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I really think this setup. I have the wind vane setup but it likes to shut off at times so just watch thatAnticipating arrival (on Oct 18th) of the Kestrel 5700 Elite with Applied Ballistics/Link.
A MagnetoSpeed Sporter model (barrel-mounted chronograph measuring true muzzle velocity for various ammo tested) will complete the needed measurements for the Kestrel to enhance the shooting experience. More later...after testing and some backpacking with the rifle.
I really think this setup. I have the wind vane setup but it likes to shut off at times so just watch that
I seem to recall information somewhere about setting up a 5700 Elite for .22 long rifle. Now that I want to set stuff up, I cannot seem to locate said information. Does such a thing exist? I'd like to setup this friggin' awesome gadget for use with my NRL22 trainer.
Interestingly, the model does not say "Applied Ballistics" as shown elsewhere...but shows "Elite Ballistics." Hmmmm, go figure???
So I just got my kestrel 5700 elite and watched about 3 hours of utube videos figuring out how to operate the meter. My plan was to true my MV and DSF as described in the videos this weekend. Now I hear frank who's obviously more seasoned with the meter than I saying to tweek the BC and MV. Makes sense knowing that BCs change with velocity and I'm using a G1 number currently which is not a good representative of the actual torjectory. Was also going to try my best to down load the custom drag curves for my 142 smk and 168smk. I did find them on AB library so I know they're there. Accurate subsonic holds is what I'm after
What's the best way to go about truing all my data?
Hello, try to check in Kestrel folowing: gun-MV-MV temp. If you have filled for what temp you have muzzle velocity table. Normaly after FW update is this default OFF. Maybe it helps.HELP: I updated my Kestrel 5700 last night to version 1.23 and it erased my data to in the kestrel like it said which is no big deal. I still had the info on my phone to resend it over. For reference before the update i did the MV Calibration it said for 1000 Yards i should be 8.2 Mils but it was really 8.0 so not far off, i had to bump my velocity from 2833 to 2855, no biggie. I send my rifle info back over to my kestrel last night after the update and now my dope is 9.56 mils at 1000 yards. Everything is exactly the same input as before, and if i do muzzle velocity calibration it goes from 2833 to 3003 to match up with my 8.0 at 1k. I made a new profile to try that and used there Bullet Library and now my bullets BC is .247, before the update it was .289. I then changed it from .247 back to .289 and its still way off. PLEASE HELP
How do I turn off Coriolis and Spin drift?
5700 elite w/link
Found the spin drift. That fixed most of it.
Still looking for Coriolis.
I searched high and low to find info about my issue with the Kestrel 5700 with AB.
I was out hunting for the last 4 days in New Mexico for elk. I'm sitting at the airport as I type this to return home. I had a nice 6x6 bull elk out to 600 yards from me, I pull out my new Kestrel 5700 with AB and get it all set up for a shot. I have my rifle mounted to my tripod, I'm using a muzzleloader, I dial my scope to the 35 MOA's it tells me to dial. I shoot! it hits high over the elk... I reload, by then it is out of killing range for my muzzleloader.
I was not happy. I scratch my head and think what the hell happened. I pull out my phone and use the Kestrel 5700 to link in the atmosphere data, I hit trajectory and I get a totally different dope to dial... almost a whole 3 MOA difference!
I drive to the local range and go and verify which one is right. I use my AB and Trasol. My phone was off by .75 MOA all the way out to 600 yards, while my Kestrel 5700 AB was off over 2 MOA for each range.
What the heck is going on? all the same data is going into the Kestrel as my AB on the phone. even the Muzzle velocity with the temp because of the blackpowder.
What am I doing wrong? My AB on my phone needs just a little tweaking, I think it's the BC personally since I have really good velocity data using my Labradar for every shot out of this rig.
In the end, no elk, major bummer!
I use my Bluetooth for my phone and/or range finder so i can't turn it off per se. I locked the environment and the data port was already off. I put aCheck these menus: Environment - Lock, Bluetooth - off, Data Port-Off, Memory Options/ Auto Store - off, turn them on as needed.
I was at the range when i was prompted for the upgrade and i selected yes without putting much thought into it. I need to read through the firmware release notes. I didn't realize this was such a major update. Thanks for your help so far...Did you check the memory options? Even when off the Kestrel will sample and store environment data at the rate of every 2 seconds if Auto Store is left on, that usually is the issue with battery drain.
I always just us SP. I really dont undertsand why we even use barometric pressure. It seems so flawed.The software you use will usually identify which pressure it want to know. If using a Kestrel, there is no choice, the Kestrel measures and uses station pressure - the atmospheric pressure where you are standing. You do not make entries for that.
Can I use the data cable on a 5700 to feed a Trimble nomad to update FFS?
How do I turn off Coriolis and Spin drift?
5700 elite w/link
From the Applied Ballistic web site: http://appliedballisticsllc.com/support/online-user-guides/kestrel-link-ballistics-online-guide/
8. Ballistic Calibration – Sometimes it’s not possible to accurately determine all the variables required to calculate an exact ballistic solution. As a result, the Point Of Impact (POI) predicted by the program can be a little different from where the actual bullet hits in the real world. One of the more powerful features of the Kestrel Device is the Drop Scale Factor (DSF). A user can calibrate the program based on real world observed drop data at range by inputting pairs of observed range/drop data. This is also how you correct for scope turret errors. While it may seem simple, behind the scenes complex calculations are doing more than just adjusting muzzle velocity. The trajectory is being trued. DSF is only available on the K5700 Elite Model.
From the Applied Ballistic web site: http://appliedballisticsllc.com/support/online-user-guides/kestrel-link-ballistics-online-guide/
8. Ballistic Calibration – Sometimes it’s not possible to accurately determine all the variables required to calculate an exact ballistic solution. As a result, the Point Of Impact (POI) predicted by the program can be a little different from where the actual bullet hits in the real world. One of the more powerful features of the Kestrel Device is the Drop Scale Factor (DSF). A user can calibrate the program based on real world observed drop data at range by inputting pairs of observed range/drop data. This is also how you correct for scope turret errors. While it may seem simple, behind the scenes complex calculations are doing more than just adjusting muzzle velocity. The trajectory is being trued. DSF is only available on the K5700 Elite Model.