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Out of the box, the Turbo needs A LOT of work....
MB
Michael, shame on you. Not an entirely objective opinion.
They do, particularly early ones, benefit from some blueprinting but I don’t know about A LOT.
Bolt lift is harder but much of that is spring related.
I messed with 2 of them at my smith’s shop a few weeks back and it took a act of God to open the bolt and dang near the same act to close it..I asked my smith if he was really going to build a gun for someone off those actions and he said hell no not until he figured out how to get the bolt lift tolerable..just sayingMichael, shame on you. Not an entirely objective opinion.
They do, particularly early ones, benefit from some blueprinting but I don’t know about A LOT.
Bolt lift is harder but much of that is spring related.
Based purely on how many in the field winning big time matches I would say....A. Bullshit and B. Based on what you were told.....find a knowledgable gunsmith, he’s not working with a freaking nuclear warhead here.I messed with 2 of them at my smith’s shop a few weeks back and it took a act of God to open the bolt and dang near the same act to close it..I asked my smith if he was really going to build a gun for someone off those actions and he said hell no not until he figured out how to get the bolt lift tolerable..just saying
Based purely on how many in the field winning big time matches I would say....A. Bullshit and B. Based on what you were told.....find a knowledgable gunsmith, he’s not working with a freaking nuclear warhead here.
Tim, you're actually illustrating his point, so its not BS. Also, the "number in the field" isn't actually relative given the actions require a gunsmith to fix out of the box issues, which is actually what we're discussing here. And don't forget, there are only two manufacturers playing in an incredibly confined market, so comparatively, the "numbers" are really small.
Lastly, he stated he felt them for himself and simply asked a question, which was answered by the gunsmith in the room, whom you have no idea of knowing who he is....so he very well could be one of the "knowledgeable gunsmiths" you're referring to. I certainly know what a number of knowledgable gunsmiths think about the Turbos....
MB
At the risk of sounding pesky, he said HIS gunsmith in HIS shop had to figure it out.Tim, you're actually illustrating his point, so its not BS. Also, the "number in the field" isn't actually relative given the actions require a gunsmith to fix out of the box issues, which is actually what we're discussing here. And don't forget, there are only two manufacturers playing in an incredibly confined market, so comparatively, the "numbers" are really small.
Lastly, he stated he felt them for himself and simply asked a question, which was answered by the gunsmith in the room, whom you have no idea of knowing who he is....so he very well could be one of the "knowledgeable gunsmiths" you're referring to. I certainly know what a number of knowledgable gunsmiths think about the Turbos....
MB
At the risk of sounding pesky, he said HIS gunsmith in HIS shop had to figure it out.
This is well known and not particularly complicated so if his guy has to “figure” something......he has the wrong guy. Shit, there’s only two areas involved, spring and camming ramp angles, maybe three if you want to throw in polishing a couple surfaces
Hell, I’m no gunsmith and I’ve done a couple.
Hard is a relative term, especially for a guy new to rimfire BR actions. Right out of the box you can lift the relatively short handle with one finger without disturbing the gun in the bags, both with the 3 lug and 2.....right out of the box. I’ve tested them that way.....zero mods.
Lastly the numbers are not really that small compounding the accumulated years guys have been using them, and there are a fair number out.
my point is, and I assume he’s talking D’iorio, they’re in the field and winning big, 2 &3 luggers.
Dont know about all this .But called vudoo this am and got a audio message about moving. I just wanted to know when my rifle would be done?
Tim, you still don't know who "his" gunsmith is and I gotta ask, how do you refer to "your" gunsmith in the course of conversation? Do you simply say, "I asked some guy in the room that I believe to be a gunsmith?" You're really reaching here to defend something that has no defensible space....all for the sake of what? To be the smartest guy on the internet?
The statement was made that the bolt lift is horrible (paraphrasing) and I happen to know based on my own experience that the bolt lift is horrible, regardless of what anyone's self rationalization is to make it ok that the bolt lift is horrible. You've also confirmed through various statements that the bolt lift is horrible, so saying it has to be looked at by a "knowledgable gunsmith" changes nothing. The "number" winning matches changes nothing. Who has polished this or that changes nothing....the bolt lift is still horrible. That's the point that was made and arguing it is a waste of time.
MB
the single reason I referred to mine is as a reference, that does not use them currently, i.e. don’t really have a horse in the race, other than to be factual.
They are not horrible...not ideal...but.
Yours, quite nice. In the scheme of things this is how important? Not very.
And I do shot a 10X-3 lug which is essentially the same.
That’s pretty much what he said he had to do to it..sorry to ruin your day..oh trust me he knows his way around rimfire rifles.I just don’t know why someone spends a $1000 or so on something that needs to be worked on hell that’s like buying a new vehicle and having to work on the engine right off the bat so you can drive it.At the risk of sounding pesky, he said HIS gunsmith in HIS shop had to figure it out.
This is well known and not particularly complicated so if his guy has to “figure” something......he has the wrong guy. Shit, there’s only two areas involved, spring and camming ramp angles, maybe three if you want to throw in polishing a couple surfaces
Hell, I’m no gunsmith and I’ve done a couple.
Hard is a relative term, especially for a guy new to rimfire BR actions. Right out of the box you can lift the relatively short handle with one finger without disturbing the gun in the bags, both with the 3 lug and 2.....right out of the box. I’ve tested them that way.....zero mods.
Lastly the numbers are not really that small compounding the accumulated years guys have been using them, and there are a fair number out.
my point is, and I assume he’s talking D’iorio, they’re in the field and winning big, 2 &3 luggers.
AND, you pretty much know who I have had as my primary who will only work with 2500’s last few years, because historically, the single solitary action requiring nothing., why not, but there is always gonna be the PAS-SAP bullshit.
That’s pretty much what he said he had to do to it..sorry to ruin your day..oh trust me he knows his way around rimfire rifles.I just don’t know why someone spends a $1000 or so on something that needs to be worked on hell that’s like buying a new vehicle and having to work on the engine right off the bat so you can drive it.
I ordered a BoreTech rod guide from VGW when I placed the order for the V-22S action. Works fine in my V-22 repeaters, and with a simple switch of the screw location, it also works great in the V-22S.Anyone that as a new V22S have a bore guide? If so where did you get it and what is the model number?
My V22 guide does not work and none of my other 22 rod guides for various guide work.
They are a pipe dream at this point to get into the public handsHas anyone tried the Cutting Edge high bc 22lr Bullets? Seems they could be a good fit for the vudoo s for long range.
Pro-X.Mike:
Their is a picture of you shooting a V22s at Ivans. What is the tuner you are using and what barrel?
New member here: Gilbert from Canada.
Been shooting informally but seriously rimfire BR for some years, mainly Anschutz ( 54.30 and 1411 ) and, after a few communications with Mike Bush, I just ordered a V22S barrelled action. I am very excited and eager to see how it shoots
That's my Factory Hot Rod with a Muller barrel.Mike what barrel were you testing at Ivan's?
UPS dropped the PQP Precision one-piece rest off here a few days ago. I'm so ready for some decent weather & conditions so I can get out with the V-22S & new rest! Also need to get a set of taller rings I have moved over onto this rifle. Had to make a shorter return stop for the PQP, as the one supplied with it was a bit more than .250" too tall, so the bbl was resting on the top of the stop due to the very shallow depth of the Kestros' forend. Could've just shortened the supplied stop, but had a short piece of 7/8" 6061 T6 rod lying right there, so spent a few minutes making a new stop,
Just got email from Jill P .Said my rifle would be done as quoted Jan 11 .
Mike B Congratulations on the new move. That Factory Hot Rod of yours is a good looking rifle. Lets see some additional targets shot outdoors by you at 50 and 100yds. That rifle looks like something I would like to try for 100yd benchrest. Have to wait on the wife's approval before ordering.CONGRATULATIONS! Mine was also due Jan11. No email yet.....
Mike B Congratulations on the new move. That Factory Hot Rod of yours is a good looking rifle. Lets see some additional targets shot outdoors by you at 50 and 100yds. That rifle looks like something I would like to try for 100yd benchrest. Have to wait on the wife's approval before ordering.
Really hoping Vudoo will make this into a repeater for PRS 22. I would be all over that.
What is wrong with the current repeater they offer w/ regards to PRS 22?
Nothing "wrong" with it at all, but all things being equal, many people prefer and are looking forward to a 60* bolt lift version of the V22 repeater.
I thought MB said that there was no plans for this as of now. Maybe I misunderstood.
Gjmen22
Mike B Look at pictures of you at Ivans--check the target you posted with the others pics. Note locate bull #2 then check verticle shots down. All x's!!! Tip when you see this pattern, changing your shooting sequence to vertical 2,7,12,17 & 22 then move over and shoot verticle up 23,18,13,8,3 may give you better results.That's my Factory Hot Rod with a Muller barrel.
MB
I believe I heard Mike state in a video to use this platform to express what we would like to see. It nice to see the interest in the 60 degree repeater. I think the response will be overwhelming if they are able to release such an action.I'm hoping for this also!
Can you PM a video to me?Anyone other than me having a bit of a problem ejecting spend shells?
Mine extract then lie in the action for me to pick out.