and be done with it.
I would much rather have 1 HMT & 1 RMT instead of a unit that has to go back and forth from helmet to rifle all the time. Sounds nifty until you are in the field, in the dark, swapping everything around before a shot on something.
From a guy who wanted a RH25 until I picked up a super Yoter. I’ve owned the MH25 and wasn’t impressed (to say it nicely), it made me hesitant to drop $6k on the RH25. Especially if the screen and menu are the same size as the MH25. I have a feeling the RH25 does everything, just not well.
The RH25 absolutely has its place I think. If my situation dictated a absolute minimalist and lightweight setup, with only room in a bag for 1 thermal, I would likely opt for it. It seems to shine in more of a “tactical” role as opposed to a serious hunting role. Something you could keep in your chest rig and use whenever a situation called for it.
All of the above is just my humble opinion, and coming from more of a practical use/hunting perspective. No possible WW3 on US soil scenarios are dictating my decision making processes…. Yet.
Forgot to post this tonight
Forgot to post this tonight
I wonder if the Hogsters and Yoters do that video flicker thing. I admit, I’ve never used any of the random features like pictures/videos/Bluetooth/app on mine. I just shoot.This came up over on Arfcom, so figured I could repost here as well - concerns were raised about the unit "flickering" or "malfunctioning" under recoil. I haven't experienced anything I haven't also seen in other thermals that have onboard recording - it looks like very normal behavior to me.
Here's a single unsuppressed 5.56 round being fired handheld at 100yd the other night, slowed down to 10% normal speed, showing the unit auto-exposing much darker when hit with the hot muzzle blast, then ramping back up to normal exposure quite quickly. You can even see a flash on the steel where the round impacted. The 50fps onboard recording on the RH25 makes this super easy to record and share.
And then full-speed -
Not available yet. Plans to produce, but no ETA.I recently received mine and really haven't had time to do anything with it other then power on and read manual... Can anyone tell me where to find/ order one of these? On page 13 of the manual. I could have swore someone made mention of it before but couldn't find it. Thank you in advance. View attachment 7859784
concerns were raised about the unit "flickering" or "malfunctioning" under recoil. I haven't experienced anything I haven't also seen in other thermals that have onboard recording - it looks like very normal behavior to me.
Yep, same here. For whatever reason I got a ton of IG messages from folks all worried that it was really bad under recoil. Just looking for problems I guess. My only issue is the US priceI think the concern is a little overblown as far as actual use goes. I captured some video of the RH25 RICO MICRO last week to see if recoil made the screen flicker. I imported the footage directly into Final Cut ProX at native resolution, and slowed it down 50%. Couldn't see any problems. So I slowed it down to 25% speed, and finally around 15% to 12% or so, I caught what we're talking about: Manually advancing the video counter frame-by-frame, I counted four to six frames that exhibited horizontal lines under full recoil (12.5" suppressed 5.56m AR-type with M855).
However, using my eyeball at 100% speed (that is to say "in normal use by a human") I couldn't / didn't notice any blurring or distortion in the display. The rifle is pretty much in full recoil / jumped off target, and muzzle bloom is going on during that sequence-time as well, so by the time I'm re-acquiring target, the distortion is long gone.
If this means there could be better potting or recoil abatement, or if that affects long-term durability, I guess that's up to be discovered, but in real-world (even at half-speed slowmo) you aren't going to see any glitching.
Not available yet. Plans to produce, but no ETA
Not available yet. Plans to produce, but no ETA.
Thanks for the reply and i agree.. just trying to make sure i have a solution to the "jelly" effect because going from Nox18 to this I def notice it. Also i found it strange I could not find it. I also have 2 other questions im hoping someone can help me with.Not available yet. Plans to produce, but no ETA.
Thanks for the reply and i agree.. just trying to make sure i have a solution to the "jelly" effect because going from Nox18 to this I def notice it. Also i found it strange I could not find it. I also have 2 other questions im hoping someone can help me with.
Can you use/install pvs14 upgrade eyepiece on this unit like RH25?
Also confused on if you have to buy the dovetail and the weapon mount separately. Reviews ive watched say it comes with them but pictures on website doesn't show them with the unit. Thanks.
Probably depends on the quality of rice the workers were given that week.Well I bought one and my soul feels dirty.. I am trying to put this in front of my 1-8 nx8 in a badger comm 1.70 using the ADM qd setup on the rh25. Will the 1.7 mount be a big issue with the 1.5 rh25? I cant find a 1.54 badger comm in stock anywhere.
With millions and millions of the Chinese population locked into their homes these days, I imagine things are starting to look like this.Probably depends on the quality of rice the workers were given that week.
What kind of issues are being reported.It shouldn’t matter but some folks have had interesting issues with other units.
Can’t remember if it was a Yoter or TIG that had weird image shift? Either way pretty sure it wasn’t an American unit.What kind of issues are being reported.
I'll report back this weekend, although I am running the old nx8.
Would love to see pics on the rifle too if you don’t mind. Should clear IR devices right?No issues with the dual qd mount (I believe its a 1.5) and my nx8 at 1.70.
First impressions of the RH25, looks like a really solid and well built unit. My biggest complaint with the MH25 was the cheap housing and switch design, definitely a step in the right direction with the RH. I will spend some time with it tonight and get some through the optic pictures.
Would love to see pics on the rifle too if you don’t mind. Should clear IR devices right?