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I’ve got high hopes for the Steiner. I think for what everyone else has to offer they’re a step back in regards to reticle options in a world where people like options. Though what they have is nice.
Hey Ilya, would you happen to have any perspective on the Burris XTR-II?
Well, like I said earlier I am new to the forum, I'm currently attending college so money is not something I am made of. I see excellent deals on the XTR-II here on the forum and I am very close to making a purchase. I really only care about one thing in a scope and that is the accuracy of the elevation erector system. Every review I see on the Burris seems more like a sponsorship of the product and not a truthful review. Would you have any information that you believe I might find useful? I don't commonly get to chat with someone with as diverse a background in optics and could really use some advice, I feel a bit drowned in information.
Thank you for all the information Ilya. I will be using it for a 800-1200yd rifle. Sorry for hijacking your thread!
Ilya - I have an ATACR 7-35 Mil-C that you could borrow for a few weeks if NF does not come through. Not the XT you were looking for but probably better than not including it in the test altogether.
i thought i hit send (dumb ass forgot again).
i can send a SB 5-45 T3 ret for a few weeks as well, if the dates work well.
Really interested in how the S&B 5-45 stacks up to the S&B 3-27x.
I’m getting an ELR build soon and thinking of getting ride of my 3-27x for a 5-45x
Great job.Update:
It looks like there were issues with my web hosting provider, so I parted ways with them and switched to a different one. Apparently, a bunch of people have not been able to send me e-mails or, sometimes, receive them. That is now all behind me, so at least that is resolved.
56mm scopes:
TT525P with Gen 3 XR is here courtesy of Tangent Theta
Minox ZP5 is enroute (shipped already, thanks Bill)
Kahles K525 is enroute (shipped already, thanks 5RWill)
Leupold Mark 5 7-35x56 is here courtesy of Leupold
S&B PMII 5-25x56 is here courtesy of S&B
ZCO 5-27x56 should be here soon, I'll check with them
M7Xi is supposed to be enroute courtesy of Steiner USA
Nightforce ATACR situation is not yet clear. There was an e-mail issue there. It should now be resolved. I explained to them what I am looking to do, so they can either participate or not. That is entirely up to them. No hard feelings either way.
50mm scopes:
TT315M with Gen2XR is here
ZCO 4-20x50 is available to me since Covertnoob lives around here
Vortex AMG 6-24x50 is here
Burris XTR III 3.3-18x50 is supposed to be enroute courtesy of Burris
Historically, when I do these tests, I first mount the scopes on my rifles one by one and spend a fair amount of time shooting them, checking tracking under recoil, etc. Then, I mount them on my tripod fixture and start looking at the optics more carefully. Then, if something interesting pops up, I take them to work and use the collimator to look at things.
This time around, things are a little different and I will start with the optical evaluation. In order to speed things up, rather than spend a ton of time on a long write-up, I will look to make a few videos as I go along and throw them up on YouTube and Gunstreamer as I go along. Please subscribe to my channel at either place and if something is not clear or needs further explanation, ask either there or in this thread or via my website. I will start a page on my website where all of the data, video links and things like that are aggregated.
I will try to do the optical eval as quickly as I can, so that I can return the scopes that I borrowed from private individuals to them. Then, I will spend some more time and effort on the scopes that the manufacturers loaned to me, since I have a little more time flexibility there.
Thanks
ILya
Great job.
Counting down for the article.
Can I say the list of the scopes you included in your test are pretty much the latest and the high end models from each brand?
You included a Leupold Mk5. How about a Mk8 with the new turrets?
Really hoping you can get a Kahles 525i in there as well.
There will be. Reference Ilya’s update in post #54
Interested into seeing how the quigley ford stacks up against these scopes....
Can’t wait to see this article. @koshkin seems to have the most valid opinions on scopes.
That sorta depends on where you shoot. Around here the chance of being able to go above 20x on a distant target is very slim, so high magnification for longer distances has very limited use.
ILya
K525i courtesy of 5RWill is scheduled to be delivered on Monday (tomorrow).
Of the scopes mentioned in post #54 everything is pretty much worked out except for the ATACR, M7Xi and XTR III.
With M7Xi and XTR III, I was told that they have been shipped, but I do not have a tracking number and they are not here yet.
Nightforce stopped replying to my e-mails and now that I have changed my hosting provider I am pretty certain it is not an e-mail issue. Maybe they are travelling. I do not know.
The whole business of chasing after the manufacturers is kinda beginning to annoy me though.
One of the forum members offered to loan me his ATACR, so if I do not hear back from Nightforce by Wednesday or so, I'll borow his scope.
ILya
If Nightforce get back in touch what are the chances of getting a new NX8?
Really anticipating this review, I'm hanging out until the end of the year to buy a new scope and hold your opinion in very high regards.
Too bad you're not closer to the beach...
Why? I am about eight miles from the beach.
ILya
I have a feeling he was thinking you could compare color contrast using bikini material...
There goes 25 min of my day. Cant wait to watch it.
Breaking Kahles fans hearts everywhere....