Rifle Scopes New Meopta Scope - Optika6

[army_eod]

Virtually every light transmission number mentioned in marketing literature is absolute useless nonsense and I have not seen a single marketing employee in any of the scope companies I have talked to (well, maybe there is one), who understands what "light transmission" means and how it is measured.

Ignore it.

ILya

Thanks, Ilya. I pretty much agree. Appreciate your input.

 

[army_eod]

Good 'nuff. And now it will be your turn to share your thoughts on image clarity, tracking, etc.!

Looking forward to your AAR.

Well I am far from the optics critic. Mostly if I can get it zeroed and print some decent groups, I am good to go. I have no long ranges to go to yet.

 

[army_eod]

Virtually every light transmission number mentioned in marketing literature is absolute useless nonsense and I have not seen a single marketing employee in any of the scope companies I have talked to (well, maybe there is one), who understands what "light transmission" means and how it is measured.

Ignore it.

ILya

Yep. Marketeers vs Engineers.

 

[Desert Raven]

I interrupt this discussion to once again thank @koshkin for always cutting through the stupid bullshit/marketing hype and just telling us the truth. MUCH appreciated, Ilya! If we ever meet, I am buying you something; a beer, a meal of your choice, or a pass to Disneyland for all of the money and time you have saved me in scope purchases.

 

[koshkin]

I interrupt this discussion to once again thank @koshkin for always cutting through the stupid bullshit/marketing hype and just telling us the truth. MUCH appreciated, Ilya! If we ever meet, I am buying you something; a beer, a meal of your choice, or a pass to Disneyland for all of the money and time you have saved me in scope purchases.

Until you mentioned Disneyland, I was going to ask where you are based...

Either way, you are welcome.

Light transmission number, if properly defined and understood, are useful metrics for engineers. Before we had commonly available high quality anti-reflection coatings, there were also worthwhile for consumers.

In the modern marketplace, getting proper AR coatings procured is trivial and even inexpensive scopes use very good coatings. While there still are some difference here, by and large, there are a few places who specialize on coatings deposition and everyone sends lenses to them.

Meopta happens to be one of the companies that specializes on coatings. The stuff they use on Meostars and all is absolutely world class, so I expect everything they market to have proper coatings.

ILya

 

[delinquent pleb]

I’ve been lurking on this thread trying to get opinions on the 4.5-27 and how they perform in long range target shooting. Compared to the 56mm objective of the 5-30 is there a marked improvement of sight picture and quality between the 5-30 and the 4.5-27?

 

[BCP]

Until you mentioned Disneyland, I was going to ask where you are based...

Either way, you are welcome.

Light transmission number, if properly defined and understood, are useful metrics for engineers. Before we had commonly available high quality anti-reflection coatings, there were also worthwhile for consumers.

In the modern marketplace, getting proper AR coatings procured is trivial and even inexpensive scopes use very good coatings. While there still are some difference here, by and large, there are a few places who specialize on coatings deposition and everyone sends lenses to them.

Meopta happens to be one of the companies that specializes on coatings. The stuff they use on Meostars and all is absolutely world class, so I expect everything they market to have proper coatings.

ILya

My experience with Meopta binos and an old hunting scope has been stellar glass and so-so mechanicals. These scopes look great to me, hopefully the internals hold up.

 

[MudMuppet]

I'll need to do a video on the MRAD 1 reticle in the 3-18x50 as well. I originally designed it with a donut for 3x visibility and a slightly shorter tree, but Meopta decided to stick with essentially the same tree as in the MRAD reticle in the 5-30x56.

The idea with these two reticle was for the MRAD to be a dedicated precision reticle and MRAD1 to be a crossover design. In retrospect, I probably should have added a couple of extra wind holds inside the horseshoe, but that can make the whole thing look too busy, so the jury is kinda still out. Personally, I like it quite a bit in the 3-18x50.

ILya

thanks, I ended up getting the 3-18x50, it’s been great so far. I’m not very up to speed with scopes but I have meostar binos and spotter and have been extremely impressed, Meopta has kept me very happy with what I do

 

[bman940]

We are hoping for a July early Aug. delivery of the Optika5's. I will pass along my impressions once I get my hands on them. As some of you know and ILYA does as well, I will give you my honest impressions. I plan to use this optic on 2 hunting rifles and 1 of the rimfire scopes too. I have had an Optika6 on a pellet rifle and 22LR which worked great because of the parallax that adjusts down to 20 yards. The Optika5 is very well thought out and dialing it in with Strelok Pro is a huge bonus. Meopta does have a discount program for active Mil/LE. Bart

 

[zaprosper]

We are hoping for a July early Aug. delivery of the Optika5's. I will pass along my impressions once I get my hands on them. As some of you know and ILYA does as well, I will give you my honest impressions. I plan to use this optic on 2 hunting rifles and 1 of the rimfire scopes too. I have had an Optika6 on a pellet rifle and 22LR which worked great because of the parallax that adjusts down to 20 yards. The Optika5 is very well thought out and dialing it in with Strelok Pro is a huge bonus. Meopta does have a discount program for active Mil/LE. Bart

Are you able to provide any more details about them at this time? Are they optically similar to the Optika 6, but with different erector and 1 inch tube? I'm most curious about the weight, will it be a good hunting rifle weight.

 

[army_eod]

thanks, I ended up getting the 3-18x50, it’s been great so far. I’m not very up to speed with scopes but I have meostar binos and spotter and have been extremely impressed, Meopta has kept me very happy with what I do

I ordered the MRAD-1 reticle for my scope.

 

[bman940]

Here's the info some of you were asking for on the Optika5 scopes.

 

[jjrgr21]

Just got an email from meopta

Expecting Pricing on the 5's by next week, and looking like July availability

 

[zaprosper]

Just got an email from meopta

Expecting Pricing on the 5's by next week, and looking like July availability

I hope that means they have caught up on the 6's production come July. The Canadian distributor told me they were hoping to have better availability on the high demand models towards the end of summer.
Not going to lie, the Optika 5 as a package is less appealing overall. The price point may still make them appealing though.

 

[joshobean]

I was excited about the Optika 5's until I saw the elevation adjustment. 60 MOA just ain't enough for gas guns which is where I'd be putting mine. I've got a couple of Grendel's that need scoped badly. I do like the weight and magnification adjustment ranges though. Still loving my Optika6 3-18x56 btw.

 

[jjrgr21]

It's a 1" hunting scope
60moa is right in line with everyone else

 

[bman940]

I was excited about the Optika 5's until I saw the elevation adjustment. 60 MOA just ain't enough for gas guns which is where I'd be putting mine. I've got a couple of Grendel's that need scoped badly. I do like the weight and magnification adjustment ranges though. Still loving my Optika6 3-18x56 btw.

If you wanted to make it work you add a 20MOA base and off you go. Personally, for my AR's wearing Meopta's, I would go with the Optika6 and not look back. You already have experience with one so you should be able to see where I'm coming from? I have all my O6's sitting on bolt guns and couldn't be happier.

 

[chevy_man]

Is it just me, or is the reticle choice confusing as all hell?

I want a simple MRAD based reticle. I've seen FFP duplex, FFP illuminated BDC's, SFP duplex based stuff, and all sorts of odd things based on a duplex or BDC. I can't seem to find a simple "these are the reticles in this scope and here's the subtentions". (Not to mention why anyone would want or need a FFP duplex? Or is that lazy website building and confusing model numbers?)

Their website for the US sucks balls and keeps timing out on me. Not sure what that's all about, along with cameraland not having a single picture of the reticle with the scopes they're selling.

 

[srt-4_uk]

Googling "meopta reticles" is much easier than navigating their website

Meopta Sports Optics - European premium optics

www.meoptasportsoptics.com

 

[chevy_man]

Googling "meopta reticles" is much easier than navigating their website

Meopta Sports Optics - European premium optics

www.meoptasportsoptics.com

Odd, that wasn't coming up on my searches but it did work. Thanks!


I'm just disappointed now. Looks like they're heavily based on hunting and MOA stuff. The MRAD ones look ok except all seem to have that horseshoe. I was looking for something to replace a Sig with the Dev-L in 3-18 for my .22 that had decent glass and would pararlax to 10 yards without being chinese. I love the dev-L for that purpose, but I find myself using the wind holds on the center dot quite often that looks like the horseshoe would interfere with (at least at my diminished metal capacity after hearing a timer beep).



I am still wholy confused as hell on just why anyone wants or needs a FFP duplex. Seems like they could cut out a lot of the product line to streamline it with only having a FFP available in subtentioned reticles and SFP only in the basic duplex/dot reticles.

 

[lunatic209]

Here's the info some of you were asking for on the Optika5 scopes.

That 4-20x44 Has gotten my attention, only wished it would come with tall uncapped turrets and zero stop. Would be the perfect scope for my hunting situations.

 

[bman940]

Here is a link to Meopta reticles that should be helpful

https://assets.website-files.com/5b...31b8_2020 Meopta Reticles BOOK online-min.pdf

 

[army_eod]

I just received my 1-6 with z plus rd ffp reticle. Darn thing is built like a tank. Heavy.

 

[bman940]

That 4-20x44 Has gotten my attention, only wished it would come with tall uncapped turrets and zero stop. Would be the perfect scope for my hunting situations.

There may be a possibility to get exactly what you want in this scope. We are discussing with Kenton Industries for a Custom Ballistic Turret option. I have used their turrets on numerous rifles and found them to be right on with the data I provided.

 

[lunatic209]

There may be a possibility to get exactly what you want in this scope. We are discussing with Kenton Industries for a Custom Ballistic Turret option. I have used their turrets on numerous rifles and found them to be right on with the data I provided.

Oh I'm all ears now I hear that, definitely looking forward to it. My rig is a lightweight hunting rig so I try to cut as much weight as I can where I can but still have the ability to shoot out 7-800 yards if needed.

 

[army_eod]

Guys. I am looking for an eye scope cover for the 1-6 model. It measures 1.83 and Butler Creek does not have that size.

Where can I find a eye flip cover to fit????

The obj is not an issue.

 

[Hickswr]

Has anyone experienced bolt handle clearance issues, due to the extremely large power adjust ring, when mounting the scope for minimal obj clearance?

 

[army_eod]

Has anyone experienced bolt handle clearance issues, due to the extremely large power adjust ring, when mounting the scope for minimal obj clearance?

Not bolt handle clearance, but I did have to go with higher rings to clear the scope base.

 

[Deleted member 121493]

Ordered 5-30x56 mil for my .22 anchutz 2013 trainer...

 

[Totoro]

Don't mean to dredge up an older thread and MODS address according.

For those that have spent some time behind any of the power ranges, does the elevation knob RTZ consistently? How about holding zero?

Thanks!

 

[hugeazzbass]

Don't mean to dredge up an older thread and MODS address according.

For those that have spent some time behind any of the power ranges, does the elevation knob RTZ consistently? How about holding zero?

Thanks!

No issues here.
used weekly since april, thousands of rounds.
used on a 22lr bergara b14r.
lots of dialing with no issues.

 

[beretta_man11]

I'm in the same boat as hugeazzbass, I've put thousands of 22 rounds of downrange with my optika6 3-18. It has tracked very well and returns to zero.

 

[delinquent pleb]

Don't mean to dredge up an older thread and MODS address according.

For those that have spent some time behind any of the power ranges, does the elevation knob RTZ consistently? How about holding zero?

Thanks!

MY 5-30 FFP Optika 6 has had not issues with returning to zero being used ranges from 100-900m with my .260Rem. My only complaint is seating the windage dial cap to align precisely with markings on the scope.

 

["Kyltro"]

attached are 3X and 18X...unfortunately you need those fat bars and circle @ 3X.

I have a 5-25 PST G2 that i will bring to the range with me on Monday. will do my best to try and compare....thinking of setting them both at ~ 18X and see what differences there are.

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Awesome image.., so sharp!
Congrats.

 

["Kyltro"]

I spoke with Randy Garrison, Head of Meopta Sports Optics about this scope as well as other items he's unveiling at SHOT. He is VERY excited about this new Optika line

Hi
Do you know where I can find the torque specs for 34mm tube rings?

Thanks.

 

[gr8fuldoug]

Have you called Meopta? 1-800-828-8928

 

["Kyltro"]

Have you called Meopta? 1-800-828-8928

No, but I just sent an email to customer service.
I don't want to squeeze the tube more than necessary.

(The online manual does not have that information).

Thanks.

 

["Kyltro"]

Meopta Response

"Typically your best bet is to see what the manufacturer of the ring recommends but that data isn’t always available either. We suggest between 18 and 23 inch pounds for the ring half screws on all scope tubes.


Erik Muller

Product Specialist
Warehouse Manager
Meopta USA"

My problem continues, because he specifies a torque range and does not define a maximum, as for example "Anonymous Optics" does.

See the picture.

So ... they specify a maximum torque for the tube, less than the maximum torque for the rings. So my query, the maximum torque of the rings is not always correct for the tube.

Does the wrong torque affect the performance and durability of the scope?

Or all this is not important?

Regards.

 

[Chiavettas_Yum!]

With a bottom of the barrel budget brand like Arken, I can absolutely understand why their optics have a maximum torque spec. For a higher quality optic with likely more informed or experienced buyers, it may not be as necessary to hold the user’s hand throughout the process.

 

["Kyltro"]

With a bottom of the barrel budget brand like Arken, I can absolutely understand why their optics have a maximum torque spec. For a higher quality optic with likely more informed or experienced buyers, it may not be as necessary to hold the user’s hand throughout the process.

So it is learning by failure and success?

it seemed correct to me to know this data to do a professional job ..., in conclusion, the maximum torque would be 23 lb/in. according to the Meopta specialist.

Regards.

 

[srt-4_uk]

Except that torque values will be different depending on ring design. ARC rings require significantly more torque than the Arkens pictured.

 

[shellslinger]

Just wanted to post this video of the Optika6 1-6x. Guy always has great productions.

 

[Chiavettas_Yum!]

Just wanted to post this video of the Optika6 1-6x. Guy always has great productions.

Thanks for sharing that video. I’ve never seen him before but it was a very well put together review.

 

[TonyTheTiger]

I was pretty disappointed that the early reports of dim illumination were confirmed in the Supersetca video.

 

[carbonbased]

Just wanted to post this video of the Optika6 1-6x. Guy always has great productions.

That dude puts a TON of work into those reviews. He must work in the film/video industry. To create a scene that “looks” seamless he’s shooting multiple, multiple views of the same scene (diff views of subject, through-scope views, drone footage, close-ups, etc) and then editing them all together, often set to music. That shit is not easy.

Look at this thing!

Parts are funny (beginning & Mr. Hollywood), parts are not. But it’s pretty amazing from a technique viewpoint for some random gun video on YouTube.

Dude must not have kids! Tons of free time.

Back to the Meopta review vid. Even in this case, my YT axiom still holds: as the “polish” of the video goes up, either the usable information goes down and/or the effort required to get to the pearls of wisdom goes up. The Meopta review vid has great info, but is long.

Very rarely I see a short & entertaining video that provides great info. Prob because of some combo of YT favoring longer vids for monetization and garrulous hosts.

Thx for sharing that!

 

[TonyTheTiger]

@carbonbased yeah SuperSetCA has been putting out quality videos for a long time. He took a hiatus for a couple years but nows he's back and he brought the shooting talents of Leograndis in, so it's better than ever.

 

[308pirate]

@carbonbased yeah SuperSetCA has been putting out quality videos for a long time. He took a hiatus for a couple years but nows he's back and he brought the shooting talents of Leograndis in, so it's better than ever.

Max is unbelievable

I wonder what he looks like with a pistol in his hands

 

[TonyTheTiger]

Max is unbelievable

I wonder what he looks like with a pistol in his hands

Pretty good, not quite the level he shoots rifles at but I think he's still a USPSA GM in production or open, can't remember.

 

[308pirate]

Pretty good, not quite the level he shoots rifles at but I think he's still a USPSA GM in production or open, can't remember.

OK, he's legit

 

[TonyTheTiger]

OK, he's legit

Very legit. I don't think he's entered a PCC match that he hasn't dominated.